R1 stolen in broad daylight
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I think they need to change the law so that anyone caught in the act can get put away for a good bit of time, especially if they hurt someone in the process. I think part of the appeal for these f**ks is that if they get caught it's 'usually' just a slap on the wrist so they really don't have much to lose.
I'm up in Aberdeen and there have been a rise in this here as well, nothing to the extent of London but almost a daily occurrence here. They tend to be breaking into peoples lock ups/garages at night. There have been a few that have been caught but they just go straight back to it as the law is not strict enough to deter them!
I'm up in Aberdeen and there have been a rise in this here as well, nothing to the extent of London but almost a daily occurrence here. They tend to be breaking into peoples lock ups/garages at night. There have been a few that have been caught but they just go straight back to it as the law is not strict enough to deter them!
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I can't imagine them running to the Police to report an assault. I would also assume those carrying out the assault on the poor guys would be smart enough to mask their identities somehow also. There was a time when the fear was with the thief in so far as getting caught stealing, time to reinstall that fear in them. rallycross said:
Another one here at least the public intervened, why are the plocie not using decoy bikes to catch these little s
ts?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497146/Ga...
When I reported one of my many bike thefts to Fulham police station and asked about bait bikes, they told me they had a brand new S1000RR rigged especially for that purposes but couldn't get the permission / manpower to use it.ts?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497146/Ga...
marcella said:
I think they need to change the law so that anyone caught in the act can get put away for a good bit of time, especially if they hurt someone in the process. I think part of the appeal for these f**ks is that if they get caught it's 'usually' just a slap on the wrist so they really don't have much to lose.
I'm up in Aberdeen and there have been a rise in this here as well, nothing to the extent of London but almost a daily occurrence here. They tend to be breaking into peoples lock ups/garages at night. There have been a few that have been caught but they just go straight back to it as the law is not strict enough to deter them!
QUOTEI'm up in Aberdeen and there have been a rise in this here as well, nothing to the extent of London but almost a daily occurrence here. They tend to be breaking into peoples lock ups/garages at night. There have been a few that have been caught but they just go straight back to it as the law is not strict enough to deter them!
"For the past two months Nathan has been remanded following his arrest and charge for 10 offences at the beginning of March. They were:
4 counts of breaching his Criminal Behaviour Order
4 four counts of Driving Whilst Disqualified
1 count of Theft from Motor Vehicle
1 count of Theft of Motor Vehicle
1 count of Driving a Motor Vehicle which had been taken without the owner’s consent
On 28th April Nathan Bick was convicted of the following three offences:
2 counts of breaching his Criminal Behaviour Order
1 count of driving a conveyance knowing that it had been taken without the authority of the lawful owner
He was sentenced at Wimbledon Magistrates Court on Monday, 8th May 2017 to a total of 16 weeks detention suspended for 12 months. He was also ordered to pay costs of £200 to the CPS and to pay a surcharge of £115 to victim services."
Some reports say he's paying it off a fiver a week, good work!
Can't remember where I read it now (was poss here?) where someone said that what's really needed is for 3 or 4 blokes to lift one of these lot into a van, drive them out into the sticks and give them a shovel and tell them to start digging. Then once they've dig a big enough hole, tell them that if they get lifted again it will be for real the next time. They're simply not afraid of anything in "normal" society so they need to learn harder lessons.
CAPP0 said:
Can't remember where I read it now (was poss here?) where someone said that what's really needed is for 3 or 4 blokes to lift one of these lot into a van, drive them out into the sticks and give them a shovel and tell them to start digging. Then once they've dig a big enough hole, tell them that if they get lifted again it will be for real the next time. They're simply not afraid of anything in "normal" society so they need to learn harder lessons.
Slight problem with your plan is that you've just given them a pretty useful weapon by handing them a spade. Plus, it's also kidnapping which carries a fairly hefty sentence. Alxxx said:
Noticed a few suspect characters around the West Drayton/ Uxbridge area recently (more than usual anyway). A few peds with no plates, a couple of kids on a ktm 125 followed me for a bit a couple of weeks ago and yesterday I was passed by a clearly stolen Matt Grey Street Triple, rode straight past a police car with no plates. Hopefully my beaten up old XJR400 doesn't tickle their fancy. Makes me think twice about taking one of my nicer bikes to work though.
On a slightly unrelated note last year someone left a pinched scooter with swapped plates outside my garage, I called the police and it was removed within the hour.
Just in the area, I have noticed some young gentlemen racing around on bikes like a GS and scrambler. I cant tell if they are nicked or not as the plates etc are all on. But they are literally thrashing them up and down the roads, wearing jeans and puffa jackets.On a slightly unrelated note last year someone left a pinched scooter with swapped plates outside my garage, I called the police and it was removed within the hour.
Gavia said:
CAPP0 said:
Can't remember where I read it now (was poss here?) where someone said that what's really needed is for 3 or 4 blokes to lift one of these lot into a van, drive them out into the sticks and give them a shovel and tell them to start digging. Then once they've dig a big enough hole, tell them that if they get lifted again it will be for real the next time. They're simply not afraid of anything in "normal" society so they need to learn harder lessons.
Slight problem with your plan is that you've just given them a pretty useful weapon by handing them a spade. Plus, it's also kidnapping which carries a fairly hefty sentence. t. Now I won't be able to go through with it. I'll have to start thinking all over again.
Scooter gangs commit 50,000 crimes a year in London, according to the Evening Standard. The article highlights motorcycle hijacking by scooter gangs and reports there being at least 500 known offenders.It looks like vigilantes are being recruited to hunt down gang members.
hellsbuddha said:
At least in Brazil there is the off-chance of instant karma via an off-duty cop with a gun. Over there unless someone rams them, they are off and gone.
Have any of them been caught, I don't see pushing a bike with your foot as much of a getaway plan , what's a copper going to do if threatened with a weapon even if he is on the scene, anywhere else point a knife at a copper and you get a bullet, here it's stop or I'll shout stop again or I might hit you with this stickIn the 60s they used to say criminals had respect for the law because they weren't armed so they didn't go armed, now we have gangs of criminals as brazen as this those days are over
Edited by wack on Sunday 21st May 11:55
I recently followed a couple of moped thieves doing this and they are surprisingly efficient using this technique, I hate them with a passion, and we spend a large proportion of our time dealing with them, they are quite difficult to deal with tbh. Anyway I'm not getting in to the argument about what the police do or dont do, this isnt the place to do so, and I'm not the person to do it!
So once the thief is on the bike they coast it in neutral with the bike behind two up, one driving and one pushing every so often, once they've got going it just keeps rolling keeping the speed at about 40-50, yeah its bloody dangerous, red lights and junctions etc. and hard to catch.
Secondly, I and most officers I know have dealt with many suspects with knives unarmed, and bought most in, some got away, you dont need a gun, that's the last thing we need in the UK, as then they'd likely start tooling themselves up properly, and I for one would be less up for facing that! As for all this Acid stuff, this really makes me angry, whther its lemon juice or whatever the fact that victims don't know what they've been sprayed with must be utterly terrifying. People who do this need locking up for a damn long time.
So once the thief is on the bike they coast it in neutral with the bike behind two up, one driving and one pushing every so often, once they've got going it just keeps rolling keeping the speed at about 40-50, yeah its bloody dangerous, red lights and junctions etc. and hard to catch.
Secondly, I and most officers I know have dealt with many suspects with knives unarmed, and bought most in, some got away, you dont need a gun, that's the last thing we need in the UK, as then they'd likely start tooling themselves up properly, and I for one would be less up for facing that! As for all this Acid stuff, this really makes me angry, whther its lemon juice or whatever the fact that victims don't know what they've been sprayed with must be utterly terrifying. People who do this need locking up for a damn long time.
well looks like maybe the police have officially changed their tactics at long last. It will be interesting to see if the copper gets desk duty for the next 1000 years while he is investigated or not. Unfortunately I bet we don't find out.
Moped rider, 17, rushed to hospital after crash during police chase
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/north-circula...
Moped rider, 17, rushed to hospital after crash during police chase
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/north-circula...
CoolHands said:
well looks like maybe the police have officially changed their tactics at long last. It will be interesting to see if the copper gets desk duty for the next 1000 years while he is investigated or not. Unfortunately I bet we don't find out.
Moped rider, 17, rushed to hospital after crash during police chase
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/north-circula...
What was the charge?Moped rider, 17, rushed to hospital after crash during police chase
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/north-circula...
Why has the moped rider not been charged?
Spanglepants said:
Why the f*** is that copper going after the fella that kicked him ?
Took them long enough to do something about these POS but look how quick they can go after the other bloke.
Are you really asking that? While I have no doubt the scrote deserved a good kicking, donging so while plod are holding him down is a privilege reserved for the custody sergeant in the privacy of the cells!!!Took them long enough to do something about these POS but look how quick they can go after the other bloke.
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