I'd kill myself on a bike.
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I grew up next to a farm and i have a proven track record of falling of motorbikes, quads and pushbikes on dirt, in fields, on tracks, once in a cowshed taking a shortcut (i slipped on what you probably think i slipped on and landed in more of it) so i am quite confident that i would probably fall off a proper bike at some point, or more likely drop it in the first few minutes after i had paid for it.
I also love going fast and have a rather loose appreciation of risk so i have never really pushed myself towards a full bike licence but it's probably on the cards in the next couple of years if i stop spending my money on daft holidays and beer.
I am doubtful that i would probably kill myself on a bike.
I also love going fast and have a rather loose appreciation of risk so i have never really pushed myself towards a full bike licence but it's probably on the cards in the next couple of years if i stop spending my money on daft holidays and beer.
I am doubtful that i would probably kill myself on a bike.
Rawwr said:
Horses are just plain mental. Imagine riding an R1 but an R1 that can think for itself and do crazy things on a whim of its own accord. MENTAL.
To bloody right, the only thing less sane than a horse is a horsey girl. But both of them can be great fun in the right environment. My mate crashed when he went to his first ever lesson, him and his mate set off from opposite sides of the cones they had set out in an oval and they ended up racing each other. He slid out when going round the tight section of the bend and then after being berated by the instructors for some considerable time thought he'd probably be too much of a danger to himself and others on one.
He would have a higher possibility of killing himself on a bike and nearly has done mountain biking. I agree though for the vast majority it's a load of BS, mind having said the risks are far higher, I know 3 people who have died on bikes and none in cars.
He would have a higher possibility of killing himself on a bike and nearly has done mountain biking. I agree though for the vast majority it's a load of BS, mind having said the risks are far higher, I know 3 people who have died on bikes and none in cars.
Id go with the real reason is mummy/wife wont let him have one because of their own fears
perceived risk is a strange thing, usually fuelled by media, life experience, and views of people around you when growing up
I know dozens of people that have died in the last 44 years that I've been alive, and only 5 were due to motorcycle accidents (3 of those single vehicle/own fault) ...that leaves a few dozen more that died from "something else"
so logic says the chance that its "something else" will get me in the end
I guess people just repeat dumb things they hear without thinking and the more its repeated by ignorant people the more it becomes a real myth
perceived risk is a strange thing, usually fuelled by media, life experience, and views of people around you when growing up
I know dozens of people that have died in the last 44 years that I've been alive, and only 5 were due to motorcycle accidents (3 of those single vehicle/own fault) ...that leaves a few dozen more that died from "something else"
so logic says the chance that its "something else" will get me in the end
I guess people just repeat dumb things they hear without thinking and the more its repeated by ignorant people the more it becomes a real myth
I'm the other way round...
I get a lovely sensation of speed on a bike (any bike) that is totally absent from any decent car.
In such a car, I tend to get "carried away"... I've had goes in various quickish cars (Integra Type R, Boxter etc etc) and although I love them, I wouldn't own one. I'd end up upside down in a field.
So I don't. I had a 2CV all though my 20's and early 30's which probably enabled me to reach my current age, and currently drive an elderly RAV4 on mud and snow tyres - slow, no grip, leans over and squeals the tyres at the slightest provocation - perfect.
I get a lovely sensation of speed on a bike (any bike) that is totally absent from any decent car.
In such a car, I tend to get "carried away"... I've had goes in various quickish cars (Integra Type R, Boxter etc etc) and although I love them, I wouldn't own one. I'd end up upside down in a field.
So I don't. I had a 2CV all though my 20's and early 30's which probably enabled me to reach my current age, and currently drive an elderly RAV4 on mud and snow tyres - slow, no grip, leans over and squeals the tyres at the slightest provocation - perfect.
about 8 years ago I gave my cbr750 to my mate as I was leaving the country - I visited 8 months later and he hadn't ridden it. said he'd probably kill himself if he rode it.
thing was his wife had died in his arms from a brain hemorrhage, and after the funeral he discovered she was having an affair and wanted him to leave her!
said he'd probably kill himself if he rode the bike. something about riding off a cliff.
made some sense to me at the time.
thing was his wife had died in his arms from a brain hemorrhage, and after the funeral he discovered she was having an affair and wanted him to leave her!
said he'd probably kill himself if he rode the bike. something about riding off a cliff.
made some sense to me at the time.
I think you're all being unfair. Some people don't ride because they object to the higher risk involved. It's a fact you are more likely to be killed or maimed/disabled on a bike than in a car and everybody's risk evaluation is different. If you have a wife/gf and children then you do think differently about risk and are more likely to err on the side of cautiousness and go by car.
Don't forget that (I can't remember the figures) many bikers are killed by other people . . . not themselves and a heavy shunt on the motorway in a car leaves you with a sore neck, on a bike it can leave you without legs.
Just respect other people's risk strategies "I'd kill myself" is just shorthand for "I don't like the risk"
Don't forget that (I can't remember the figures) many bikers are killed by other people . . . not themselves and a heavy shunt on the motorway in a car leaves you with a sore neck, on a bike it can leave you without legs.
Just respect other people's risk strategies "I'd kill myself" is just shorthand for "I don't like the risk"
I wouldnt kill myself on a bike
I'd seek psychological help from the NHS mental health services before i let it get that far.
Help is out there folks, you dont have to suffer from mental distress.
[edit] i just read the story above. Jesus, thats terrible, poor bloke. He was right to stay off the bike.
I'd seek psychological help from the NHS mental health services before i let it get that far.
Help is out there folks, you dont have to suffer from mental distress.
[edit] i just read the story above. Jesus, thats terrible, poor bloke. He was right to stay off the bike.
Edited by thatdude on Monday 1st September 20:00
George111 said:
I think you're all being unfair. Some people don't ride because they object to the higher risk involved. It's a fact you are more likely to be killed or maimed/disabled on a bike than in a car and everybody's risk evaluation is different. If you have a wife/gf and children then you do think differently about risk and are more likely to err on the side of cautiousness and go by car.
Don't forget that (I can't remember the figures) many bikers are killed by other people . . . not themselves and a heavy shunt on the motorway in a car leaves you with a sore neck, on a bike it can leave you without legs.
Just respect other people's risk strategies "I'd kill myself" is just shorthand for "I don't like the risk"
Don't go talking sense like that in this thread.Don't forget that (I can't remember the figures) many bikers are killed by other people . . . not themselves and a heavy shunt on the motorway in a car leaves you with a sore neck, on a bike it can leave you without legs.
Just respect other people's risk strategies "I'd kill myself" is just shorthand for "I don't like the risk"
theres a big difference in risk how/where you ride too ..and you do have a choice
5K miles a year on sunny days in the countryside on your own with little traffic and your life is mostly in your own hands
versus
10k miles a year commuting through a busy city putting your life into the hands of others who might not be paying as much attention as you on their way to work in the morning
5K miles a year on sunny days in the countryside on your own with little traffic and your life is mostly in your own hands
versus
10k miles a year commuting through a busy city putting your life into the hands of others who might not be paying as much attention as you on their way to work in the morning
George111 said:
Just respect other people's risk strategies "I'd kill myself" is just shorthand for "I don't like the risk"
So why not say that then? By saying "I'd kill myself", they get that easy get-off and without having to feel emasculated by admitting they "don't like the risk."Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff