Max's shed of a TT600

Max's shed of a TT600

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Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Pothole said:
underwhelmist said:
Pothole said:
Do they do hard chroming?
I don't think so, but they rebuilt my forks with a new pair of stanchions. I don't think having the old stanchions hard chromed would have worked out much cheaper and the job would have taken a lot longer.
Just had a look at their website. I reckon I'll give them a shout soon.
Sorry to hijack your thread again, OP. I popped into see them the other week. Proper old school set up. Took my forks out last week so will be taking them in shortly.

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Pothole said:
Pothole said:
underwhelmist said:
Pothole said:
Do they do hard chroming?
I don't think so, but they rebuilt my forks with a new pair of stanchions. I don't think having the old stanchions hard chromed would have worked out much cheaper and the job would have taken a lot longer.
Just had a look at their website. I reckon I'll give them a shout soon.
Sorry to hijack your thread again, OP. I popped into see them the other week. Proper old school set up. Took my forks out last week so will be taking them in shortly.
No problem, the RSU is still on the to do list, but getting it running first is more important.

Rubin215 said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182530561726?ssPageName=...

Had a set of these on Mrs 215's first TT; did a great job of protecting the rear end from throw-overs and bungees.
It's not really worth protecting the rear bodywork on this, its not exactly mint.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Took my battery out to charge it at the weekend and noticed oil in the tray...blockage/blowback from somewhere...need to get the tank off to fit the iridium plugs I've had in the drawer for about a year so I'll investigate that as well.

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Pothole said:
Took my battery out to charge it at the weekend and noticed oil in the tray...blockage/blowback from somewhere...need to get the tank off to fit the iridium plugs I've had in the drawer for about a year so I'll investigate that as well.
Oops, my engine has a fine film of oil (probably from being over filled) so I wouldn't be spotting a small puddle. I leave the battery in the bike to charge it as well. - That reminds me, a new battery strap is on the to-do list as well, not that the battery appears to move anywhere.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Max5476 said:
Pothole said:
Took my battery out to charge it at the weekend and noticed oil in the tray...blockage/blowback from somewhere...need to get the tank off to fit the iridium plugs I've had in the drawer for about a year so I'll investigate that as well.
Oops, my engine has a fine film of oil (probably from being over filled) so I wouldn't be spotting a small puddle. I leave the battery in the bike to charge it as well. - That reminds me, a new battery strap is on the to-do list as well, not that the battery appears to move anywhere.
I'm moving slowly towards the kind of refurb you're doing, really, only I work crappy shifts and am a lazy bugger. No huge incentive now I don't need to sell it and I have a 1050 Tiger Sport as a daily. I'm great at taking stuff off and stripping it down...

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Pothole said:
I'm moving slowly towards the kind of refurb you're doing, really, only I work crappy shifts and am a lazy bugger. No huge incentive now I don't need to sell it and I have a 1050 Tiger Sport as a daily. I'm great at taking stuff off and stripping it down...
It wasn't supposed to be a slow refurb until I had picked up a second bike to use regularly, but never mind, i've not really had much time to get out and ride anyway. Been given a date of mid-june for my second bike, so its on its way

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2017
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So I had a spare friday afternoon, so started working on the bike again.

Tank off to replace the IACV pipe work.



new colour matched silicon hose (very important) to replace the old pipes



I put in some t-pieces to balance the throttle bodies



Some assembly required on the vacuum gauges. I forgot to take any more photos at this point, but connected them up. The needles currently bounce all over the place, so I need to clamp the hose to restrict the flow a little. I was out of time at this point, so will do that next weekend probably. It sounds great without the air box installed. I don't fully understand if I should have the IACV connected or not. The manual suggests the IACV is bypassed which means the bike won't run without a little throttle opening, but the T-pieces meant I didn't worry about that so it appeared to fire up ok. More investigation required i think.

I discovered the air box is missing a rubber strap to hold it in place, so I ordered a new one with the hope it will seat on the throttle bodies better as well.

(these photos are a little out of focus, sorry)

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Max5476 said:
The needles currently bounce all over the place, so I need to clamp the hose to restrict the flow a little.
I'm a bit surprised there is no damping built into the gauges, that would make them unusable on any engine with individual throttles. On mine there is a screw within the spigot on the gauge that you push the pipe onto, i.e. have to remove pipe and put screwdriver down the spigot to adjust.

Max5476 said:
I don't fully understand if I should have the IACV connected or not. The manual suggests the IACV is bypassed which means the bike won't run without a little throttle opening, but the T-pieces meant I didn't worry about that so it appeared to fire up ok. More investigation required i think.
I have always T'eed into the IACV pipes on my Tornado (same ECU) as, like you say, it either won't run or will run very badly with the IACV effectively blanked off. You can't really balance the throttles whilst trying to hold them open. Having the IACV in circuit also means you can compensate for any imbalances within the valve itself.

This system uses both ignition advanace and the IACV to control idle, if you change the operating point of the stepper in TuneEcu you should see the ignition advance change to maintain the idle with the new airflow through the valve. This also changes the air/fuel ratio in my experience.

These are fantastically complicated systems to set up correctly, as proven by almost every manufacturer who used them getting it wrong. Unfortunately there are several calibrations that are not available from TuneEcu, e.g. the IACV has it's own airflow vs stepper position calibration and the throttle bodies have a leakage calibration (i.e. airflow with closed throttle) which all affect idle, but are simply not adjustable with the tools available, so it's all a bit of a compromise.

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Bit of a late update, but I managed to find the time to finish balancing the throttle bodies, and replace a lot of the pipe work. It runs a lot better at low revs now, but is still struggling to start, particularly when hot, so needs some further work.



The fuel tank fittings didn't cause me any issues, until final reassembly, at which point the return pin snapped. I was able to correctly locate the fuel line, but next time the tank comes off will be a pain.

I mocked up a tank strap tank with some cable ties, and have ordered the rubber strap that someone has lost previously to replace it with.

In more exciting news, my new bike has turned up at the dealers today smile but i have a 3 week wait until they PDI it.

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Friday 9th June 2017
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So i got an action camera and stuck it to my helmet, a short video from my first ride is uploaded here, nothing to exciting, just some local country lanes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJpGLSWbeg

My new bike is being PDId today, and I will be going to pick it up tomorrow (as long as I can get a reasonable insurance quote this afternoon...). Pictures to follow.

Max5476

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114 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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Had a fun morning today, the TT now has a stablemate...


Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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Very nice!

AKDC

31 posts

109 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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Congrats on the new bike!

Did I see this parked outside Bulldog Triumph this week? Looks very cool.

Max5476

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985 posts

114 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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AKDC said:
Congrats on the new bike!

Did I see this parked outside Bulldog Triumph this week? Looks very cool.
Unlikely, I picked it up from Birmingham smile the R's only made it to dealers 2 or 3 weeks ago. The RS and S have been around a little longer though.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Picked my rebuilt forks up today. Looks like they've done a cracking job. I've got a run up to Windermere tomorrow so let's hope the rain goes away Friday so I can get them back on the bike!

Max5476

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114 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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So the TT is gone. I hadn't touched it since picking up my Street Triple, and it was just taking up space in the garage. Having realised its MOT ran out a week ago, I stuck in on gumtree for spares or repair, and someone had come and paid for it next day, so a very easy sale, if it did lose me a little money.

This meant I got rid of it before finding an MOT fail list as long as my arm, although for the next owner, hopefully not.