Any fast bikes wanting to take on supercars?
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fergus said:
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?
7.2 TurboS only came as PDK, and LC is standard. It has become quicker as the motor is now fully bedded in and is bog standard. I heard that there will be a Ruf'd 7.2 TurboS at the event (likely with modified non-VTG turbos) that should run a Veyron close through the quarter mile. Quite a few tuned 1k hp GTRs I suspect which will be fun to see which survive themselves. moanthebairns said:
srob said:
moanthebairns said:
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
to be fair its is a trying to do 200 mph on the M9, especially on a 600. I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!
If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
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spareparts said:
fergus said:
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?
7.2 TurboS only came as PDK, and LC is standard. It has become quicker as the motor is now fully bedded in and is bog standard. I heard that there will be a Ruf'd 7.2 TurboS at the event (likely with modified non-VTG turbos) that should run a Veyron close through the quarter mile. Quite a few tuned 1k hp GTRs I suspect which will be fun to see which survive themselves. srob said:
Exactly!
It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!
If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
No trumpet blowing at all here but if I went through the timing lights at 200mph I would be severely dissapointed. There would be something wrong with the bike.It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!
If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
200mph is easy, on the right machine
Mr Rimmer, you do make me laugh
srob said:
You may be, but give it another couple of hours and there'll be a thread linking to this one on general gassing, then there'll be an invasion of people with Calibras with drain exhausts baosting about how they 'owned' a GSXR1000 or some ste!
LOL joking aside on that new A130 in essex I did a rolling start squirt (60mph) against an R6 in a Jaguar XKR cab it was so funny just floored it traction light was flashing at 70mph! and got away from him when I turned off at the next junction he gave me a huge thumbs up whilst shaking his head...bet he thought silly old git in his Jag they have got some midrange though!App for any impending chav input forthcoming.It was nearly as much fun as mashing scoobys off the lights in the old mans car LOL!
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHnNxMJLfvAsrob said:
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
Lack of space. Not many things do 200mph.The Zedhed said:
No trumpet blowing at all here but if I went through the timing lights at 200mph I would be severely dissapointed. There would be something wrong with the bike.
200mph is easy, on the right machine
Mr Rimmer, you do make me laugh
I don't doubt it, on the right bike!200mph is easy, on the right machine
Mr Rimmer, you do make me laugh
I still don't know anyone who's done it though - and I know a GP winner, an ex wheelie world speed record holder and an ex European stunt champion amongst others. If it was that easy, I'm pretty sure one of those fruitloops woulda done it by now
sprinter1050 said:
spareparts said:
fergus said:
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?
7.2 TurboS only came as PDK, and LC is standard. It has become quicker as the motor is now fully bedded in and is bog standard. I heard that there will be a Ruf'd 7.2 TurboS at the event (likely with modified non-VTG turbos) that should run a Veyron close through the quarter mile. Quite a few tuned 1k hp GTRs I suspect which will be fun to see which survive themselves. spareparts said:
I don't think a 'race prepped bike' would be meaningfully quicker in a straight line over a standard superbike, unless the 'race prepped bike' were actually a dragbike of some kind.
+1. "race prepared" normally refers to circuit racing, where apart from superbikes, most engine tuning is very limited (headgaskets, exhausts, and remapping).A drag bike, or bike built specifically for vmax runs is not "race prepared" (being pedantic)
Some mph figures from my bike. 0-60=1.4seconds, 0-100=2.8 seconds, 0-200=7.6 seconds. The bike has been down the 900meter straight at Snetterton at 203.9mph from a standing start. BSB's on the day were comming off the bend onto the straight at 70-80, the fastest one reaching 177mph. The bike has had the front wheel off the floor at over 220mph with the back tyre spinning out. They are a handfull to ride hard but produce the finest adrenaline for that fix few ever get the chance to experience.
The day looks to be fantastic for those lucky enough to be there. There is always going to be an element of who or what is ultimatly the quickest but there will always be ultimate respect between competitors as they are the only people that know just what is involved.
The day looks to be fantastic for those lucky enough to be there. There is always going to be an element of who or what is ultimatly the quickest but there will always be ultimate respect between competitors as they are the only people that know just what is involved.
bogie said:
I guess this is one of the questions they expect to answer on the day; just how easy is it for average Joe to extract the claimed performance from their vehicle
Good call. This is the exact reason I want to find out. I'm definitely average Joe and never pretended to be anything other. I've not had the opportunity on the road to do a flat balls out start nor even begun so find the limits of my bike nor would I publicly and this is the reason I wanted to go To those that say the standard bikes will let the side down, I'm sorry for having an almost standard bike but I'm sure the cagers will appreciate how fast their tuned cars are against a relatively standard ZZR1400. For me, it's not about winning with the biggest numbers, it's all about a learning opportunity that I would never have on a public road.. don't get me wrong though I will still be trying my damnedest to get the best speeds attainable.
To be honest I'm more worried about getting a bad start and throwing it down the track, there are big risks here despite the excellent approach to safety and mitigation.
mister_ee said:
LoonR1 said:
I'm still running the HP4 in so that's out. One of the S1000RRs would do just as good a job. Thing is I'm not interested in going flat out in a straight line. No real skill needed to do that.
I'm sorry but that is absolute balls, fair enough if you're not interested but to say it takes no skill to get a bike flat out is just plain wrong, I've done RWB at Elvington and getting the last few mph out of a bike is not as simple as it sounds and until you've done it you won't know, it's like saying road racing is a piece of piss cos all you have to do is brake later and go faster round corners than the other guys, sounds easy when you put it like thatComplete and utter waste of time IMO.
There is absolutely no skill at all in pinning a roadbike through the gears in a straight line until you get to the very top end and then it's only about holding on.
LoonR1 said:
No it's not balls. I can twist the throttle on my bike and pin it in 1st, 2nd and 3rd with ease in a straight line, he other gears are not done, as I don't fancy that on the road. I might not wring that extra 2mph at the top end, but so what? If I go on a diet and lose a stone or two, I'll repeat the exercise and find that 2mph.
Complete and utter waste of time IMO.
There is absolutely no skill at all in pinning a roadbike through the gears in a straight line until you get to the very top end and then it's only about holding on.
What about the launch, or would you rely on software? There is a lot of skill in a non LC assisted take off.Complete and utter waste of time IMO.
There is absolutely no skill at all in pinning a roadbike through the gears in a straight line until you get to the very top end and then it's only about holding on.
Go to about 1 minute in this video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=046_1366837297
Chevy Bel Air vs SV650
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=046_1366837297
Chevy Bel Air vs SV650
Gary11 said:
LOL joking aside on that new A130 in essex I did a rolling start squirt (60mph) against an R6 in a Jaguar XKR cab it was so funny just floored it traction light was flashing at 70mph! and got away from him when I turned off at the next junction he gave me a huge thumbs up whilst shaking his head...bet he thought silly old git in his Jag they have got some midrange though!
App for any impending chav input forthcoming.It was nearly as much fun as mashing scoobys off the lights in the old mans car LOL!
Honestly you do sound a tad clueless.App for any impending chav input forthcoming.It was nearly as much fun as mashing scoobys off the lights in the old mans car LOL!
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