RE: PH2: Bikers Friend app
Discussion
Prof Prolapse said:
I really don't feel second class because of the number 2...
I would prefer Roman numerals though. Give the place a bit of class.
That's an interesting idea - and well-timed as I'm just in the process of some homepage tweaks. Consider it in the melting pot!I would prefer Roman numerals though. Give the place a bit of class.
Cheers,
Dan
Beanoir said:
oh boo F****** hoo. I'm fed up with hearing the "think bike" nonsense.
When motorcyclists abide to the same road laws as cars then i'll sit up and listen. But for now my feeling on the matter is that if you want to engage in a hobby that is by it's very nature dangerous, then you must accept the risks attached to it.
If motorcycling suddenly became safe, and as a result boring then I guarantee a large number of people riding bikes would probabaly jack it in as the adrenaline buzz had gone.
So what you're telling me someone who RIDES EVERYDAY OF THE YEAR AS A COMMUTER NOT a HOBBIEST that the drunk driver who hit me at 10am (turned so close to in front of me I hit the side of her bumper and fender), was my fault. I'm also assuming that it was perfectly acceptable for her to run only to get caught thanks to a bystander who got her plate number because he's on a bike and knows its dangerous. Well my friend, there are a lot more people dying and getting seriously injured in cars so I guess by your logic they shouldn't have any rights either. As for me for the likelihood of never being able to lift my shoulder over my head and a pelvis that required 3lbs of titanium to put back together I will se $20k out of her insurance. $5k of which will pay for my bike.When motorcyclists abide to the same road laws as cars then i'll sit up and listen. But for now my feeling on the matter is that if you want to engage in a hobby that is by it's very nature dangerous, then you must accept the risks attached to it.
If motorcycling suddenly became safe, and as a result boring then I guarantee a large number of people riding bikes would probabaly jack it in as the adrenaline buzz had gone.
I'd suggest not crossing the street if I ever am medically cleared to get on a bike again... it might be too dangerous.
Dan Trent said:
Fleegle said:
I’m gobsmacked
I can’t actually believe PH are promoting this S H I T by giving it a page.
We were interested enough in the issues raised to have Jon ring Mr Mahoney up and get his side of the story, though he didn't especially enjoy Jon's line of questioning. I can’t actually believe PH are promoting this S H I T by giving it a page.
I think - hope - it was clear that we have some issues with the whole concept at the core of this app and that came across in the piece. I wanted a balanced story though and left it open for everyone to discuss and make their own conclusions, the verdict of which are pretty damned clear it has to be said!
Wouldn't have wanted to wind out of your sails though, it's a newsworthy topic, worthy of reporting and one everyone has the opportunity to register their distaste for if that's the case. And it's not '2' for second class either; topics raised by this are relevant no matter how many wheels you roll on. Indeed, one of my main motivations for putting it on the homepage was to raise some awareness among the wider PH community.
Just my tuppence worth!
Cheers,
Dan
LiamB said:
Pothole said:
LiamB said:
BB is going downhill lately. Lots of bickering and petty arguments.
I don't like it at all.
Shut it you pimply, teenaged tI don't like it at all.
t, Lame!tdog7 said:
Generally I would think that if you are well enough immediatley after an accident to be wondering how much compensation you can claim, you probably shouldn't be entitled to any........(bar repairs to your bike that is)
This whole compensation culture has gone crazy....if you're injuries genuinely lead to you incurring costs, or loss of earnings, then yes you deserve to be reimbursed....but if you had a bruise, and needed to buy some painkillers from boots.....I don't see how some cash makes that better!
well the government has fell for insurers PR and changes are coming that will throw the baby out as wellThis whole compensation culture has gone crazy....if you're injuries genuinely lead to you incurring costs, or loss of earnings, then yes you deserve to be reimbursed....but if you had a bruise, and needed to buy some painkillers from boots.....I don't see how some cash makes that better!
you'll struggle to enforce a claim for injury worth up to £5k (bit more than a bruise) and therefore your associated losses that can easily be calculated (and well felt) including loss of earnings and lots of other things (oh and repairs where you disagree with the insurers who then know you have little / no choice)
it may well put an end to the 'compo culture' (which in a large part was driven by the insurers whose real income of investment return on premiums dried up with the GFC) but you might not like the result
Dan Trent said:
Fleegle said:
I’m gobsmacked
I can’t actually believe PH are promoting this S H I T by giving it a page.
We were interested enough in the issues raised to have Jon ring Mr Mahoney up and get his side of the story, though he didn't especially enjoy Jon's line of questioning. I can’t actually believe PH are promoting this S H I T by giving it a page.
I think - hope - it was clear that we have some issues with the whole concept at the core of this app and that came across in the piece. I wanted a balanced story though and left it open for everyone to discuss and make their own conclusions, the verdict of which are pretty damned clear it has to be said!
Wouldn't have wanted to wind out of your sails though, it's a newsworthy topic, worthy of reporting and one everyone has the opportunity to register their distaste for if that's the case. And it's not '2' for second class either; topics raised by this are relevant no matter how many wheels you roll on. Indeed, one of my main motivations for putting it on the homepage was to raise some awareness among the wider PH community.
Just my tuppence worth!
Cheers,
Dan
[quote=Colin Mahoney the "inventor of Biker's Friend]Very quickly we realised that any injuries over £5,000, the insurers automatically deny liability.
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Well after working in insurance for 20 years, at one point specialising in bike insurance and currently running the Claims Division of one of the larger insurance companies, I can safely say that I have never, ever come across this happening. Nor for that matter would any insurer want to do this, as the MoJ process is doing a good job of cutting out ambulance chasing excessive income streams.
What a tosser and more importantly why has PH2 decided that this app is newsworthy? Advertising revenue?
If you're going to plug something and dress it up as a story, at least make it a balanced story with both sides getting a chance to state their views.
It's launched just at the point at which referral fees are about to be banned and now the solicitors pay a contribution to help a marketing company and they share data.
Piss poor.
What he really means is "When an injury is more serious, the solicitor can drag things out nicely to make sure it falls outside the MoJ process and rack up their normal hourly rate, whilst having a junior paralegal working on the claim. Just the sort of work that makes all your premiums rise unnecessarily."
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Well after working in insurance for 20 years, at one point specialising in bike insurance and currently running the Claims Division of one of the larger insurance companies, I can safely say that I have never, ever come across this happening. Nor for that matter would any insurer want to do this, as the MoJ process is doing a good job of cutting out ambulance chasing excessive income streams.
What a tosser and more importantly why has PH2 decided that this app is newsworthy? Advertising revenue?
If you're going to plug something and dress it up as a story, at least make it a balanced story with both sides getting a chance to state their views.
It's launched just at the point at which referral fees are about to be banned and now the solicitors pay a contribution to help a marketing company and they share data.
Piss poor.
What he really means is "When an injury is more serious, the solicitor can drag things out nicely to make sure it falls outside the MoJ process and rack up their normal hourly rate, whilst having a junior paralegal working on the claim. Just the sort of work that makes all your premiums rise unnecessarily."
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