RE: PH2: new licencing laws explained...
Discussion
sastanack said:
Things that various people have come up with in conversation that I'm not sure of;
-at L-plate stage, it is possible to get anything and have it restricted down to 125 level? Afraid not, no
-I don't have to hang around the full 2 years on a 125, I can do DAS and go for whatever on turning 24? You could go for your A2 licence now and be restricted to 47hp for two years, if you wanted. Or you could stay on a 125 for a year till you're 24 and then do your DAS
My answers in bold.-at L-plate stage, it is possible to get anything and have it restricted down to 125 level? Afraid not, no
-I don't have to hang around the full 2 years on a 125, I can do DAS and go for whatever on turning 24? You could go for your A2 licence now and be restricted to 47hp for two years, if you wanted. Or you could stay on a 125 for a year till you're 24 and then do your DAS
HTH
srob said:
Slidingpillar said:
What hasn't appeared here is the fact that tricycles are now motor bikes and need a class A licence. I've got one in my shed, 1100 cc, made in 1930, steering wheel and car type controls. A Morgan Super Sports Aero - about 40bhp.
Previously, you could drive such a device on a car licence, so subject to insurance, at 17 was possible.
Now a new driver will need to pass a full motor bike test, and be at least 21.
Although there is a point of view that states motor bike experience should be gained by car drivers, the complication of several tests and a vastly increased age to drive a car with a top speed of 80 (if you are lucky) is silly.
Existing car drivers will gain group A restricted to tricycles so there is no change for them.
Bit late, but any pics of the Morgan?Previously, you could drive such a device on a car licence, so subject to insurance, at 17 was possible.
Now a new driver will need to pass a full motor bike test, and be at least 21.
Although there is a point of view that states motor bike experience should be gained by car drivers, the complication of several tests and a vastly increased age to drive a car with a top speed of 80 (if you are lucky) is silly.
Existing car drivers will gain group A restricted to tricycles so there is no change for them.
I still plan on having one one day, but they're getting a bit pricey now! We were offered (or half offered!) a 1922 GP a few weeks ago but sadly, don't have the room for it. Personally I'd prefer a later Aero anyway; I spent yesterday looking at them and dreaming. There's quite a few for sale at the moment, it seems.
They are not too expensive to build yourself if you are reasonably handy with the spanners but the quick (and usually cheaper) option is to buy someone else's completed one and fix any foibles it has.
Google it for more info.
Confirming my suspicions. Thank you, LiamB!
It's a bit like chinese whispers, whatever they can remember hearing from someone else gets passed on to me
(and when I say 'they', I mean an old school biker who got his licence when you could do whatever you want, and a boy racer who's thinking of doing his - so neither of them know what the current rules are)
It's a bit like chinese whispers, whatever they can remember hearing from someone else gets passed on to me
(and when I say 'they', I mean an old school biker who got his licence when you could do whatever you want, and a boy racer who's thinking of doing his - so neither of them know what the current rules are)
Rubin215 said:
There is a kit car called a Pembleton (based on a Citroen 2CV and usually using a Motto Guzzi engine) that is a dead ringer for a Morgan.
They are not too expensive to build yourself if you are reasonably handy with the spanners but the quick (and usually cheaper) option is to buy someone else's completed one and fix any foibles it has.
Google it for more info.
Yeah there's a few kits like the Lomax, but I must admit I'd not heard of the Pembleton. It is actually a pretty good replica, to be honest though, I'd only want a Morgan. They are not too expensive to build yourself if you are reasonably handy with the spanners but the quick (and usually cheaper) option is to buy someone else's completed one and fix any foibles it has.
Google it for more info.
I've always loved them from the days that we used to go to vintage bike racing and the Morgans race with the big wheeled sidecars. I also love Brooklands, and Morgans were the little terriers of racing, annoying the big old sports cars
Afraid it's a case of space though
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