Denying yourself nice bike because of theft
Discussion
I'm finding myself wanting and being able to afford something much nicer than my old scuffed CBR600F, but there is one thing putting me off.....
vehicle theft is rampant in my area due to the Police Scotland being so stretched and the thief's know it. Neighbor had two R1's stolen two weeks apart and it has put me off changing from my undesirable CBR.
Surely i'm not the only one holding back.
vehicle theft is rampant in my area due to the Police Scotland being so stretched and the thief's know it. Neighbor had two R1's stolen two weeks apart and it has put me off changing from my undesirable CBR.
Surely i'm not the only one holding back.
just make sure you insure it properly and read your policy thoroughly.
My friend just had his zxr 750 stolen from his garage. it was in a concrete garage with everything apparently declared. The insurance wont pay out as it wasnt ground anchored. which is a s
tter. Before the insurance people jump on me i have no idea or any real interest in finding out if he originally told them that it was ground anchored all i know is some idiots broke in through a metal door and nicked his bike and hes not getting any money which sucks.
I know my policy states that if the steering lock isnt applied its not insured for example. i dont think this was made very clear when speaking to the drone on the phone.
id get what you want. why let the thought of ifs and buts stop you enjoying your life, you only live once.
My friend just had his zxr 750 stolen from his garage. it was in a concrete garage with everything apparently declared. The insurance wont pay out as it wasnt ground anchored. which is a s
tter. Before the insurance people jump on me i have no idea or any real interest in finding out if he originally told them that it was ground anchored all i know is some idiots broke in through a metal door and nicked his bike and hes not getting any money which sucks. I know my policy states that if the steering lock isnt applied its not insured for example. i dont think this was made very clear when speaking to the drone on the phone.
id get what you want. why let the thought of ifs and buts stop you enjoying your life, you only live once.
mckeann said:
What area of Scotland is this??? Just curious
Ultimately, if they want it they will take it. Unless you can hide it so well that no one knows it's there.
Edinburgh. There are groups of known thief's coming from the deprived areas into the nicer areas and taking what they want. It happened to me a couple a years ago with my Mini. It was found stripped in someones back yard in one the rough areas. Ultimately, if they want it they will take it. Unless you can hide it so well that no one knows it's there.
Tim85 said:
The insurance wont pay out as it wasnt ground anchored. which is a stter.
I had an interesting one with the insurance when our R1 and KTM were stolen from the garage - no proof of Almax chain (they stole it! (luckily I had photos) and where are the keys to the KTM (it doesn't have any). tter.Tim85 said:
I know my policy states that if the steering lock isnt applied its not insured for example.
I told the insurers that the steering locks weren't on - what the heck is the point? Won't stop a thief and since they took the Almax/Squire/Torc anchored bikes anyway I doubt a thin cast alloy steering lock mechanism would stop them for more than about 3 nanoseconds. They saw my point and never mentioned it again.Edinburgh is a big place though.
You have three choices as I see it;
1) Move somewhere nicer (if you all get robbed regularly it isn't a good area regardlees of if the thieves are local or not).
2) Beef up security. Personally I find a fking big dog helps.
3) Live without a bike.
Only two of those work for me.
You have three choices as I see it;
1) Move somewhere nicer (if you all get robbed regularly it isn't a good area regardlees of if the thieves are local or not).
2) Beef up security. Personally I find a f
king big dog helps.3) Live without a bike.
Only two of those work for me.
Prof Prolapse said:
Edinburgh is a big place though.
You have three choices as I see it;
1) Move somewhere nicer (if you all get robbed regularly it isn't a good area regardlees of if the thieves are local or not).
2) Beef up security. Personally I find a fking big dog helps.
3) Live without a bike.
Only two of those work for me.
1) Having spoken to the police the nicer the area the more it is targeted. I live in on Milton Road at the Joppa end, which is about as nice as i can afford. Once i win the lottery i might stretch to a place in New Town. You have three choices as I see it;
1) Move somewhere nicer (if you all get robbed regularly it isn't a good area regardlees of if the thieves are local or not).
2) Beef up security. Personally I find a f
king big dog helps.3) Live without a bike.
Only two of those work for me.
2) I have a dog, he stays in the house. To have him chained up in the garage wouldn't be cricket would it. Dopey mutt would just wag his tail as they rolled off with it anyway.
3) That's crazy talk.
Edited by BuzzBravado on Tuesday 7th July 11:23
BuzzBravado said:
1) Having spoken to the police the nicer the area the more it is targeted. I live in on Milton Road at the Joppa end, which is about as nice as i can afford. Once i win the lottery i might stretch to a place in New Town.
2) I have a dog, he stays in the house. To have him chained up in the garage wouldn't be cricket would it. Dopey mutt would just wag his tail as they rolled off with it anyway.
3) That's crazy talk.
Well yes 'targetted', but that doesn't mean you're more likely to have a bike stolen overall. Leave your bike in Niddrie or Craigmillar or Sighthill I unattended and you could count in hours hownlong it will be there.2) I have a dog, he stays in the house. To have him chained up in the garage wouldn't be cricket would it. Dopey mutt would just wag his tail as they rolled off with it anyway.
3) That's crazy talk.
Edited by BuzzBravado on Tuesday 7th July 11:23
With respect as well as much as I agree your area is "nice", you are sandwiched between two of the three worst areas in Edinburgh. I mean one was knocked down after trainspotting was filmed there.
Just beef up the security mate. If you have a garage you're half way there.
andburg said:
secure your garage further?
if its a tilt door you can buy a garage defender
garage separate to the house or with an internal door through, if so fit deadbolts internally.
Agreed, many people focus on security INSIDE the garage/shed but once they are in, they have as much time as they need to defeat all those locks and alarms away from prying eyes.if its a tilt door you can buy a garage defender
garage separate to the house or with an internal door through, if so fit deadbolts internally.
Make the door/entry security as tight & difficult as possible(making the tea leafs job noisy and lengthy) to defeat and you are far, far less likely to have them attempt anything in the first place.
Good luck.
You are not alone. We all have to weigh up if we want to risk our nice bike or car in particular areas.
If you are likely to get robbed then I would say its better to have something less nice so you can actually keep it. A good friend of mine doesnt understand why I dont ride my 13 blade into work and leave it in the street? He doesnt get why I bought a Daytona 955i for that purpose.
I get that I am not enjoying my nice bike but then again I get to keep the damn thing which is also a plus point.
If you are likely to get robbed then I would say its better to have something less nice so you can actually keep it. A good friend of mine doesnt understand why I dont ride my 13 blade into work and leave it in the street? He doesnt get why I bought a Daytona 955i for that purpose.
I get that I am not enjoying my nice bike but then again I get to keep the damn thing which is also a plus point.
podman said:
andburg said:
secure your garage further?
if its a tilt door you can buy a garage defender
garage separate to the house or with an internal door through, if so fit deadbolts internally.
Agreed, many people focus on security INSIDE the garage/shed but once they are in, they have as much time as they need to defeat all those locks and alarms away from prying eyes.if its a tilt door you can buy a garage defender
garage separate to the house or with an internal door through, if so fit deadbolts internally.
Make the door/entry security as tight & difficult as possible(making the tea leafs job noisy and lengthy) to defeat and you are far, far less likely to have them attempt anything in the first place.
Good luck.
d to pry open. Looks well smart as it matches his fascia boards.It is absolute bks what is going on in Edinburgh at the moment. It's a small group of neds from Pilton and Drylaw who are stealing bikes with no recourse. It has made me paranoid as I my bikes are in proper quiet suburbia and has been targeted consistently (but not often) by thieves - cars mainly so far.
But if you are willing to break into someone's house and take their keys, what are you supposed to do? Keep you car keys in a safe so they put a knife to your throat instead?
The only thing that will actually affect how many bikes/ cars are stolen, is by going after who is stealing them. But considering half of them are 14/15 the police can't (and won't) do anything. Polmont Young Offenders Institution is hardly much of a deterrent for many of these kids out all night stealing bikes/torching cars.
ks what is going on in Edinburgh at the moment. It's a small group of neds from Pilton and Drylaw who are stealing bikes with no recourse. It has made me paranoid as I my bikes are in proper quiet suburbia and has been targeted consistently (but not often) by thieves - cars mainly so far. But if you are willing to break into someone's house and take their keys, what are you supposed to do? Keep you car keys in a safe so they put a knife to your throat instead?
The only thing that will actually affect how many bikes/ cars are stolen, is by going after who is stealing them. But considering half of them are 14/15 the police can't (and won't) do anything. Polmont Young Offenders Institution is hardly much of a deterrent for many of these kids out all night stealing bikes/torching cars.
gwm said:
It is absolute bks what is going on in Edinburgh at the moment. It's a small group of neds from Pilton and Drylaw who are stealing bikes with no recourse. It has made me paranoid as I my bikes are in proper quiet suburbia and has been targeted consistently (but not often) by thieves - cars mainly so far.
But if you are willing to break into someone's house and take their keys, what are you supposed to do? Keep you car keys in a safe so they put a knife to your throat instead?
The only thing that will actually affect how many bikes/ cars are stolen, is by going after who is stealing them. But considering half of them are 14/15 the police can't (and won't) do anything. Polmont Young Offenders Institution is hardly much of a deterrent for many of these kids out all night stealing bikes/torching cars.
And you reckon Falkirk's a sks what is going on in Edinburgh at the moment. It's a small group of neds from Pilton and Drylaw who are stealing bikes with no recourse. It has made me paranoid as I my bikes are in proper quiet suburbia and has been targeted consistently (but not often) by thieves - cars mainly so far. But if you are willing to break into someone's house and take their keys, what are you supposed to do? Keep you car keys in a safe so they put a knife to your throat instead?
The only thing that will actually affect how many bikes/ cars are stolen, is by going after who is stealing them. But considering half of them are 14/15 the police can't (and won't) do anything. Polmont Young Offenders Institution is hardly much of a deterrent for many of these kids out all night stealing bikes/torching cars.
tehole?I used to stay directly across from one of Scotlands biggest bike thieves.Had some interesting chats with him over a cup of tea and a Hobnob(chocolate ofcourse!)
Main question i was dying to ask him is what is the main thing that puts lovely gentlemen like yourself 'off' a job?He just said 'time'. Alarms dont do it,many stages of locks,obstacles,barriers,anchors.They just cant be arsed with that.They want in and out.So when you're staring at your bike in the garage think,right,if i was a thief standing here what would really get on my tits and put me off nicking,think like a thief!!It isn't as daft as it sounds!
Main question i was dying to ask him is what is the main thing that puts lovely gentlemen like yourself 'off' a job?He just said 'time'. Alarms dont do it,many stages of locks,obstacles,barriers,anchors.They just cant be arsed with that.They want in and out.So when you're staring at your bike in the garage think,right,if i was a thief standing here what would really get on my tits and put me off nicking,think like a thief!!It isn't as daft as it sounds!
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