Sun's out it's biker moronic time

[tvrolet]

Sadly, there's a lot of it about. Absolutely agree not all bikes are ridden by pricks, and not all car drivers are angels...but there does seem to be a disproportionate number of dheads on 2 wheels. No doubt in part as a significant number in the demographic are young (and not so young) males riding for fun, with cars on the road fall into a far broader spread of drivers with most just trying to get from A to B. I guess if we isolate just the younger hot-hatch brigade driving for fun on a weekend the ratio of dheads to vehicles on the road would be about the same as bikes.

So taking my last weekend as an example, I encountered one instance of cars driving like dheads, and 3 bikes ridden by dheads. Of course there were many other bikes ridden well (and not based on speed, just 'good' riding)...but for sure there's a pretty good chance of Joe-average seeing tttish riding on a bike, despite the low numbers on the road; which can't be good for the reputation of anyone on 2 wheels. And so I can't agree with the attitude that folks reporting these incidents have some sort of 'issue' - not allowed a bike as a kid, too scared, jealous, not breast-fed as a child, closet leather-fetishist or whatever. Some folks just ride like pricks, and it's natural folks are going to bring it up as an issue and then it comes back to bite everyone.

As an aside, I took part on a charity ride the other weekend - a few hundred bikes (by my estimation) and a wee ride-out at an easy pace. Before the off most folks were happy with the engines off, or idling; and once on the move a throttle blip or two. But there seems a habit now of some folks just holding the throttle open and let it bounce off the rev-limiter for minutes at a time - stationary, or rolling clutch-in. It does seem to be a party-piece for Japanese in-line fours now at motorcycle gatherings. IMHO it sounds absolutely dreadful and is plain bloody annoying. And yes, I know the boy-racers do it too in car parts in their Corsas; but given a gathering of bikes, that's one of the few things that really winds me up. Blip the throttle a few times if you really must, but quit bouncing it off the limiter and holding it there - it's not clever.

[Biker 1]

tvrolet said:

Blip the throttle a few times if you really must, but quit bouncing it off the limiter and holding it there - it's not clever.

bks!
Anyway, the Hastings May day ride out is almost upon us: its like an earthquake & haze rising above the town. Hopefully the weather will be good - can't wait!!

[neil1jnr]

Willy Nilly said:

We live on a small, densely populated island. Most people don't ride motorbikes and even less people like some dildo revving the knackers off a bike, disturbing the peace. There's a reason that cars and bikes have to pass by stander noise tests. I'd make it law than anyone caught with a noisy pipe should have a 2 stroke Detroit diesel out side there house at full load on a dyno for a couple of months to see if there opinion changes. Speed limits get reduced because of traffic noise, what do you think your noisy pipes are going to add to that debate? You have to pass db limits to do a track day, don't you?

Like speed cameras ad heavy handed speed enforcement? Keep riding or driving like tt.

What a killjoy, I'd like to call you old but that wouldn't be fair on old people.

'Disturbing the peace' at least you made me laugh

[Darkslider]

I'm at a loss here. This is a forum for petrol heads, so why are people complaining about loud engines? I quite enjoy hearing fast bikes and cars out on a sunny day, I've even gone to motorsports events just to watch and hear them in action.

I dislike the bloody church bells being rung at stupid o clock every Sunday morning, but I wouldn't go and sign up to godbotheringheads.com to rant about it. I just accept that some people make a noise doing something they enjoy and there's more important things in life to get worked up over.

[johnwilliams77]

Darkslider said:

I'm at a loss here. This is a forum for petrol heads, so why are people complaining about loud engines? I quite enjoy hearing fast bikes and cars out on a sunny day, I've even gone to motorsports events just to watch and hear them in action.

I dislike the bloody church bells being rung at stupid o clock every Sunday morning, but I wouldn't go and sign up to godbotheringheads.com to rant about it. I just accept that some people make a noise doing something they enjoy and there's more important things in life to get worked up over.

Some people believe overly loud exhausts make you look like a tool

[Jazoli]

johnwilliams77 said:

Some people believe overly loud exhausts make you look like a tool

They do, there is no need for them, I can be sat in my garden enjoying my day off and all you can hear is wkers on gixxers with stupid exhausts screaming up the A6 nearby, I can't hear any other vehicles at all at any time of day.

I have a sportsbike with an aftermarket exhaust with no baffles in but its not offensively loud, I cringe at bike meets when the chav tts with their racefit slash pipes turn up revving the nuts off the bike, they are also the ones who usually can't ride for st on the open roads .

[Dr Jekyll]

johnwilliams77 said:

Some people believe overly loud exhausts make you look like a tool

In the sense that looking like a duck and quacking like a duck make you look like a duck.

[cmaguire]

Jazoli said:

They do, there is no need for them, I can be sat in my garden enjoying my day off and all you can hear is wkers on gixxers with stupid exhausts screaming up the A6 nearby, I can't hear any other vehicles at all at any time of day.

I have a sportsbike with an aftermarket exhaust with no baffles in but its not offensively loud, I cringe at bike meets when the chav tts with their racefit slash pipes turn up revving the nuts off the bike, they are also the ones who usually can't ride for st on the open roads .

Do as I say, not as I do then.
A hypocrite.

[johnwilliams77]

Dr Jekyll said:

In the sense that looking like a duck and quacking like a duck make you look like a duck.

Or like the above poster - hanging out with ducks.

[Cbull]

So many wrong opinions on here it's crazy.

I'm guessing people are being overtook in the wrong places because they can't quite keep up with the speed. So often I come across people doing at least 10mph slower than the max speed, can be so frustrating. As someone said though, it is legal to overtake providing you stay on your side of the solid line.

Anyway, back to my beastly 125cc noisy pipe for everyone else to enjoy

[Jazoli]

cmaguire said:

Do as I say, not as I do then.
A hypocrite.

Why am I a hypocrite you knob? I said my exhaust isn't loud, it passes noise testing at some of the most restrictive tracks in the UK, which means it isn't loud at all.

[johnwilliams77]

Jazoli said:

Why am I a hypocrite you knob? I said my exhaust isn't loud, it passes noise testing at some of the most restrictive tracks in the UK, which means it isn't loud at all.

'Aftermarket exhaust'
HTH

(kidding, you're not that big of a knob, just a little knob).

[308mate]

Dr Jekyll said:

johnwilliams77 said:

Some people believe overly loud exhausts make you look like a tool

In the sense that looking like a duck and quacking like a duck make you look like a duck.

Only if the duck did twice as much as much quacking as everyone else and always through a loud-haler.

[Rawwr]

I think noisy exhausts are dreadful. So there we go.

[Gunk]

johnwilliams77 said:

Jazoli said:

Why am I a hypocrite you knob? I said my exhaust isn't loud, it passes noise testing at some of the most restrictive tracks in the UK, which means it isn't loud at all.

'Aftermarket exhaust'
HTH

(kidding, you're not that big of a knob, just a little knob).

It always starts to degenerate into name calling after about 4-5 pages.

[ajcj]

I'm amazed at the idea that people wouldn't consider their fellow man. Are we all really so inconsiderate? When I had my TVR, the start-up sounded like a small bomb going off, and the idle rattled windows. So if I was leaving home early, I would push it down the street for some distance to avoid waking the neighbours. It was downhill, so no great effort involved. Similarly, I don't rag the tits off my bike in villages. Nothing but politeness.

[Rawwr]

ajcj said:

I'm amazed at the idea that people wouldn't consider their fellow man. Are we all really so inconsiderate? When I had my TVR, the start-up sounded like a small bomb going off, and the idle rattled windows. So if I was leaving home early, I would push it down the street for some distance to avoid waking the neighbours. It was downhill, so no great effort involved. Similarly, I don't rag the tits off my bike in villages. Nothing but politeness.

Likewise. I really like my neighbours. I like all the kooky little villages I ride through. I also seem to encounter a lot of horse riders when I'm on my travels, too. For all those reasons, I stay standard.

It's only opinion but I do think that by having a noisy exhaust you are showing a certain amount of inconsideration for others.

[boyse7en]

vsonix said:

This is a separate issue and a very valid one. The Exeter-Crediton A377, for example, has now been messed with to the point where all the clear places to overtake with good sightlines have been given double whites and/or 40 limits. Then they give the poor motorist broken lines in all the most dangerous spots where it is actually totally impossible to see what's coming. So the result is if a law-abiding motorist wants to pass a tractor they must put themselves at great risk.

It's bloody awful that bit of road. I got caught out there as I hadn't ridden along in a good while and went to overtake some slow-moving traffic along a nice long, clear-sighted straight heading into Half Moon...which is now a 40mph limit

It's OK once you get past Crediton for the most part.

[Biker 1]

ajcj said:

I'm amazed at the idea that people wouldn't consider their fellow man. Are we all really so inconsiderate? When I had my TVR, the start-up sounded like a small bomb going off, and the idle rattled windows. So if I was leaving home early, I would push it down the street for some distance to avoid waking the neighbours. It was downhill, so no great effort involved. Similarly, I don't rag the tits off my bike in villages. Nothing but politeness.

I agree when its unsocial hours, like early morning or late at night, but most of the 'chavs', 'knobs' & other sundry species mentioned on these fine pages, are weekenders & more likely, Sunday afternoon blasters, so I don't really see an issue.
As others have pointed out, this is PH, so I'm surprised at the non-petrolhead views expressed here.

[Rawwr]

boxxob said:

I find your dislike of loud exhausts baffling.