RJ Almost got bikejacked
Discussion
eybic said:
Iva Barchetta said:
Good !
People are fighting back against this thieving scum team.
They'll get what's due eventually.....
I don't think they will though, nothing will be done until they kill somebody, then it's too late.People are fighting back against this thieving scum team.
They'll get what's due eventually.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/07/shockin...
Biker 1 said:
Pothole said:
It's an awkward consequence of civilised society. I'm happy with that and so should you be, really.
Surely there has to be a way of stopping these scumbags?Pothole said:
It's an awkward consequence of civilised society. I'm happy with that and so should you be, really.
There's the Phillipines currently and then there is us. There is a happy medium in the middle and our balance is out of whack. Personally I like American style policing and before the gullible liberal type jump on the 'shooting unarmed ethnic minorities bandwagon' - I'm talking general values and morality they practice.
3DP said:
Pothole said:
It's an awkward consequence of civilised society. I'm happy with that and so should you be, really.
There's the Phillipines currently and then there is us. There is a happy medium in the middle and our balance is out of whack. Personally I like American style policing and before the gullible liberal type jump on the 'shooting unarmed ethnic minorities bandwagon' - I'm talking general values and morality they practice.Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 13th December 18:50
Pothole said:
Biker 1 said:
Pothole said:
It's an awkward consequence of civilised society. I'm happy with that and so should you be, really.
Surely there has to be a way of stopping these scumbags?Seriously, how is that going to make any difference at all? He won't get jailed for no licence/insurance. And even if he did, it would be 28 days, out in 2 weeks, back on the rob.
Whilst the police don't need to be authorised to ram them off the road, they DO need to be authorised to put a couple of bikes behind them, follow them, and nick them properly for the offences committed. If they genuinely fall off in the process, that really is not the police's fault and nobody should be held to account for it. Political Correctness/Human Rights Gone Mad strikes (yet) again. Where are the Human Rights of the owners of stolen bikes? (Yes, I'm one of them).
Burglary and theft seems to have moved on a level to the extent where as in the videos it would appear that anyone with enough front can pretty well take what they want when they want even in broad daylight while being filmed.
Softly softly liberal policeing might have it's place on the IOW but I really can't see it having much of an impact in our city's.
Softly softly liberal policeing might have it's place on the IOW but I really can't see it having much of an impact in our city's.
Fleegle said:
Pothole said:
So many expert critics, so few workable ideas...
So we just lie back and let them get on with it?Pothole said:
3DP said:
Pothole said:
It's an awkward consequence of civilised society. I'm happy with that and so should you be, really.
There's the Phillipines currently and then there is us. There is a happy medium in the middle and our balance is out of whack. Personally I like American style policing and before the gullible liberal type jump on the 'shooting unarmed ethnic minorities bandwagon' - I'm talking general values and morality they practice.Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 13th December 18:50
ts about the upbringing and back story of a scum bag committing an aggravated or violent crime. Neither do I have spare st to give about their 'human rights'. I would happily back a far more empowered police force when it comes pursuit and persecution of criminals in the act. The moral hazard of the current policing model is amply demonstrated by the 600% rise in scooter related crime alone. The slight uptick in injuries and death of public and criminals will ultimately be offset by far lower incidences of the crimes and therefore injuries, misery and deaths of the law abiding public. 
3DP said:
I'm afraid that comes under the heading of liberal sneering as far as I'm concerned. I give zero sts about the upbringing and back story of a scum bag committing an aggravated or violent crime. Neither do I have spare st to give about their 'human rights'. I would happily back a far more empowered police force when it comes pursuit and persecution of criminals in the act. The moral hazard of the current policing model is amply demonstrated by the 600% rise in scooter related crime alone. The slight uptick in injuries and death of public and criminals will ultimately be offset by far lower incidences of the crimes and therefore injuries, misery and deaths of the law abiding public.
Sums it up beautifully for me. ts about the upbringing and back story of a scum bag committing an aggravated or violent crime. Neither do I have spare st to give about their 'human rights'. I would happily back a far more empowered police force when it comes pursuit and persecution of criminals in the act. The moral hazard of the current policing model is amply demonstrated by the 600% rise in scooter related crime alone. The slight uptick in injuries and death of public and criminals will ultimately be offset by far lower incidences of the crimes and therefore injuries, misery and deaths of the law abiding public. The problem is anyone with an ounce of common sense (that's us, the public) aren't in the positions of politics and law making that could make the changes. Therefore things won't change because for some reason telling it like it is and having a harder stance is kept under the rug.
The older I get the more I do think there is some tendencies towards the general theme of the New World Order controlling stuff. I don't actually believe in it but there is definitely an elite that have a different agenda to normal people with what we would describe as common sense.
I might write to my MP about the general thievery going on in London and give them some work to do. How do I find out who my local pleb is?
The older I get the more I do think there is some tendencies towards the general theme of the New World Order controlling stuff. I don't actually believe in it but there is definitely an elite that have a different agenda to normal people with what we would describe as common sense.
I might write to my MP about the general thievery going on in London and give them some work to do. How do I find out who my local pleb is?
There are things that can be done but little that is likely to make a difference quickly.
Talking the law into your own hands, while understandably tempting, is exactly the wrong thing to do. “Knowing” you are right and justified in doing something illegal is exactly what the scrotes are doing so it makes you no better than them.
Pushing for more militarisation of the Police is great until it’s someone close to you who gets the police kicking/beating because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although a minority situation, the Police have a history of abuse of force against innocent parties and I, for one, don’t want to give them more tools with which to expand that potential abuse of power.
The laws to address this situation correctly already exist. The problem is that motorcycle theft is not seen as a high priority. If we really want this addressed then the only way is to make it be seen as a high priority. Write to your local council, your Police and Crime Commissioner (Do they really commission crime????), your MP and anyone else you can think of. Get your friends and relatives to do the same. Join MAG and campaign within that group to get this addressed. Organise demonstrations as the French bikers do. 2000+ plus bikes riding SLOWLY, carefully and considerately across London and other cities on a busy day should get some attention.
Can’t be bothered to do that or expect someone else to do it? Just how much of a priority is bike theft to you?
Talking the law into your own hands, while understandably tempting, is exactly the wrong thing to do. “Knowing” you are right and justified in doing something illegal is exactly what the scrotes are doing so it makes you no better than them.
Pushing for more militarisation of the Police is great until it’s someone close to you who gets the police kicking/beating because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although a minority situation, the Police have a history of abuse of force against innocent parties and I, for one, don’t want to give them more tools with which to expand that potential abuse of power.
The laws to address this situation correctly already exist. The problem is that motorcycle theft is not seen as a high priority. If we really want this addressed then the only way is to make it be seen as a high priority. Write to your local council, your Police and Crime Commissioner (Do they really commission crime????), your MP and anyone else you can think of. Get your friends and relatives to do the same. Join MAG and campaign within that group to get this addressed. Organise demonstrations as the French bikers do. 2000+ plus bikes riding SLOWLY, carefully and considerately across London and other cities on a busy day should get some attention.
Can’t be bothered to do that or expect someone else to do it? Just how much of a priority is bike theft to you?
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