Fireblade burned leg syndrome

[MotorsportTom]

Angrybiker said:

black-k1 said:

papa3 said:

Loyly said:

A good slide down the road in shorts will probably leave enough scarring so that you won't feel your flesh burning near a hot exhaust in future. Not a short term solution though.

^ This exactly. Astonishes me to see shorts/no gloves/trainers on any bike.

Because having an accident while wearing long trousers is completely safe!

If (and only IF) ALL the gear you wear (all the time) is fully CE level 2 or 3 approved, your helmet has 5 stars from SHARP, you hold a number of advanced riding qualifications and never ride in a way that might slightly increase the risk to you or any other road user will you be in a position to comment on/criticize how others manage their own risk.

Exactly. Enough sanctimonious bullst please. You're not talking to a 16 year olds here.

In any event, since everyone seems dead set on talking about everything in the world except whether they have the same problem and what they did or did not do to mitigate it, I'll presume that no one has anything constructive to contribute and I'll move on.

I fking hate people telling others how to manage their risk level.

I shudder at the the though people choose to wear shorts/flip flops/trainers or whatever else they want too on a bike but if it's not the law then personal choice comes into play.

If it was which religion to follow because one is better than another, or to not swim because you might drown, or to not drive a car without a nomex suit because you may be caught in a fireball everyone would tell you to get fked for being so ridiculous.

OP I was going to suggest the same as Castex if it really is a big problem then look at ceramic coating the exhaust.
Exhaust wrap is a cheaper scabbier alternative however.

Oh and ride whatever you want to when you do

[Angrybiker]

Aha, thanks a lot Tom, and sorry for missing the original suggestion Castrex. Any ideas where I can get a quote on that?

I expect it would be useful in the winter, but I am already on tippy toes with my short legs, and the heat is reaching right up my thigh as well. It's quite uncomfortable on days like this, and my SMX + boots like to store the heat as well. They were pretty sweaty after the commute this morning. I'd go get some summer boots but then those would be less of a barrier to the heat!

[Birky_41]

Darkslider said:

Angrybiker said:

Very occasionally, on a hot summer's day, going only a few miles down the road on traffic roads and only at low speed. Gimme a break and start talking about the subject at hand, if you please

I'm in the same camp as you. To get from my house to my parents is a couple of miles of slow moving town roads with nothing higher than a 30 limit. I can ride this in lycra shorts and top on my bicycle, and for the most part can meet or exceed the 30 mph limit along with the passing cars and filtering that it entails and nobody bats an eyelid.

Yet if I undertake the exact same journey on my much bigger, noisier and safer GSXR, wearing shorts and a t shirt everyone loses their minds.

Lycra shorts and gsxr... I'm seeing a pattern here

[Birky_41]

Angrybiker said:

Aha, thanks a lot Tom, and sorry for missing the original suggestion Castrex. Any ideas where I can get a quote on that?

I expect it would be useful in the winter, but I am already on tippy toes with my short legs, and the heat is reaching right up my thigh as well. It's quite uncomfortable on days like this, and my SMX + boots like to store the heat as well. They were pretty sweaty after the commute this morning. I'd go get some summer boots but then those would be less of a barrier to the heat!

It's a tricky one as it's hard to get the heat away without just moving it to another area. As already said I think a decent job of heat wrapping would help

I've noticed going from an 800 triple that ran quite hot to an 1100 vee four has got my legs alot hotter. I pretty much always have leathers on as it's normally a fast knee down willy waving ride but even in just jeans going to a biker pub I've found them get hot

Honestly I don't know of a solution but feel your pain... Literally

[Mr2Mike]

cmaguire said:

Freedom of choice here peaked about 30 years ago. Ever since they've been claiming it has been increasing, when it very much appears to me that the exact opposite has been happening.

Freedom of choice vs. Political Correctness.
There's only going to be one winner.

Nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness. It's freedom of choice vs common sense.

[308mate]

Mr2Mike said:

cmaguire said:

Freedom of choice here peaked about 30 years ago. Ever since they've been claiming it has been increasing, when it very much appears to me that the exact opposite has been happening.

Freedom of choice vs. Political Correctness.
There's only going to be one winner.

Nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness. It's freedom of choice vs common sense.

Its nothing to do with common sense. Common sense would be if I tried to claim that coming off without full safety gear would NOT result in more injury. I acknowledge the increased severity of injury without correct safety gear. But a risk matrix considers consequences of an occurrence against likelihood of if actually happening and I deem that I can mitigate the increase in consequence by reducing the likelihood of the occurence i.e. not ride in shorts on a race track but a t-shirt to the beach and back is ok.

I remember when Australian bike cops used to wear short sleeve cotton shirts on their Pan Europeans

[Angrybiker]

308mate said:

Mr2Mike said:

cmaguire said:

Freedom of choice here peaked about 30 years ago. Ever since they've been claiming it has been increasing, when it very much appears to me that the exact opposite has been happening.

Freedom of choice vs. Political Correctness.
There's only going to be one winner.

Nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness. It's freedom of choice vs common sense.

Its nothing to do with common sense. Common sense would be if I tried to claim that coming off without full safety gear would NOT result in more injury. I acknowledge the increased severity of injury without correct safety gear. But a risk matrix considers consequences of an occurrence against likelihood of if actually happening and I deem that I can mitigate the increase in consequence by reducing the likelihood of the occurence i.e. not ride in shorts on a race track but a t-shirt to the beach and back is ok.

I remember when Australian bike cops used to wear short sleeve cotton shirts on their Pan Europeans

This.
Plus, anyone who has never experienced the joy of shorts on a hot summer day with the wind around the nads, seriously needs to remove broomstick from arse.

[rev-erend]

Just change in to some better clothing

[308mate]

rev-erend said:

Just change in to some better clothing

The uniform of Biker Banter.

[EagleMoto4-2]

Angrybiker said:

308mate said:

Mr2Mike said:

cmaguire said:

Freedom of choice here peaked about 30 years ago. Ever since they've been claiming it has been increasing, when it very much appears to me that the exact opposite has been happening.

Freedom of choice vs. Political Correctness.
There's only going to be one winner.

Nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness. It's freedom of choice vs common sense.

Its nothing to do with common sense. Common sense would be if I tried to claim that coming off without full safety gear would NOT result in more injury. I acknowledge the increased severity of injury without correct safety gear. But a risk matrix considers consequences of an occurrence against likelihood of if actually happening and I deem that I can mitigate the increase in consequence by reducing the likelihood of the occurence i.e. not ride in shorts on a race track but a t-shirt to the beach and back is ok.

I remember when Australian bike cops used to wear short sleeve cotton shirts on their Pan Europeans

This.
Plus, anyone who has never experienced the joy of shorts on a hot summer day with the wind around the nads, seriously needs to remove broomstick from arse.

You might not care but your family, bystanders, ambulance crew, nurses/surgeons at the hospital certainly will when they are scraping up bits of your legs from between the aggregate that makes up the tarmac or trying to patch what remains of your legs back together with skin grafts they have taken from your back and/or buttocks, taking you to an from hospital from the number of operations you would likely need and tending to your scarred legs.
Graphic I know but tarmac is like sandpaper when your fragile skin is thrown onto it at speed with the momentum of you plus perhaps a heavy bike pushing down onto it.

[Rutter]

Have you considered chaps?

[Jazoli]

EagleMoto4-2 said:

You might not care but your family, bystanders, ambulance crew, nurses/surgeons at the hospital certainly will when they are scraping up bits of your legs from between the aggregate that makes up the tarmac or trying to patch what remains of your legs back together with skin grafts they have taken from your back and/or buttocks, taking you to an from hospital from the number of operations you would likely need and tending to your scarred legs.
Graphic I know but tarmac is like sandpaper when your fragile skin is thrown onto it at speed with the momentum of you plus perhaps a heavy bike pushing down onto it.

This isn't mumsnet you know, we are all grownups here and are well aware of the injuries that may occur IF you fall off, I once rode my FZR Exup at 165mph for 10 miles in shorts and t shirt and a pisspot helmet and shades, guess what? I didn't die, although hitting bugs was a bit painful on the knees.

I think the chaps idea is the best solution, you can leave them draped over your bike when in the pub so cats and dogs will piss on them, you'll soon acquire that hardcore biker smell

[black-k1]

EagleMoto4-2 said:

Angrybiker said:

308mate said:

Mr2Mike said:

cmaguire said:

Freedom of choice here peaked about 30 years ago. Ever since they've been claiming it has been increasing, when it very much appears to me that the exact opposite has been happening.

Freedom of choice vs. Political Correctness.
There's only going to be one winner.

Nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness. It's freedom of choice vs common sense.

Its nothing to do with common sense. Common sense would be if I tried to claim that coming off without full safety gear would NOT result in more injury. I acknowledge the increased severity of injury without correct safety gear. But a risk matrix considers consequences of an occurrence against likelihood of if actually happening and I deem that I can mitigate the increase in consequence by reducing the likelihood of the occurence i.e. not ride in shorts on a race track but a t-shirt to the beach and back is ok.

I remember when Australian bike cops used to wear short sleeve cotton shirts on their Pan Europeans

This.
Plus, anyone who has never experienced the joy of shorts on a hot summer day with the wind around the nads, seriously needs to remove broomstick from arse.

You might not care but your family, bystanders, ambulance crew, nurses/surgeons at the hospital certainly will when they are scraping up bits of your legs from between the aggregate that makes up the tarmac or trying to patch what remains of your legs back together with skin grafts they have taken from your back and/or buttocks, taking you to an from hospital from the number of operations you would likely need and tending to your scarred legs.
Graphic I know but tarmac is like sandpaper when your fragile skin is thrown onto it at speed with the momentum of you plus perhaps a heavy bike pushing down onto it.

Genuine question.

Why do you ride a motorcycle? It's by far the most dangerous form of transport on UK roads. "Common sense" would/should/does tell you that you should not ride a motorcycle if you are concerned about potentially life changing or life threatening events.

[Dakkon]

black-k1 said:

EagleMoto4-2 said:

Angrybiker said:

308mate said:

Mr2Mike said:

cmaguire said:

Freedom of choice here peaked about 30 years ago. Ever since they've been claiming it has been increasing, when it very much appears to me that the exact opposite has been happening.

Freedom of choice vs. Political Correctness.
There's only going to be one winner.

Nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness. It's freedom of choice vs common sense.

Its nothing to do with common sense. Common sense would be if I tried to claim that coming off without full safety gear would NOT result in more injury. I acknowledge the increased severity of injury without correct safety gear. But a risk matrix considers consequences of an occurrence against likelihood of if actually happening and I deem that I can mitigate the increase in consequence by reducing the likelihood of the occurence i.e. not ride in shorts on a race track but a t-shirt to the beach and back is ok.

I remember when Australian bike cops used to wear short sleeve cotton shirts on their Pan Europeans

This.
Plus, anyone who has never experienced the joy of shorts on a hot summer day with the wind around the nads, seriously needs to remove broomstick from arse.

You might not care but your family, bystanders, ambulance crew, nurses/surgeons at the hospital certainly will when they are scraping up bits of your legs from between the aggregate that makes up the tarmac or trying to patch what remains of your legs back together with skin grafts they have taken from your back and/or buttocks, taking you to an from hospital from the number of operations you would likely need and tending to your scarred legs.
Graphic I know but tarmac is like sandpaper when your fragile skin is thrown onto it at speed with the momentum of you plus perhaps a heavy bike pushing down onto it.

Genuine question.

Why do you ride a motorcycle? It's by far the most dangerous form of transport on UK roads. "Common sense" would/should/does tell you that you should not ride a motorcycle if you are concerned about potentially life changing or life threatening events.

You are 38 times more likely to die in a bike accident than a car accident just to cheer everyone up

[Renn Sport]

Angrybiker said:

Very occasionally, on a hot summer's day, going only a few miles down the road on traffic roads and only at low speed. Gimme a break and start talking about the subject at hand, if you please

Seriously just heat wrap your calf. You'll be fine.

Or ride faster and get a breeze going..

[Angrybiker]

EagleMoto4-2 said:

You might not care but your family, bystanders, ambulance crew, nurses/surgeons at the hospital certainly will when they are scraping up bits of your legs from between the aggregate that makes up the tarmac or trying to patch what remains of your legs back together with skin grafts they have taken from your back and/or buttocks, taking you to an from hospital from the number of operations you would likely need and tending to your scarred legs.
Graphic I know but tarmac is like sandpaper when your fragile skin is thrown onto it at speed with the momentum of you plus perhaps a heavy bike pushing down onto it.

Again. Adult. 20 years commuting right across London twice a day all year round in all weathers so likely a lot more experience than most. Also very well versed in risk management which is a big part of my very well paid job. Also have seen all the videos and know all the theory that you do. Also come off a few times in my earlier years. Appreciate the motherly concern but really not necessary. Preach to the newbies please and leave me to manage my own risks.

[Moulder]

I have a vague recollection of a question a few pages back that the below may answer (with legs non-exhaust side).



Obviously I am in no way condoning riding dressed like that, then again it is her life, but perhaps a jacket, then again that would make it harder to see her thrupenny bits, well at least she has gloves on. And boots.

[Renn Sport]

I had a 2013 Blade and actually used to live in Kingston and even in the hottest weather never had this issue. Ever! While my friends on Ducati's and Big Bang R1's would flipping melt.

However I must say I had the Akrapovic titanium exhaust... then again I always rode with jeans or leathers (please don't shoot me).

Perhaps the suggestion of wearing some trousers (not for your safety mind) isn't such a bad idea? Or get a better exhaust? I recommend the titanium Akrapovic for obvious reasons.

[Birky_41]

Rutter said:

Have you considered chaps?

Mine have Velcro patches for knee sliders but always go down well at the bike meet...

[Rawwr]

Birky_41 said:

always go down well at the bike meet...

You must be very popular