The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

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BugLebowski

1,033 posts

117 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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Kiribati268 said:
This is probably very much a dumb question!

Do all back protectors fit all jackets?

I'm not yet riding but want to sort things for before I do. I have an IXS textile jacket that has a zip at the bottom with a standard crappy foam protector velcro'd in. I've looked at getting a 'proper' one but there's nothing that says what protector fits what jacket.

When i unzip the jacket the area the protector slides into is massive, so it needs to attach somehow or it will slide around and fall diagonally. Looking around it seems most just slide in. Or will it velcro to the strap in the jacket? All the videos/write ups don't actually say how they fit.
If you can find your correct jacket on SportsBikeShop.co.uk you can click on 'ask a question' and they'll reply sharpish with the correct model and size.

Most aren't universal so you want to make sure you get the right one!

Kiribati268

570 posts

138 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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Excellent - cheers

Lukas239

454 posts

97 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Does anyone know what defines a 'garage' for bike insurance purposes? Because I don't and apparently neither does Google

bogie

16,394 posts

273 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Lukas239 said:
Does anyone know what defines a 'garage' for bike insurance purposes? Because I don't and apparently neither does Google
Most often has to be a brick built secure building i.e. lockable door.

About 8 years ago was going to move my bike into my workshop, which is a timber stable, with secure doors, concrete floor etc, but a few insurance companies would not cover it as a garage as it was timber. May have changed now, but certainly check with your insurer.

samdy

207 posts

73 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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As above, depends on the insurer. I'm with Hastings and they count a timber structure with concrete or paved floor as a garage.

A500leroy

5,136 posts

119 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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most are happy with a concrete base and whatever structure on top, but its best to call them.

Biker 1

7,741 posts

120 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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What sort of difference in price of insurance are we talking: bike in garage overnight or sat on driveway with approved lock/chain & a cover?

Pizzaeatingking

493 posts

72 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Biker 1 said:
What sort of difference in price of insurance are we talking: bike in garage overnight or sat on driveway with approved lock/chain & a cover?
Depends on location. In a big city, probably a big difference but out in the sticks not much.

Lukas239

454 posts

97 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Biker 1 said:
What sort of difference in price of insurance are we talking: bike in garage overnight or sat on driveway with approved lock/chain & a cover?
quite significant for me, hence the above question. I keep mine in the back garden but insurers technically call that a 'driveway' so garage is a better option.

Pete-mojsh

355 posts

97 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Excellent just the thread I need.....

My bike should finally be arriving this week, MT 125 to use while all the tests are still cancelled and learn to ride until I can get the DAS done, I've sorted pretty much all the riding gear, there's a couple of jobs to do on the bike when it arrives but nothing major and shouldn't cause any issues, I have a Haynes manual as well. I do however have a few maintenance questions;

Chain cleaner and lube, what one? I've looked at motul and tru tension kits as they have both and a brush, opinions on what to use seem very subjective.

Brake cleaner, similar to the above.

I have loads of cleaning stuff for the car (snow foam, shampoo, various removers for tar and brake dust, wax etc) but bikes seem to be quite different, although naked most of it is plastic, I would expect frame, fasteners etc would benefit from some sealing?

It will be living outside so I have a chain, will install a ground anchor, get a cover and probably a disc lock alarm. I'm in a decent spot with mixed use fire and police station round the corner but it seems sensible.

I think I'll get a health check st a local mechanic for some piece of mind, will see how I feel about the tyres once I've done a few miles and replace if necessary.

Anything else worth getting? I have a Halfords trade card and there is one 10 minutes away so probably where I'll be going.

Speed addicted

5,576 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Pete-mojsh said:
Excellent just the thread I need.....

My bike should finally be arriving this week, MT 125 to use while all the tests are still cancelled and learn to ride until I can get the DAS done, I've sorted pretty much all the riding gear, there's a couple of jobs to do on the bike when it arrives but nothing major and shouldn't cause any issues, I have a Haynes manual as well. I do however have a few maintenance questions;

Chain cleaner and lube, what one? I've looked at motul and tru tension kits as they have both and a brush, opinions on what to use seem very subjective.

Brake cleaner, similar to the above.

I have loads of cleaning stuff for the car (snow foam, shampoo, various removers for tar and brake dust, wax etc) but bikes seem to be quite different, although naked most of it is plastic, I would expect frame, fasteners etc would benefit from some sealing?

It will be living outside so I have a chain, will install a ground anchor, get a cover and probably a disc lock alarm. I'm in a decent spot with mixed use fire and police station round the corner but it seems sensible.

I think I'll get a health check st a local mechanic for some piece of mind, will see how I feel about the tyres once I've done a few miles and replace if necessary.

Anything else worth getting? I have a Halfords trade card and there is one 10 minutes away so probably where I'll be going.
Any chain cleaner is fine, I use a 3 sided brush like this https://www.demon-tweeks.com/warrior-chain-cleanin...
to scrub off the worst crap.
For chain lube I generally use Wurth dry lube, I find the waxes tend to fling off.

Brake cleaner, but whatever is handy. They’re all just a solvent cleaner.

Cleaning I use Muck off bike cleaner or Autoglym motorcycle cleaner on the engine/frame etc and car stuff on the painted parts.
If it’s living outside a light coating of ACF50 on the metal parts is worth it, doesn’t need to be professionally applied as it’s just a spray can, I find a spray then spread out with a brush works well.

Best to anchor the bike, not sure if I’d bother with a disc loc alarm but more stuff is usually better than less stuff.

While you’re at the mechanic ask them to show you how to adjust the chain and do any other checks they would do regularly.
Also remember to check the oil regularly, smaller engines can use more than you would expect so it should be something you do out of habit.


Edited by Speed addicted on Monday 22 June 08:47

airsafari87

2,599 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Speed addicted said:
If it’s living outside a light coating of ACF50 on the metal parts is worth it, doesn’t need to be professionally applied as it’s just a spray can, I find a spray then spread out with a brush works well.
Edited by Speed addicted on Monday 22 June 08:47
Just to add to the above.

If you do use ACF50, make sure you keep it off the brake calipers, discs, tyres and hand & foot controls.



Pete-mojsh

355 posts

97 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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airsafari87 said:
Just to add to the above.

If you do use ACF50, make sure you keep it off the brake calipers, discs, tyres and hand & foot controls.
There do seem to be a few methods, will probably just bag everything up but will get it nice and clean before applying.

WinstonR

130 posts

81 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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For chain lube use gear oil; everything else is just a gimmick.

Speed addicted

5,576 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Pete-mojsh said:
There do seem to be a few methods, will probably just bag everything up but will get it nice and clean before applying.
Just remember that you really don’t need much!
The first time I used it I had a purple puddle under the bike and a smokescreen when I started it

airsafari87

2,599 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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WinstonR said:
For chain lube use gear oil; everything else is just a gimmick.
Not true.

Although I use gear oil myself it would be wrong to say that all these other chain lubes are just a gimmick.

What they are is an alternative.

Speed addicted

5,576 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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airsafari87 said:
WinstonR said:
For chain lube use gear oil; everything else is just a gimmick.
Not true.

Although I use gear oil myself it would be wrong to say that all these other chain lubes are just a gimmick.

What they are is an alternative.
I’d agree with the alternative, as long as you remember that chain lubes main job is to stop your chain rusting then you’re all good.
The actual lubrication is sealed into the links in the first place.
Wurth dry lube is good as it protective and doesn’t fling like chain wax or gear oil.

crofty1984

Original Poster:

15,873 posts

205 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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airsafari87 said:
Speed addicted said:
If it’s living outside a light coating of ACF50 on the metal parts is worth it, doesn’t need to be professionally applied as it’s just a spray can, I find a spray then spread out with a brush works well.
Edited by Speed addicted on Monday 22 June 08:47
Just to add to the above.

If you do use ACF50, make sure you keep it off the brake calipers, discs, tyres and hand & foot controls.
ACF50 is great. Only downside is dirt sticks to it. Still worth it though IMO.
When it comes to chain lube I'm a bit of a heathen and use either silicone spray or clean engine oil.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Speed addicted said:
I’d agree with the alternative, as long as you remember that chain lubes main job is to stop your chain rusting then you’re all good.
The actual lubrication is sealed into the links in the first place.
Wurth dry lube is good as it protective and doesn’t fling like chain wax or gear oil.
“Lubrication into links”? What do you mean?

O/X-rings have a tiny splash of grease when they’re new, only on their inner edge. That lasts as long as you expect I.e. it doesn’t.

The priority isn’t “rust prevention”, it’s keeping the chain moving freely, surely?







Pete-mojsh

355 posts

97 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Have I unwittingly started a debate on lube?