5 bike thefts overnight in Acid attacks.

[hairyben]

creampuff said:

Would not bother me at all if that happened. OTOH if they did come off and end up eating their own acid when it spills on them and if they come off while being chased by a copper:

Then the copper can expect to be thoroughly investigated by the IPCC. This investigation may last for several years, even if nothing ultimately comes of it. The copper may face several years of job insecurity and threat of criminal prosecution.

The last moped thug to kill themselves while running from the police was in 2014. The police involved are still being criminally investigated.

This is why things will not get any better.

You just know when the next turd that smears himself up the road running from the cops that d abbott will be one of the first clamouring onto the blame-the-police bandwagon

[gareth_r]

WaferThinHam said:

Currently two arrested. One bailed, the other remanded and charged with 15 offences up to GBH with intent. Due in court tomorrow. Hopefully they'll make an example of him due to the media coverage.

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-07-15/teenage-boy-on-...

If they were serious about tackling this, a charge of "wounding with intent" would be a good start.

[tezzer]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-406244...

That's the way to do it, 2 large knives recovered at the scene of the accident.

[998420]

tezzer said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-406244...

That's the way to do it, 2 large knives recovered at the scene of the accident.

Just wait the ****storm about "Police murder".. "promising young footballers" "we need an enquiry" etc..

Then look at the POS armed robber they just caught up north and the **it trying to excuse him, accuse the have a go heroes of murder!

[Harji]

Those drivers unable to work now, I wonder how those delivery companies are treating them, they off course operate on a don't give a st basis.

[dudleybloke]

The headline should read "3 armed robbers run from police, one won't do it again".

[Dromedary66]

tezzer said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-406244...

That's the way to do it, 2 large knives recovered at the scene of the accident.

Excellent, hope he dies and the other two are crippled for life.

[hyphen]

They are 16 year old kids who have not had a good upbringing and have gone bad, whilst you want them stopped from crime for good, your statement is a bit tough...

Puzzled as to why they didn't chase, but only used Helicopters to position a car ahead- could they not do chase and track overhead? Seeing it is 3am when minimal pedestrians are about.

[James_B]

hyphen said:

They are 16 year old kids who have not had a good upbringing and have gone bad, whilst you want them stopped from crime for good, your statement is a bit tough...

Puzzled as to why they didn't chase, but only used Helicopters to position a car ahead- could they not do chase and track overhead? Seeing it is 3am when minimal pedestrians are about.

It's policy not to chase, which is of course why scooters are so popular for use in crimes.

It's possible of course that the sort of person who does this would grow up to be a nice and productive person, but it doesn't seem likely. Having had five stolen in recent years I'm not going to be overly concerned if a few people start getting maimed while making off on them. You know right and wrong by that age, and while it'd not be a positive move if the state started having death squads, you can still not mind much if a criminal ends up having his legs destroyed while riding a stolen bike.

[catso]

Dromedary66 said:

Excellent, hope he dies and the other two are crippled for life.

Hopefully the 'loss' of 3 stbags will reduce crime levels by a considerable amount.

[Richyboy]

hyphen said:

They are 16 year old kids who have not had a good upbringing and have gone bad, whilst you want them stopped from crime for good, your statement is a bit tough...

Puzzled as to why they didn't chase, but only used Helicopters to position a car ahead- could they not do chase and track overhead? Seeing it is 3am when minimal pedestrians are about.

A lot of people have bad upbringings but don't resort to this nonsense though. My childhood was so bad I didn't start learning to read until I was nearly 16. I think they need to start making the parents (or should I say probably single parents) responsible for their kids until they're adults.

[CoolHands]

whoops

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/teenage-boy-1...

hope the copper is ok x

edit - yes I should read the thread before posting

[Fleegle]

hyphen said:

They are 16 year old kids who have not had a good upbringing and have gone bad, whilst you want them stopped from crime for good, your statement is a bit tough...

Puzzled as to why they didn't chase, but only used Helicopters to position a car ahead- could they not do chase and track overhead? Seeing it is 3am when minimal pedestrians are about.

And this is the problem.

I no longer give a flying fk if some punk with a poor upbringing flouts the rules because tits will always say they had a bad upbringing

However when I deal with that sthead myself, I'm the bad guy

So, I catch the guy in the act trying to steal my bike in the act of using an angle grinder on my disc lock, overpower him and make sure his gloves never fit again

Who is the bad guy?

[creampuff]

hyphen said:

They are 16 year old kids who have not had a good upbringing and have gone bad, whilst you want them stopped from crime for good, your statement is a bit tough...

In the general case of criminals getting hurt while committing crimes:

No sympathy. You can sometimes excuse crimes against property, if someone is young, dumb and had a poor upbringing. Crimes against the person are an absolute- even trailer park trash know it is bad, but they do it because they are bad, not just because of a poor upbringing. Violent crime is inexcusable. These criminals went out with knives; they weren't looking for crimes against property, they were looking to do harm. Those 16yo are not as injured as their victim could be, so fk them.

Edited by creampuff on Monday 17th July 08:47

[Pothole]

Fleegle said:

hyphen said:

They are 16 year old kids who have not had a good upbringing and have gone bad, whilst you want them stopped from crime for good, your statement is a bit tough...

Puzzled as to why they didn't chase, but only used Helicopters to position a car ahead- could they not do chase and track overhead? Seeing it is 3am when minimal pedestrians are about.

And this is the problem.

I no longer give a flying fk if some punk with a poor upbringing flouts the rules because tits will always say they had a bad upbringing

However when I deal with that sthead myself, I'm the bad guy

So, I catch the guy in the act trying to steal my bike in the act of using an angle grinder on my disc lock, overpower him and make sure his gloves never fit again

Who is the bad guy?

You. As well you know. The concept of justice in a civilised society does not include inflicting life changing injuries on someone because you choose to play judge, jury and executioner.

[creampuff]

Pothole said:

You. As well you know. The concept of justice in a civilised society does not include inflicting life changing injuries on someone because you choose to play judge, jury and executioner.

In the case of the youths in OP;
They did not get injured as punishment. They got injured because they chose to try to evade arrest after having committed a crime and while armed and prepared to do harm to others. That's why they were injured. No sympathy. fk them. By their own actions they got nothing more then they were prepared to inflict on their victims. Their victims after being subject to a knife attack won't be enjoying a long and peaceful life. So like I said: fk them.

Edited by creampuff on Monday 17th July 08:48

[Moulder]

From the (London) Metro today. Seems to cover the whole spectrum.

Good on the bloke with the hammer, but based on the story above seems if he'd ended up with a slashed face the perpetrator would have received around 18 months detention, which isn't much of a deterrent or particularly tough on crime.

[tezzer]

Fleegle said:

So, I catch the guy in the act trying to steal my bike in the act of using an angle grinder on my disc lock, overpower him and make sure his gloves never fit again

THIS would be my reaction, "sorry, in the struggle to stop him, his battery powered angle grinder accidentally ran over his fingers".

[creampuff]

^ Just as the police can face years of investigation if low life criminals injure themselves, you also can expect your actions to be examined in the minutest detail if anyone is injured.

[Pothole]

creampuff said:

Pothole said:

You. As well you know. The concept of justice in a civilised society does not include inflicting life changing injuries on someone because you choose to play judge, jury and executioner.

They did not get injured as punishment. They got injured because they chose to try to evade arrest after having committed a crime and while armed and prepared to do harm to others. That's why they were injured. No sympathy. fk them. By their own actions they got nothing more then they were prepared to inflict on their victims. Their victims after being subject to a knife attack won't be enjoying a long and peaceful life. So like I said: fk them.

Yes. yes, well done. You've shown you're an internet hard man.