RE: PH2: Norton To Take On 2012 TT

RE: PH2: Norton To Take On 2012 TT

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urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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3doorPete said:
They'll be nowhere, but great news all the same. Love the brand.
Same old story, excellent engineering leads to nothing....................I really rate the rotary engined bikes, particularly the sight of black bloke/black bike at supernatural speed on the straight bits, well done brand Norton, even if it comes to nothing again, 150+bhp at 9800 rpm, good stuffthumbup

saxxmann

3 posts

154 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Its a great thought that Norton could compete in the TT and Moto GP, but lets get real. Honda and Kawasaki blew up engines this year at the TT, chassis technology is crucial with Moto GP and telemetry is used on engines and chassis, with Ducati struggling to remain competitive after winning recent world titles - who's kidding who ? Why dont they just make a modern road bike like Triumph did, and get back in the game ? The last TT fiasco was embarassing and a repeat would be a disaster.

Saxx

Frik

13,542 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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They do seem to be going about things a strange way. Milking the heritage and producing pretty things without any actual engineering heritage to back things up. Triumph probably took longer than they should have done to get to where they are today, but it's still a good example of building the brand and the product in a sensible fashion from a production and an actually-making-money point of view.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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Frik said:
They do seem to be going about things a strange way. Milking the heritage and producing pretty things without any actual engineering heritage to back things up. Triumph probably took longer than they should have done to get to where they are today, but it's still a good example of building the brand and the product in a sensible fashion from a production and an actually-making-money point of view.
After such a long period and many owners?? Norton has no links with its glorious past, just a commerical latch now to a once excellent name. I seem to remember the Norton name being fought over as per Lotus/LotusF1 etc just a few weeks ago. Cheap hits on history "they" had little or nothing to do with.

RTH

1,057 posts

212 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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What is known about the chap that owns the Norton brand?
Is he very well financed? Does he have the resources to mount a credible racing campaign?
Are the chassis making designers/constructers sub-contractor capable of producing a race winning motor cycle ?
Who is designing and manufacturing and developing the racing engine for the bike? Have they done this sort of thing before? Presumably at this level you need the experience and depth of manufacturing ability of a Cosworth or similar in the bike world. Does that currently exist outside of Japan any more?

We have in recent years got quite used to a Russian or middle eastern massively wealthy person buying an ailing football club and having the ability to spend literally hundreds of millions of pounds in transfers, wages and stadiums and quickly get to the top level.

Done really just for vanity, not as a profitable business. The price of one average premier player could probaly get you on to the TT podium.
Has this chap realitically got the money to make this project a success ? Who is he, what is his background ?

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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RTH said:
What is known about the chap that owns the Norton brand?
Is he very well financed? Does he have the resources to mount a credible racing campaign?
etc....

Has this chap realitically got the money to make this project a success ? Who is he, what is his background ?
Some info here : http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/300/7915/Motorcycle-...

RTH

1,057 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Thanks, I was rather hoping it might have been a rather more complete operation.
Let us hope he can surprise us all.

xspencex

1,534 posts

236 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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I can see what he's trying to do, the racing will be his marketing tool, success at the TT will hopefully build yet more interest in the Norton product. . .but he does bikes production ready to go, that side of things is probably more important. Ofcourse at the TT there's no guarantee of success especially if its a box of new shiney un-tested bits and bobs no matter how good it sounds.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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sprinter1050 said:
Thanks for bringing the article in to play, really hope he succeeds, hard work and enthusiasm should deserve reward, Good luck and skill Mr Garner.