The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

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Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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Should be able to anchor them to the passenger footpeg whatsits, thanks for the tips smile

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Friday 6th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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I agree, it’s not cheap stuff but it’s all very well thought out and lasts ages. I still have a US20 tailback that must be 15+ years old. Still waterproof, still works as it should.

Bob_Defly

3,678 posts

231 months

Friday 6th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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Have a look at the Klim Nac Pack too, I use one for dirt biking and it's really good.

Edited by Bob_Defly on Saturday 7th August 16:34

Amused2death

2,493 posts

196 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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My turn for a "dumb" question....

I don't think the screen on my FZ6 has been cleaned since the day it was first sold, giving it a clean has made little difference, it's as if all the fly detritus on there has eaten into the perspex.

How can I get rid of it and bring it back to near normal?

Thanks biggrin

Jazoli

9,100 posts

250 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Amused2death said:
My turn for a "dumb" question....

I don't think the screen on my FZ6 has been cleaned since the day it was first sold, giving it a clean has made little difference, it's as if all the fly detritus on there has eaten into the perspex.

How can I get rid of it and bring it back to near normal?

Thanks biggrin
Buy a new one, they are only 30 quid or so on ebay.

Amused2death

2,493 posts

196 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Cheers all smile

Looks like just changing it is the easiest option.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Amused2death said:
Cheers all smile

Looks like just changing it is the easiest option.
It is until you break a fixing changing it,(don't ask me how I know) so have some handy.

Tango13

8,436 posts

176 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Amused2death said:
My turn for a "dumb" question....

I don't think the screen on my FZ6 has been cleaned since the day it was first sold, giving it a clean has made little difference, it's as if all the fly detritus on there has eaten into the perspex.

How can I get rid of it and bring it back to near normal?

Thanks biggrin
Polish it with toothpaste.

The plastic headlight covers on my old BMW car would polish up a treat with a bit of Aquafresh 3 on kitchen roll and some elbow grease.

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

201 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Why don't motorcycles have self adjusting tappets like cars do ?

I haven't checked and adjusted the valve clearances on a car since my Triumph Spitfire eons ago - and I don't think the rocker/cam cover has had to be removed on any car I've owned for the last 20 years or so.

Why is it different for bikes ? Particularly so since access issues often make it a pain even if you're confident enough in your spannering skills to DIY.

Please don't tell me its about protecting dealer revenues .....

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Some bikes don't have shim & bucket arrangements, Harley's, Buells, I read some Moto Guzzis. Lower RPM engines.

I read it's because the very high RPM typical of motorcycle engines makes the engineering of them considerably more difficult. Motorcycle technology also seems to move much slower than cars, so "if it aint broke".

I've also heard there's often packaging issues, but not sure about that one.

ETA: I would think it's a job a dealer would hate so doubt they have an interest. Aside from it being a fiddly job, it should always be done on a stone cold engine, so they should in theory have the bike overnight, which is a total faff for them.


Edited by Prof Prolapse on Tuesday 10th August 11:02

tvrolet

4,274 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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As above - rpm of typical bike motors and size. Not having to adjust the valves is due to hydraulic lifters. They're typically little cylinders with a piston inside with a hole at the side that's linked into the high pressure oil feed. They go somewhere between the cam and the valve and move up and down within the valve train - in US style OHV V8s they're in the block at the bottom of the pushrods, in OHC engines they're in the heads. Basically the oil pressure 'pumps up' the wee piston in the lifter to take up the clearance, which is why you can sometimes get a rattly startup. Certainly the lifters from a 'mercan V8 are fairly weighty objects, a bit larger diameter then a lipstick but maybe a bit shorter. You certainly wouldn't want them flying up and down at seriously high revs. Obviously a smaller engine will have smaller lifters but still it's an extra piece of reciprocating weight in the valvetrain, and probably extra height in an OHV motor plus more complexity in the valvetrain and oil feeds...so not great for a high revving [relatively] small capacity engine.

My humble Indian has hydraulic lifters, and so no valve adjustments but they're in the block (a la V8) as it's just an OHV motor, plus it's red-lined at about 5,500 rpm by virtue of bloody great pistons flying around so any extra mass/inertia in the valve train really isn't a problem. Think yourself lucky you're not having to adjust clearances on a Ducati desmo motor - you've got clearances for both opening AND closing the valves.

gareth_r

5,728 posts

237 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Prof Prolapse said:
Some bikes don't have shim & bucket arrangements, Harley's, Buells, I read some Moto Guzzis. Lower RPM engines.

I read it's because the very high RPM typical of motorcycle engines makes the engineering of them considerably more difficult. Motorcycle technology also seems to move much slower than cars, so "if it aint broke".

I've also heard there's often packaging issues, but not sure about that one.

ETA: I would think it's a job a dealer would hate so doubt they have an interest. Aside from it being a fiddly job, it should always be done on a stone cold engine, so they should in theory have the bike overnight, which is a total faff for them.
Harleys, including the new DOHC engine, have hydraulic cam followers.

gareth_r

5,728 posts

237 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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tvrolet said:
As above - rpm of typical bike motors and size. Not having to adjust the valves is due to hydraulic lifters. They're typically little cylinders with a piston inside with a hole at the side that's linked into the high pressure oil feed. They go somewhere between the cam and the valve and move up and down within the valve train - in US style OHV V8s they're in the block at the bottom of the pushrods, in OHC engines they're in the heads. Basically the oil pressure 'pumps up' the wee piston in the lifter to take up the clearance, which is why you can sometimes get a rattly startup. Certainly the lifters from a 'mercan V8 are fairly weighty objects, a bit larger diameter then a lipstick but maybe a bit shorter. You certainly wouldn't want them flying up and down at seriously high revs. Obviously a smaller engine will have smaller lifters but still it's an extra piece of reciprocating weight in the valvetrain, and probably extra height in an OHV motor plus more complexity in the valvetrain and oil feeds...so not great for a high revving [relatively] small capacity engine.

My humble Indian has hydraulic lifters, and so no valve adjustments but they're in the block (a la V8) as it's just an OHV motor, plus it's red-lined at about 5,500 rpm by virtue of bloody great pistons flying around so any extra mass/inertia in the valve train really isn't a problem. Think yourself lucky you're not having to adjust clearances on a Ducati desmo motor - you've got clearances for both opening AND closing the valves.
Did you intend to write "extra height in an OHC motor"?

ZetecTDCI

121 posts

43 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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Suspect cost has a lot to do with it. The honda cbx750 had hydraulic tappets iirc.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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Anyone want some earplugs? It's one of the Amazon selection bags you can get.

Couple missing, I got to the Howard Leight greens and bought a box of 200!


horsemeatscandal

1,238 posts

104 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Just found myself in a situation where I had to brake very hard (I actually ended up going into the back of a van, but thankfully I'd slowed almost to a stop by then). I noticed the brake fluid reservoir had weeped slightly and when I got it home the screws weren't very tight at all. Surely that's not right? I've tightened it up but just wanted to make sure there isn't a risk of over tightening (within reason)?

RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Brake reservoirs are usually made of some kind of metal with a hardness similar to vintage cheddar, so you do need to be careful about over tightening them as you can strip the threads quite easily.

If it's been leaking, bear in mind that brake fluid is pretty nasty stuff and will damage paintwork and plastics so make sure it's cleaned up properly. Brake fluid is also hygroscopic, if fluid can get out that probably means water can get in. I'd be tempted to give it a brake fluid change, and depending on how loose the lid was, maybe replace the seal.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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horsemeatscandal said:
Just found myself in a situation where I had to brake very hard (I actually ended up going into the back of a van, but thankfully I'd slowed almost to a stop by then). I noticed the brake fluid reservoir had weeped slightly and when I got it home the screws weren't very tight at all. Surely that's not right? I've tightened it up but just wanted to make sure there isn't a risk of over tightening (within reason)?
Be careful not to strip the threads, but your braking is not dependent on the lid being screwed down hard. There’s a cylinder that pushes the fluid into the brake lines, it’s not pressurizing the reservoir.

The reasons for having it nicely sealed is to stop the fluid spilling and to reduce moisture getting into it.

horsemeatscandal

1,238 posts

104 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Thanks both. I have a feeling the seal might have went now, having had a bit more of a think/look. Unusual though as it's only 5 month old. I'll keep an eye and get it changed of needs be.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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horsemeatscandal said:
Thanks both. I have a feeling the seal might have went now, having had a bit more of a think/look. Unusual though as it's only 5 month old. I'll keep an eye and get it changed of needs be.
They cost little, and are only a minute’s work to replace. I’ve never had one fail, though.

If it’s been unsealed for a while then you should probably bleed your brakes to put some fresh fluid through them.