intermediate trackdayer vs jenny tinmouth...
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I know the title will get the anger juices flowing.
The articles neither here nor there but the telemetry is pretty interesting to have a peruse.
It just shows how much of a world of difference there is.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2015/july/think...
The articles neither here nor there but the telemetry is pretty interesting to have a peruse.
It just shows how much of a world of difference there is.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2015/july/think...
this isnt a shes slow shes at the back blah blah blah, it could of been any bsb rider for all i care. Its just intresting to me to see the graphs back to back. Especially the 100% throttle one. Does the average inters rider honestly never open the throttle 100%. Do i? i think i do, im pretty sure i do... who knows. Its also interesting that she carries less corner speed than the average inters rider.
It might not interest any of you at all but i find it worth a gander.
It might not interest any of you at all but i find it worth a gander.
SAS Tom said:
That would be fine if she was racing with a grid of intermediate trackday riders but she isn't.
Indeed, the article makes mention of her relatively poor performance in the BSB, I'd rather see telemetry data between her and the other racers. Perhaps that'd explain why she is a backmarker in the series. Whilst comparing her data to that of an intermediate group rider is interesting, I don't think it's a particularly insightful comparison.The point of the article is to show all the armchair riders just how much harder a backmarker in BSB is riding compared to them.
Ironically all it's done is being out the exact comments that it's designed to silence.
A backmarker's qualifying time at Assen in BSB would be around 5 seconds off pole in MotoGP.
Ironically all it's done is being out the exact comments that it's designed to silence.
A backmarker's qualifying time at Assen in BSB would be around 5 seconds off pole in MotoGP.
Edited by LoonR1 on Tuesday 7th July 14:59
LoonR1 said:
The point of the article is to show all the armchair riders just how much harder a backmarker in BSB is riding compared to them.
Ironically all it's done is being out the exact comments that it's designed to silence.
A backmarker's qualifying time at Assen in BSB would be around 5 seconds off pole in MotoGP.
Shakey Byrne's time last year was roughly 5 seconds off Rossi's pole this year. A back marker would be a couple of seconds back from him, so not that close really. Ironically all it's done is being out the exact comments that it's designed to silence.
A backmarker's qualifying time at Assen in BSB would be around 5 seconds off pole in MotoGP.
Edited by LoonR1 on Tuesday 7th July 14:59
We still on for our bet about Jenny?
Prof Prolapse said:
LoonR1 said:
The point of the article is to show all the armchair riders just how much harder a backmarker in BSB is riding compared to them.
Ironically all it's done is being out the exact comments that it's designed to silence.
Well said.Ironically all it's done is being out the exact comments that it's designed to silence.
I still maintain that she won't get a point this year which is sad but it really just highlights how competitive BSB is at the moment (ignoring Shakey).
She is rapid, end of, we all know some quick guys littered around that should be racing etc etc but she would most likely hand it to nearly all of them.
What she says is interesting too, not only the full throttle bits but the braking and almost gung ho style of just getting it around the corner anyway possible almost, the braking and throttle parts are what matter.
George29 said:
Shakey Byrne's time last year was roughly 5 seconds off Rossi's pole this year. A back marker would be a couple of seconds back from him, so not that close really.
We still on for our bet about Jenny?
We're still on. I think I underestimated the depth of the field this year!We still on for our bet about Jenny?
I was quoting Lee Costello, he's just chucked that up on his page amd started a bit of a discussion amongst those of us who've ridden on track and some of the Billy Bullstters. Having just done two days at Cadwell, it's funny to watch the amount of people who simply sit on the seat and sort of lean, but sort of bounce their upper body as they do it, as if they're mimicking Lorenzo.
It's weird to watch and yet the conversations in the clubhouse are of how close they were and the laptimes they're setting, when they're probably 30-40 seconds away from a decent fast group pace.
gwm said:
So all the bks about keeping corner entry speed is just that - you should just buy an RR and point and squirt like a pro?
Yep. Pretty much that - everybody should , it really is that easy .......times will just come "crashing " down .... I reckon ...again, very interesting how people interpret things....I think relativity is the key here, oh that and time and effort , many years of it at the sharp end , many many crashes with broken bones aplenty, as everybody up at her level and those who compare themselves to that level can no doubt attest to .Also , intricacies come into play when getting anywhere remotely close to that level - accuracy in every detail - not wanting to berate you but look how easy it is to mistake corner speed for your interpretation " corner entry".....and so on and so on .... Remember - if you've got a big axe, you'll need a big room to swing it in ....
gwm said:
So all the bks about keeping corner entry speed is just that - you should just buy an RR and point and squirt like a pro?
If you've ever seen them braking close up before a corner you'll see how difficult that is. At Oulton they are changing up and still on full throttle where I start braking on the way into Hizzys. It's amazing to watch, especially at a circuit where you've ridden yourself. The speed with which they are on full throttle too, not just on the throttle is amazing. Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff