Post accident report - anyone feeling investigative?
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Can't help with the cause although I have to say that as I read your OP, I did think perhaps you had been tapped from behind.
Regarding the memory, it's a strange thing. Sounds like you've had a significant whack on the head which must be part of the equation. However, back in 2006, I binned a bike just as I entered Paddock Hill at Brands. Injury-wise, I had a small bruise on one foot, and a friction burn on one elbow (under the leathers), in other words, nothing really at all. There was not a mark on my crash helmet. However, whilst I clearly remember the bike tucking and going down (a total WTF moment as that would have been the first time I'd dropped a bike in about 25 years!), the next thing I recall is being on my knees in the gravel, next to the bike. I got up, waved my arms to show I was OK, and got picked up by the van. Never needed any hospital or other treatment, but to this day I have never been able to remember the seconds which elapsed between knowing I was off, and being on my knees. Not a thing.
Hope yours does come back, and hope you're feeling better soon.
Regarding the memory, it's a strange thing. Sounds like you've had a significant whack on the head which must be part of the equation. However, back in 2006, I binned a bike just as I entered Paddock Hill at Brands. Injury-wise, I had a small bruise on one foot, and a friction burn on one elbow (under the leathers), in other words, nothing really at all. There was not a mark on my crash helmet. However, whilst I clearly remember the bike tucking and going down (a total WTF moment as that would have been the first time I'd dropped a bike in about 25 years!), the next thing I recall is being on my knees in the gravel, next to the bike. I got up, waved my arms to show I was OK, and got picked up by the van. Never needed any hospital or other treatment, but to this day I have never been able to remember the seconds which elapsed between knowing I was off, and being on my knees. Not a thing.
Hope yours does come back, and hope you're feeling better soon.
I'd say not to worry about what happened just yet - I know it's bloody aggravating and you feel that you need to know but chances are it will remain a mystery to you, just concentrate on recovery. Years back I "dropped" my Z650 Streetfighter, somewhat different to your bike but damage was similar"ish". I was convinced that I'd run into the side of a car as the last thing I remembered was seeing the car in front turn sharp left into a driveway - actual memory of the accident returned very gradually over the course of many months, and even then, not entirely, and some neighbours were able to fill in some blanks. As it turned out, I'd panic braked, locked up the front, stood the bike on its nose and cartwheeled it resulting in damage to both sides and front and back end, including buckled wheel etc. No other vehicles involved despite it looking like it had been rammed by a truck!
All the best, you'll mend...
All the best, you'll mend...
)I had a big one 1998 I think 
I guess it was the beginning of reality TV at the time because I was on some sky program called speed or something, the tv crew were riding around with Derbyshire police and my accident made the cut
. Or the aftermath .
I no what happened due to my friend and witnesses' but have false memories of the event due to people telling me, at the time I didn't realise I was married or where I lived so had a good whack on the head.
A car pulled a U turn on me into a lay bye on the opposite side of the road while I had decided to overtake, the kicker is he had his left indicator on to turn left and decided going right was better
. I hit him at about 50mph but lucky for me I went through the side window so not quiet a full on brain rattle.
Since getting back into bikes 3 years ago I do not filter and find it hard to commit to overtake where there is ANY possibility of someone swinging in
. It has hindered my fun but ultimately made me safer.
At least I remember what fetched me off unlike your accident which is not good not knowing
I guess it was the beginning of reality TV at the time because I was on some sky program called speed or something, the tv crew were riding around with Derbyshire police and my accident made the cut
. Or the aftermath .I no what happened due to my friend and witnesses' but have false memories of the event due to people telling me, at the time I didn't realise I was married or where I lived so had a good whack on the head.
A car pulled a U turn on me into a lay bye on the opposite side of the road while I had decided to overtake, the kicker is he had his left indicator on to turn left and decided going right was better
. I hit him at about 50mph but lucky for me I went through the side window so not quiet a full on brain rattle.Since getting back into bikes 3 years ago I do not filter and find it hard to commit to overtake where there is ANY possibility of someone swinging in
. It has hindered my fun but ultimately made me safer.At least I remember what fetched me off unlike your accident which is not good not knowing
When I stuffed the Pan Euro in Luxembourg I low-sided and the bike slid a good thirty or forty feet before the front wheel hit an upright post supporting an Armco barrier. The wheel was so badly buckled it wouldn't turn and both the stanchions were bent below the lower yoke. I doubt the bike hit the deck doing more than 50 and it ploughed a trench before the impact so yes, even a low-speed clout would do that much rim damage. Could easily have been a brick on the road, clipped kerb etc etc.
First off really glad you are OK. Looks and sounds painful.
Not probably something you should answer on here but it does look a little like "wheelie gone wrong" damage, although the scrapes on the visor suggests going down the road on your front rather than back.
I say this because I have first hand experience from ditching my rather angry Honda XR 650R many years ago.
Well, what I mean to say is that my errrrrm..... my errrrrm, yes that's right...my throttle was sticky and the bike suddenly and without warning poured on a load of power and despite me riding extremely carefully and safely the bike flipped over backwards. Yes, that's definitely what happened, officer!
Anyway, bike flipped, off the back I fell, landed hard on my arse, got a big bang on the head, did several very ungainly somersaults and came to rest by a lamp post. The bike was the other side of the road in a ditch with similar damage to yours. Rear end gone, exhaust dented and bent, handle bars bent etc.
And yes - it really really f
king hurt. Only a few hundred yards from the house and for the first time in ages I was riding in jeans. High quality bike jacket rode up my back so was not effective protection. Still have a patch on my arse that is numb 10 years later and my knees took a hell of a beating too. Had to wear tracksuit trousers to work for 10 days because my arse was so swollen! Helmet (no the one on my head) worked though thank God.
Amazing what can happen when you run out of talent when wearing the wrong gear. I think I got of lightly frankly.
Bummer was that someone called an ambulance which triggered the police turning up at the hospital asking all sorts of difficult questions. It is a good thing it was a mechanical failure and not a result of me trying to break my wheelie record or anything - otherwise I would have been in a lot of trouble I suspect. Nice too that the police got to me before the doctor found time to wander in to see me.
Anyway, hope you have a speedy recovery and very glad that it was not wheelie related.
TD
Not probably something you should answer on here but it does look a little like "wheelie gone wrong" damage, although the scrapes on the visor suggests going down the road on your front rather than back.
I say this because I have first hand experience from ditching my rather angry Honda XR 650R many years ago.
Well, what I mean to say is that my errrrrm..... my errrrrm, yes that's right...my throttle was sticky and the bike suddenly and without warning poured on a load of power and despite me riding extremely carefully and safely the bike flipped over backwards. Yes, that's definitely what happened, officer!
Anyway, bike flipped, off the back I fell, landed hard on my arse, got a big bang on the head, did several very ungainly somersaults and came to rest by a lamp post. The bike was the other side of the road in a ditch with similar damage to yours. Rear end gone, exhaust dented and bent, handle bars bent etc.
And yes - it really really f
king hurt. Only a few hundred yards from the house and for the first time in ages I was riding in jeans. High quality bike jacket rode up my back so was not effective protection. Still have a patch on my arse that is numb 10 years later and my knees took a hell of a beating too. Had to wear tracksuit trousers to work for 10 days because my arse was so swollen! Helmet (no the one on my head) worked though thank God.Amazing what can happen when you run out of talent when wearing the wrong gear. I think I got of lightly frankly.
Bummer was that someone called an ambulance which triggered the police turning up at the hospital asking all sorts of difficult questions. It is a good thing it was a mechanical failure and not a result of me trying to break my wheelie record or anything - otherwise I would have been in a lot of trouble I suspect. Nice too that the police got to me before the doctor found time to wander in to see me.
Anyway, hope you have a speedy recovery and very glad that it was not wheelie related.
TD
Biker 1 said:
My 2p worth:
See a good osteopath for several sessions - it'll really help long term!
Please don't do this.See a good osteopath for several sessions - it'll really help long term!
I'm sorry but Osteopathy only works by the placebo effect. You're pissing your money away paying for a magic back rub. It's quack medicine.
Stay in the real world, except there are no quick solutions and see a physiotherapist. If you feel you need to move things quicker, pay to see a specialist privately.
Prof Prolapse said:
Biker 1 said:
My 2p worth:
See a good osteopath for several sessions - it'll really help long term!
Please don't do this.See a good osteopath for several sessions - it'll really help long term!
I'm sorry but Osteopathy only works by the placebo effect. You're pissing your money away paying for a magic back rub. It's quack medicine.
Stay in the real world, except there are no quick solutions and see a physiotherapist. If you feel you need to move things quicker, pay to see a specialist privately.
fergus said:
Are you sure you're not referring to chiropractors? Osteo's typically undergo more training than physios IIRC?
Osteopaths and Chiropractors are both charlatans I'm afraid. The issue isn't how much training they have in their magic powers, rather that they rely on magic in the first place (magic is actually the correct word).In hundreds of years of failing to demonstrate any efficacy Osteopathy finally demonstrated it was "as good" (not better) in treating lower back pain compared with Physiotherapy a few years ago. This isn't a breakthrough however, it rather just shows how poor modern medicine is at treating the back. It was a limited study as well.
Physiotherapy by contrast practices evidence-based medicine. They typically have accredited education to degree level, and their field is a science. Being a science it reflects the world we live in, and changes based on observations. By contrast Osteopathy is an art. Like painting, office management, or drawing on the pavements in chalk and begging for change. In Osteopathy reality is denied in order to maintain stuffy old practices which were designed by a deranged man with no understanding of how the body works. Osteopaths tend to shield this behind formidable knowledge of physiology, before making insanely grandiose claims, to be laughed at openly by doctors. All conmen can give a good chat after all.
Physiotherapists also has a professional body and individuals are required to meet certain professional requirements, meaning they are quality controlled, of a known standard and vetted. Whilst Osteopaths have a professional body, I do not believe it is a requirement to practice. I believe I could open a magic back rub parlour tomorrow with no training, or degree. You can't regulate what doesn't exist!
Sorry but you did ask.
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