The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

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Bumblebee7

1,527 posts

76 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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S2r said:
I've swapped brake light bulbs for LEDs on my bike and they're awesome but was wondering if LED headlight bulbs are really legal because of the light spread and if they'll cope with lots shaking? It's a BA20D if that's of any interest...
Not road legal but I've got LED's in both cars and bike- with no adverse affects come MOT time. Beam pattern is spot on. I do occasionally get flashed on the bike but I think that's because it's high up. Gives off loads of light and makes me a lot more visible- at the time I fitted it I noticed far fewer cars pulling out on me.

Lukas239

454 posts

97 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Anyone ever downsized their only bike? I'm considering a switch from a bike with ~90hp to ~45hp and I've tried to convince myself it's a stupid idea but cant.

Wondered if anyone had and regretted/enjoyed it.

CousinDupree

779 posts

68 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Lukas239 said:
Anyone ever downsized their only bike? I'm considering a switch from a bike with ~90hp to ~45hp and I've tried to convince myself it's a stupid idea but cant.

Wondered if anyone had and regretted/enjoyed it.
Yes and all the better for it. Nimble light bikes can be great around town / off road or pottering about, making sports / adventure bikes feel like tanks.

It depends on your expectations - and size!

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

117 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Lukas239 said:
Anyone ever downsized their only bike? I'm considering a switch from a bike with ~90hp to ~45hp and I've tried to convince myself it's a stupid idea but cant.

Wondered if anyone had and regretted/enjoyed it.
45hp seems like it would be enough for most situations. Depends on the type of riding you're doing I suppose. It's not a 12hp 125, and somehow people seem to manage on those.

Mr_Megalomaniac

859 posts

67 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Lukas239 said:
Anyone ever downsized their only bike? I'm considering a switch from a bike with ~90hp to ~45hp and I've tried to convince myself it's a stupid idea but cant.

Wondered if anyone had and regretted/enjoyed it.
Indeed. Considering it now as well. Currently the 1000cc sports tourer is great for the 50% of my commute that's on the motorway but sucks going through the city where the size and weight really start to tell. I used to be on a smaller 600cc years ago that weighed roughly 80kg less and I think a return to the streetfighter (+topbox) might be the best move.
Especially when brain dead councillors are involved: https://consultation.hackney.gov.uk/parking-servic...

Gixer968CS

605 posts

89 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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black-k1 said:
edpryce said:
black-k1 said:
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Top-boxes - the work of the devil! nono
the work of the devil is riding with the weight of a chain in a rucksack
I don't disagree. That's what tail packs are for.
Been riding bikes for 37 years and always thought top boxes looked awful and never had. Ridden sports bikes all that time until two years ago. Bought a GS1200 as I wanted something my girlfriend would be comfortable on. Anyway alos boughtthe BMW boxes and I now run all the time with a top box (I commute 60 miles a day) and my life is transformed!! The great thing about 53 is that I don't care how people think I look and having a top box just adds a whole other (fantastic) dimension to biking. Parked up and carrying kit/helmet? Nope its in the box. Groceries/wine/beer on the way home? Yep, it in the top box.....

Mr_Megalomaniac

859 posts

67 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Gixer968CS said:
Yep, it in the top box.....
Next you'll need to add the panniers on wink

Gixer968CS

605 posts

89 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Gixer968CS said:
Yep, it in the top box.....
Next you'll need to add the panniers on wink
Got 'em for touring, but no good on the commute as then I can't filter

snagzie

457 posts

61 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Lukas239 said:
Anyone ever downsized their only bike? I'm considering a switch from a bike with ~90hp to ~45hp and I've tried to convince myself it's a stupid idea but cant.

Wondered if anyone had and regretted/enjoyed it.
Yep, couple of weeks ago downsized from 170hp to 98hp (K13S to Vstrom)

Horses for courses, don't just stick with something because of power. Theres a lot to be said about being able to handle lower power more effectively, and you don't feel like you need to ride as fast!


black-k1

11,953 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Gixer968CS said:
black-k1 said:
edpryce said:
black-k1 said:
biggrin

Top-boxes - the work of the devil! nono
the work of the devil is riding with the weight of a chain in a rucksack
I don't disagree. That's what tail packs are for.
Been riding bikes for 37 years and always thought top boxes looked awful and never had. Ridden sports bikes all that time until two years ago. Bought a GS1200 as I wanted something my girlfriend would be comfortable on. Anyway alos boughtthe BMW boxes and I now run all the time with a top box (I commute 60 miles a day) and my life is transformed!! The great thing about 53 is that I don't care how people think I look and having a top box just adds a whole other (fantastic) dimension to biking. Parked up and carrying kit/helmet? Nope its in the box. Groceries/wine/beer on the way home? Yep, it in the top box.....
It's basic physics! Dynamically, the worst place to add extra weight on a motorcycle is high and behind the rear axle. Aerodynamically, the worst place to add extra drag/a flat side for cross winds on a motorcycle is high and behind the rear axle.

Where does a top-box sit?

Someone might suggest that the rider of a GS is less concerned about motorcycle dynamics and aerodynamics wink

Gixer968CS

605 posts

89 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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black-k1 said:
Gixer968CS said:
black-k1 said:
edpryce said:
black-k1 said:
biggrin

Top-boxes - the work of the devil! nono
the work of the devil is riding with the weight of a chain in a rucksack
I don't disagree. That's what tail packs are for.
Been riding bikes for 37 years and always thought top boxes looked awful and never had. Ridden sports bikes all that time until two years ago. Bought a GS1200 as I wanted something my girlfriend would be comfortable on. Anyway alos boughtthe BMW boxes and I now run all the time with a top box (I commute 60 miles a day) and my life is transformed!! The great thing about 53 is that I don't care how people think I look and having a top box just adds a whole other (fantastic) dimension to biking. Parked up and carrying kit/helmet? Nope its in the box. Groceries/wine/beer on the way home? Yep, it in the top box.....
It's basic physics! Dynamically, the worst place to add extra weight on a motorcycle is high and behind the rear axle. Aerodynamically, the worst place to add extra drag/a flat side for cross winds on a motorcycle is high and behind the rear axle.

Where does a top-box sit?

Someone might suggest that the rider of a GS is less concerned about motorcycle dynamics and aerodynamics wink
haha, all that's true of course and I hate the way it look, but it works! Obviously, I have to agree about aerodynamics on a GS, but not dynamics. It is dynamically a brilliant bike. I also own a Ducati M12R (sublime handling on a v high quality Ohlins set up, Brembo Monos etc), have owned loads of Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha sports/superbikes so lots of biking experience and the GS is a massive surprise. Obviously it doesn't ride anything like any of those, but it does ride brilliantly - lazy, grunty, comfortable, sure footed, falls in to corners, stable, confidence inspiring. Don't knock it if you haven't ridden one. P.S. loving that Kawaski!

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Black K1's bike yesterday

black-k1

11,953 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Gixer968CS said:
haha, all that's true of course and I hate the way it look, but it works! Obviously, I have to agree about aerodynamics on a GS, but not dynamics. It is dynamically a brilliant bike. I also own a Ducati M12R (sublime handling on a v high quality Ohlins set up, Brembo Monos etc), have owned loads of Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha sports/superbikes so lots of biking experience and the GS is a massive surprise. Obviously it doesn't ride anything like any of those, but it does ride brilliantly - lazy, grunty, comfortable, sure footed, falls in to corners, stable, confidence inspiring. Don't knock it if you haven't ridden one. P.S. loving that Kawaski!
I know the GS “floats the boat” for many people but it’s never delivered for me. The BMW dealer tried very hard to change my mind over the 11 years I had my K1200S/K1300S Sport/K1300 S Motorsport, regularly lending me “the latest” (at the time) GS while my bike was in for servicing, but I really didn’t get on with any them. Surprising as I love the old BMW air cooled boxers and have a 1984 R100CS sat in my shed at the moment. I also loved both my Firestorm and Futura so I’m very happy with twin cylinder “character”. – None of those bikes had a top box! biggrin


talksthetorque said:
Black K1's bike yesterday
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Way too much for me! I know my limitations! wink

Taff107

567 posts

150 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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snagzie said:
Lukas239 said:
Anyone ever downsized their only bike? I'm considering a switch from a bike with ~90hp to ~45hp and I've tried to convince myself it's a stupid idea but cant.

Wondered if anyone had and regretted/enjoyed it.
Yep, couple of weeks ago downsized from 170hp to 98hp (K13S to Vstrom)

Horses for courses, don't just stick with something because of power. Theres a lot to be said about being able to handle lower power more effectively, and you don't feel like you need to ride as fast!
Didn't downgrade as such but bought a brand spankers KTM SMC 660 to go with my R1. Soon became the favorite choice for spanking around the local roads. Loads of torque and next to no weight meant that you could throw it about like a madman. Powering out of corners with the front wheel in the air before laying it down for the corners I could go faster along a certain stretch of road than I could with the R1. Seriously miss that bike more than any I have had even though the actual power output was much, much lower.
(Don't miss kicking the bd to start though, that's for sure.....)

Lukas239

454 posts

97 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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Definitely. Summer must be right around the corner...

TheInternet

4,728 posts

164 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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My insurance stipulates I must use a D-Lock, disc lock, or chain to secure my bike. I haven't had a reason to use such things in the past and would like like some suggestions as to the best option. The bike travels between two secure locations, and I could leave a D-Locks at either end, but these would be attached through the wheel/disc only, and not secured to anything else.

Anybody have a good tip to help remember you've left a lock in place and avoid riding off with it in place? That and convenience are probably my main concerns. I have a top box to cart anything around with.

A500leroy

5,154 posts

119 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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TheInternet said:
My insurance stipulates I must use a D-Lock, disc lock, or chain to secure my bike. I haven't had a reason to use such things in the past and would like like some suggestions as to the best option. The bike travels between two secure locations, and I could leave a D-Locks at either end, but these would be attached through the wheel/disc only, and not secured to anything else.

Anybody have a good tip to help remember you've left a lock in place and avoid riding off with it in place? That and convenience are probably my main concerns. I have a top box to cart anything around with.
https://www.halfords.com/motoring/motorcycling/security/magnumplus-cyclops-disc-padlock-55-x-55-x-14mm-536166.html

If you register this with the company {follow the links on the website} they will pay your insurance excess if your bike gets nicked.

boyse7en

6,772 posts

166 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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black-k1 said:
Gixer968CS said:
black-k1 said:
edpryce said:
black-k1 said:
biggrin

Top-boxes - the work of the devil! nono
the work of the devil is riding with the weight of a chain in a rucksack
I don't disagree. That's what tail packs are for.
Been riding bikes for 37 years and always thought top boxes looked awful and never had. Ridden sports bikes all that time until two years ago. Bought a GS1200 as I wanted something my girlfriend would be comfortable on. Anyway alos boughtthe BMW boxes and I now run all the time with a top box (I commute 60 miles a day) and my life is transformed!! The great thing about 53 is that I don't care how people think I look and having a top box just adds a whole other (fantastic) dimension to biking. Parked up and carrying kit/helmet? Nope its in the box. Groceries/wine/beer on the way home? Yep, it in the top box.....
It's basic physics! Dynamically, the worst place to add extra weight on a motorcycle is high and behind the rear axle. Aerodynamically, the worst place to add extra drag/a flat side for cross winds on a motorcycle is high and behind the rear axle.

Where does a top-box sit?

Someone might suggest that the rider of a GS is less concerned about motorcycle dynamics and aerodynamics wink
I've had a top box on my F800S for about 10 years now, and never notice any ill effects on the handling or aerodynamics. Can get a weekend away clothing in there, shopping and gym kit... only time i ever really noticed any ill effects was when i bought two five litre containers of paint and several bags of nails, but i think that may have been a teensy bit overweight.

the cueball

1,204 posts

56 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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TheInternet said:
Anybody have a good tip to help remember you've left a lock in place and avoid riding off with it in place?
Most disc locks etc come with a reminder cable that you attach to the throttle.

So as long as you remember to attach it, and as long as you remember what the bright yellow/orange/pink cable is there for, you'll be fine.


talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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TheInternet said:
My insurance stipulates I must use a D-Lock, disc lock, or chain to secure my bike. I haven't had a reason to use such things in the past and would like like some suggestions as to the best option. The bike travels between two secure locations, and I could leave a D-Locks at either end, but these would be attached through the wheel/disc only, and not secured to anything else.

Anybody have a good tip to help remember you've left a lock in place and avoid riding off with it in place? That and convenience are probably my main concerns. I have a top box to cart anything around with.
Do it once! you won't forget biggrin

There are brightly coloured "reminder"cables you can buy such as this







Also there are alarmed Disklocks which will squeal as soon as you pick the bike up of it's stand or turn the bars if it's on the front