RE: PH2 ridden: Suzuki GSX-R750

[Chilli]

obscene said:

I tried one a few months ago and was left wanting a little more power. I think the Fireblade I tested the week before ruined me. I can imagine you could just about thrash a 750 on the road still, or at least use it unlike a 1000. Good bike though.

Mate, whilst I usually agree with you, I don't here. I disagree that you can use the 750 to it's full potential on the road, I doubt you/we could use 100 percent of a 600. If you're in the right gear ie the 2 third of the rev range then the 750 Will be more than enough to get you banned For life!

I've had a 600, 750, and a 1000 and you can't use any of them with menace on the road. But the 750 is silly fast on the road, and won't try and kill you on the track, whereascthe 1000, you have to be that much more careful/skilled.

[podman]

3doorPete said:

podman said:

I havent checked but I think you'll find they are pretty much in the same ball park cost wise..

Weight wise, their isnt much in it for the 750 or the 1000...

Ive had all manner of GSXR's from the original 1985 model to my most recent model, a K7 1000 in 2007 to 2009...

Ive loved all of them, no doubt the 750 is the purists choice, so much so I bagged myself what I consider to be the real bargain of the family, a 750 SRAD, still great handling with a claimed 135HP from around £1500 for something decent.

Please let me know if you ever consider selling your SRAD

..that I will Pete...as I havent managed to even do 1 mile on it yet, it may be some wait..

[3doorPete]

podman said:

3doorPete said:

podman said:

I havent checked but I think you'll find they are pretty much in the same ball park cost wise..

Weight wise, their isnt much in it for the 750 or the 1000...

Ive had all manner of GSXR's from the original 1985 model to my most recent model, a K7 1000 in 2007 to 2009...

Ive loved all of them, no doubt the 750 is the purists choice, so much so I bagged myself what I consider to be the real bargain of the family, a 750 SRAD, still great handling with a claimed 135HP from around £1500 for something decent.

Please let me know if you ever consider selling your SRAD

..that I will Pete...as I havent managed to even do 1 mile on it yet, it may be some wait..

My kind of garage queen!

[PaulMoor]

JumpinJack said:

But not as cool as ghost rider... who rides a GSXR

Ghost rider might be cool to us, but an Italian bike is cool to much more important people (those who are young and female )

[Pesty]

trevkx125 said:

I have had my SRAD 750 for years, still love it!

What good taste you have sir




Wish I still had her.

[obscene]

Chilli said:

obscene said:

I tried one a few months ago and was left wanting a little more power. I think the Fireblade I tested the week before ruined me. I can imagine you could just about thrash a 750 on the road still, or at least use it unlike a 1000. Good bike though.

Mate, whilst I usually agree with you, I don't here. I disagree that you can use the 750 to it's full potential on the road, I doubt you/we could use 100 percent of a 600. If you're in the right gear ie the 2 third of the rev range then the 750 Will be more than enough to get you banned For life!

I've had a 600, 750, and a 1000 and you can't use any of them with menace on the road. But the 750 is silly fast on the road, and won't try and kill you on the track, whereascthe 1000, you have to be that much more careful/skilled.

Maybe thrash is the wrong word. You can use all of the rev range every now and then without getting into serious trouble (1000cc would be jail by the time you're in 2nd after a redline). That said, I can't remember how the gearing was on the 750 but it looks to be like the wisest decision if you don't want a 1000 for the sake of your licence.

Having a Hornet as my daily bike it's probably geared a bit lower than the latest 600 sportsbike is in terms of how thrashing about goes. How fast does a 600 sports go in 1st gear?

[big_rob_sydney]

I've never understood this, so maybe its me.

I like the idea of stupidly powerful bikes, so the 750 is a bit yesterdays news. You can get the bm, or the zx, and just ride it around a gear or two higher, still plenty quick, but you can ride it at less than 10/10ths, and enjoy the more relaxed ride from being a gear or two higher.

And then when the mood takes you (eg at a ride day), you can really lean on it. Best of both worlds.

[trickywoo]

obscene said:

That said, I can't remember how the gearing was on the 750

A K4 is good for an indicated 74 mph in first.

Red line in 3rd is well into three figures.

[Steve Evil]

big_rob_sydney said:

I've never understood this, so maybe its me.

I like the idea of stupidly powerful bikes, so the 750 is a bit yesterdays news. You can get the bm, or the zx, and just ride it around a gear or two higher, still plenty quick, but you can ride it at less than 10/10ths, and enjoy the more relaxed ride from being a gear or two higher.

And then when the mood takes you (eg at a ride day), you can really lean on it. Best of both worlds.

I can understand where you're coming from, but owning the BM, the chances I get to pin the throttle on it for more than a second or two are seriously few and far between. The road simply disappears too fast and even on track you've gobbled up a straight before you know it and are hard on the brakes.

Compare that to a 600 or 750 which you can be a bit more of a hooligan on, pinning the throttle is more of a regular occurrence. I'd liken it to owning the fastest firing gun in the world, and a regular AK-47, the number of bullets is your stretch of road and you've only got 30, with your fastest gun, you'd spray through those in an instant and not get much in the way of satisfaction from it. With the AK, you'd get more time to enjoy it, the sensation lasts that much longer, the sound drags out that bit longer...

Whilst you can just ride the thing a gear or so higher, it's not the same and it's certainly not why you bought it.

[garypotter]

(.....but only because I could buy some black Dainese leathers and a black Arai and pretend that I am cool.)
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I have the Black daineses leathers and the black arai and I do look cool on my purple/silver vespa!!

[garypotter]

big_rob_sydney said:

I've never understood this, so maybe its me.

I like the idea of stupidly powerful bikes, so the 750 is a bit yesterdays news. You can get the bm, or the zx, and just ride it around a gear or two higher, still plenty quick, but you can ride it at less than 10/10ths, and enjoy the more relaxed ride from being a gear or two higher.

And then when the mood takes you (eg at a ride day), you can really lean on it. Best of both worlds.

"Ride it a gear or 2 higher" reminds me of riding my 1st bike - a RG125 spend all the time changing gear

[Froomee]

One of my three bikes (Lucky strike) and my friends K5 before he sold it both great bikes.................................

[btdk5]

garypotter said:

(.....but only because I could buy some black Dainese leathers and a black Arai and pretend that I am cool.)

I have the Black daineses leathers and the black arai and I do look cool on my purple/silver vespa!!

Full leathers on a scooter. It's a good look.

[PaulMoor]

btdk5 said:

Full leathers on a scooter. It's a good look.

Sidi race boots to?

I do see the odd kid on a scooter dressed like that. Always makes me think "they may be riding round like a chav but at least there parants care".

[big_rob_sydney]

Steve Evil said:

I can understand where you're coming from, but owning the BM, the chances I get to pin the throttle on it for more than a second or two are seriously few and far between. The road simply disappears too fast and even on track you've gobbled up a straight before you know it and are hard on the brakes.

Compare that to a 600 or 750 which you can be a bit more of a hooligan on, pinning the throttle is more of a regular occurrence. I'd liken it to owning the fastest firing gun in the world, and a regular AK-47, the number of bullets is your stretch of road and you've only got 30, with your fastest gun, you'd spray through those in an instant and not get much in the way of satisfaction from it. With the AK, you'd get more time to enjoy it, the sensation lasts that much longer, the sound drags out that bit longer...

Whilst you can just ride the thing a gear or so higher, it's not the same and it's certainly not why you bought it.

I guess we just have a different view. I dont consider keeping a bike pinned for X seconds the definition of a good ride. If that was the case, I'd maybe buy a much smaller capacity bike eg maybe something like an rgv250, and enjoy the additional sensory inputs like the smell of two stroke.

[ellisd82]

trevkx125 said:

I have had my SRAD 750 for years, still love it!

That is the colour scheme I like on the SRAD. Would sell my bike for something like that. Nice bike!

[hughcam]

Well I dont agree that the 750 is super fantastic. A 1000 and knowing when to use a throttle is a lot better in my eye.

[redtwin]

Steve Evil said:

I can understand where you're coming from, but owning the BM, the chances I get to pin the throttle on it for more than a second or two are seriously few and far between. The road simply disappears too fast and even on track you've gobbled up a straight before you know it and are hard on the brakes.

So the thrill is from pinning the throttle, not from the resultant speed which your BMW would more than achieve.

Fit a throttle stop allowing 30% less rotation to the BMW and pin the throttle more often.

I am a genius.

[final_edition]

Here's Jon on dad's 851

[CBR JGWRR]

redtwin said:

Steve Evil said:

I can understand where you're coming from, but owning the BM, the chances I get to pin the throttle on it for more than a second or two are seriously few and far between. The road simply disappears too fast and even on track you've gobbled up a straight before you know it and are hard on the brakes.

So the thrill is from pinning the throttle, not from the resultant speed which your BMW would more than achieve.

Fit a throttle stop allowing 30% less rotation to the BMW and pin the throttle more often.

I am a genius.

Small problem - there are bikes where pinned throttle is normal. And people can't wait to get off them...