BMW S1000RR Recall
Discussion
rev-erend said:
3doorPete said:
...and there have been lots of different model Blades and R1's.
I lurk on the 7R forum and it can be carnage over small points. A current row is over whether you can still call a 7RR a proper 7RR if someone has replaced the flat side carbs for CVs.
I'm on that one too .. under a different name but to be honest not much happens over there.I lurk on the 7R forum and it can be carnage over small points. A current row is over whether you can still call a 7RR a proper 7RR if someone has replaced the flat side carbs for CVs.
LoonR1 said:
If you read my views on this, I've had cars and bikes all subject to recalls. I have no problem with recalls, I have no problem with the manufacturer announcing them to the world, I have no problem with the work they do on them.
I do have a problem with the overreaction displayed by people nowadays. There is clear evidence of this on this thread, let alone the S1000RR forum, with people discounting the bike from their shopping lists, becasue it's been the subject of a recall.
How many of the panickers have got the 2012 model anyway? I'll guess not that many.
I must admit that I typed out a reply to your edit earlier, but deleted it because I couldn't be arsed with an argument. To me it read as though you were having a dig at people like me (and Pete, amongst others), that had offered opinion to the fella that asked what would happen.I do have a problem with the overreaction displayed by people nowadays. There is clear evidence of this on this thread, let alone the S1000RR forum, with people discounting the bike from their shopping lists, becasue it's been the subject of a recall.
How many of the panickers have got the 2012 model anyway? I'll guess not that many.
I agree though, that people who discount a bike based on this alone are being silly. Let BMW sort the issue and judge them on how they do that.
LoonR1 said:
If you read my views on this, I've had cars and bikes all subject to recalls. I have no problem with recalls, I have no problem with the manufacturer announcing them to the world, I have no problem with the work they do on them.
I do have a problem with the overreaction displayed by people nowadays. There is clear evidence of this on this thread, let alone the S1000RR forum, with people discounting the bike from their shopping lists, becasue it's been the subject of a recall.
How many of the panickers have got the 2012 model anyway? I'll guess not that many.
Agreed - but people have a genuine concern. These are fearful owners - don't forget these are people who are too scared to buy a bike without electronic aids I do have a problem with the overreaction displayed by people nowadays. There is clear evidence of this on this thread, let alone the S1000RR forum, with people discounting the bike from their shopping lists, becasue it's been the subject of a recall.
How many of the panickers have got the 2012 model anyway? I'll guess not that many.
I don't really see much evidence of over-reaction on this thread beyond a couple of posts with most of these sort of comments coming from people who will never buy one anyway and are looking for extra justification (like me with Ducatis
).3doorPete said:
Agreed - but people have a genuine concern. These are fearful owners - don't forget these are people who are too scared to buy a bike without electronic aids
I don't really see much evidence of over-reaction on this thread beyond a couple of posts with most of these sort of comments coming from people who will never buy one anyway and are looking for extra justification (like me with Ducatis ).
Oi, I've got one I don't really see much evidence of over-reaction on this thread beyond a couple of posts with most of these sort of comments coming from people who will never buy one anyway and are looking for extra justification (like me with Ducatis
).
LoonR1 said:
3doorPete said:
Agreed - but people have a genuine concern. These are fearful owners - don't forget these are people who are too scared to buy a bike without electronic aids
I don't really see much evidence of over-reaction on this thread beyond a couple of posts with most of these sort of comments coming from people who will never buy one anyway and are looking for extra justification (like me with Ducatis ).
Oi, I've got one I don't really see much evidence of over-reaction on this thread beyond a couple of posts with most of these sort of comments coming from people who will never buy one anyway and are looking for extra justification (like me with Ducatis
).
3doorPete said:
Yes - but you keep it in slick mode as you're not a panicky sheep.
I am when it wheelies, even though it can't really do much. Strangely I'm not arsed when the R1 does it on track at much greater speeds and until recently with a broken steering damper.I think I'm a bit daft.
Just dropped mine off for 1st service and been informed of recall, but that parts are on backorder for 3 weeks. I'm due to have bike shipped to Motorland Aragon next Friday for 3-day long track-day. BMW Park Lane say they don't advise riding it. Don't know what to do. Called BMW Customer Service and they don't even know about the recall yet. Anyone got any experience of getting the bike fixed quicker than 3 weeks?
chrono said:
Just dropped mine off for 1st service and been informed of recall, but that parts are on backorder for 3 weeks. I'm due to have bike shipped to Motorland Aragon next Friday for 3-day long track-day. BMW Park Lane say they don't advise riding it. Don't know what to do. Called BMW Customer Service and they don't even know about the recall yet. Anyone got any experience of getting the bike fixed quicker than 3 weeks?
The parts are on back order and no-one will have the new part number in stock. So unfortunately i'm going to have to say you have very very little chance.UnluckyTimmeh said:
chrono said:
Just dropped mine off for 1st service and been informed of recall, but that parts are on backorder for 3 weeks. I'm due to have bike shipped to Motorland Aragon next Friday for 3-day long track-day. BMW Park Lane say they don't advise riding it. Don't know what to do. Called BMW Customer Service and they don't even know about the recall yet. Anyone got any experience of getting the bike fixed quicker than 3 weeks?
The parts are on back order and no-one will have the new part number in stock. So unfortunately i'm going to have to say you have very very little chance.
looking a bit s
t for the BMW S1000RR guys going to the TT...they have been quoted 3-4 weeks (might be lucky)fingers crossed for them
Yazza54 said:
Whilst I agree that there's nothing wrong with recalls as such it's a large fk up to be sending a load of bikes onto the market with poorly torqued rods. I mean you hear a lot of things going on but that's a big and dangerous fk up.
But it wasn't planned was it. A recall for a defect is by definition to rectify a problem. Some problems will be worse than others and that's just the way it is. The big problems grab headlines the lesser ones don't. At this point there are probably 1000s of bikes and cars all under recall for all sorts of reasons. k up to be sending a load of bikes onto the market with poorly torqued rods. I mean you hear a lot of things going on but that's a big and dangerous fk up. Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:03
LoonR1 said:
Yazza54 said:
Whilst I agree that there's nothing wrong with recalls as such it's a large fk up to be sending a load of bikes onto the market with poorly torqued rods. I mean you hear a lot of things going on but that's a big and dangerous fk up.
But it wasn't planned was it. A recall for a defect is by definition to rectify a problem. Some problems will be worse than others and that's just the way it is. The big problems grab headlines the lesser ones don't. At this point there are probably 1000s of bikes and cars all under recall for all sorts of reasons. k up to be sending a load of bikes onto the market with poorly torqued rods. I mean you hear a lot of things going on but that's a big and dangerous fk up. Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:03
As for them recalling it ASAP, of course they are going to. They know as well as anyone how dangerous it is and they would be for the high jump if anyone got hurt.
That 09 R1 recall was a bad one too with the fork bottoms cracking
It is b
ks though how the bad press lingers and people are put off buying them. Long as the recalls we're done I'd have either...not that I could afford either!! I just don't think failures that critical should be happening in the first place.Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:48
Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:50
According to BMW no-ones been asked to stop riding their bikes but they "wouldn't advise" riding on track ... which is exactly what I was planning on doing. So now I have to decide whether to risk it or not. Rather than miss my trip I'm thinking about going ahead but keeping the revs down. Am I mad?
Yazza54 said:
LoonR1 said:
Yazza54 said:
Whilst I agree that there's nothing wrong with recalls as such it's a large fk up to be sending a load of bikes onto the market with poorly torqued rods. I mean you hear a lot of things going on but that's a big and dangerous fk up.
But it wasn't planned was it. A recall for a defect is by definition to rectify a problem. Some problems will be worse than others and that's just the way it is. The big problems grab headlines the lesser ones don't. At this point there are probably 1000s of bikes and cars all under recall for all sorts of reasons. k up to be sending a load of bikes onto the market with poorly torqued rods. I mean you hear a lot of things going on but that's a big and dangerous fk up. Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:03
As for them recalling it ASAP, of course they are going to. They know as well as anyone how dangerous it is and they would be for the high jump if anyone got hurt.
That 09 R1 recall was a bad one too with the fork bottoms cracking
It is b
ks though how the bad press lingers and people are put off buying them. Long as the recalls we're done I'd have either...not that I could afford either!! I just don't think failures that critical should be happening in the first place.Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:48
Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 27th April 17:50
I'm sure they will very much have learned their lesson. In fairness - if they are genuine about the results of their root cause analysis of the issue, it could have happened to any of their models - from a flat twin to an F800.
The timing is unfortunate with the start of the summer riding season - but what can people do? The problem appears to have started in Jan, it takes a few months to see failures, analyse failures, build up a pattern, work out where the problem is and work out a plan of action.
Edited by 3doorPete on Friday 27th April 18:43
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