Ouch (possible NSFW pictures of my rear to follow)

Ouch (possible NSFW pictures of my rear to follow)

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black-k1

11,927 posts

229 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Sorry to hear of the delays Dibble. This pandemic has been a real pain in the arse for all sorts of reasons but I can see that for you, it must be doubly frustrating. Keep your chin up and enjoy the lovely weather. Things will get back to (new) normal soon enough.

Dibble

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12,938 posts

240 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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elanfan said:
Hope proceedings have been issued or liability admitted otherwise you are now too late to sue.
The other side have agreed to an extension of three months, due to the CoViD stuff, so it’s in hand.

By chance, I’ve been contacted by the medical experts today for an appointment with an independent specialist, which is being done by video call, so it shouldn’t take too long for the consultation.

NNH

1,518 posts

132 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Dibble said:
elanfan said:
Hope proceedings have been issued or liability admitted otherwise you are now too late to sue.
The other side have agreed to an extension of three months, due to the CoViD stuff, so it’s in hand.

By chance, I’ve been contacted by the medical experts today for an appointment with an independent specialist, which is being done by video call, so it shouldn’t take too long for the consultation.
That should make for an interesting conversation in the Dibble household:

"Well you see, love, there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why I had my trousers down and was showing my arse to the webcam..."

Bobberoo99

38,646 posts

98 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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NNH said:
Dibble said:
elanfan said:
Hope proceedings have been issued or liability admitted otherwise you are now too late to sue.
The other side have agreed to an extension of three months, due to the CoViD stuff, so it’s in hand.

By chance, I’ve been contacted by the medical experts today for an appointment with an independent specialist, which is being done by video call, so it shouldn’t take too long for the consultation.
That should make for an interesting conversation in the Dibble household:

"Well you see, love, there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why I had my trousers down and was showing my arse to the webcam..."
eekroflroflrofl

Dibble

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12,938 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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Bobberoo99 said:
NNH said:
Dibble said:
elanfan said:
Hope proceedings have been issued or liability admitted otherwise you are now too late to sue.
The other side have agreed to an extension of three months, due to the CoViD stuff, so it’s in hand.

By chance, I’ve been contacted by the medical experts today for an appointment with an independent specialist, which is being done by video call, so it shouldn’t take too long for the consultation.
That should make for an interesting conversation in the Dibble household:

"Well you see, love, there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why I had my trousers down and was showing my arse to the webcam..."
eekroflroflrofl
Well, I had the video consultation and I was indeed required to drop my keks. I still need more surgery, so the report is an interim one and I’ll need to see the independent consultant again.

I saw my own orthopaedic consultant on Tuesday. As usual, it’s a bit of a mixed bag! Before all the Covid shenanigans, GF and I were due to go to The Hague at the end of June to see Kings of Leon and Snow Patrol. It’s taken me five years to be able to get KoL tickets and the concert was the same week asGF’s birthday, so we were both really looking forward to the trip. Of course, the concert was cancelled, because of the aforementioned Covid. fksake.

The downside (other than missing the concert) is that I’d postponed my next lot of surgery until after the concert, so rather than getting it sorted back at the start of the year, I was provisionally booked in for July. Again, Covid has scuppered us! The limb reconstruction team haven’t been doing any elective surgery since March, when the lockdowns started. The orthopaedic surgeons have still been dealing with trauma cases and dealing with patients already in the process, but of course, that didn’t include me. All the outpatient physio has been suspended as well, along with my next scheduled visit to the Police Treatment Centre at Harrogate for more residential rehab. There is obviously now a backlog of elective patients. Double fksake.

My ongoing issues at the moment are that my injured leg is still about 28mm short, which sounds like nothing, but you’d be surprised what a difference it makes. Because of the limitations on the previous pin site placement and the effect this had on my bone regeneration, the top end of my femur has a bit of a kink in it. My knee is also not working properly. I’ve a few options to sort all this out and each of the options has pros and cons. The “simplest” fix is to shorten my left femur, to match my right femur length, but this means messing with an as yet unfiddled with limb, together with a permanent nail in my leftt femur. My body seems to take an instant dislike to foreign objects, so I’m not wild about this option. It also wouldn’t solve the “kinky bone”/dodgy knee. It is the least invasive option, just as long as infections don’t appear... thrice fksake.

Option two is to lengthen my right tibia and fibula, but again, this means messing about with bits that haven’t been messed with so far and again, no knee/alignment solution. Additionally, I’d be mechanically uneven, as my knees would be at different heights, so not an ideal fix. Double double fksake.

Option three is to lengthen my right femur, with two “sub options”, these being either more of the same, ie another external rail, or a fancy new(ish) product called a Stryde nail. Whichever of these I have, the plan (at the moment) is to take a wedge of bone out of the top of my femur, which would then straighten it up, solving one issue. Additionally, my consultant thinks this will also help with my knee function as the alignment of my femur will help with alignment of the knee joint, solving issue number two. 

Again, the issue with the Stryde nail is that it’s another foreign body inside me, so the usual risks of infection are there. It’s also a reasonably new procedure, so I need to look into the long term outcomes/prognosis. It’s a fancy bit of kit though! Basically, they break the bone, then insert the nail down the inside of the femur, with each end of the nail fixed with screws. It’s all internal, so nothing poking out through skin. There is a control unit with a magnet, which you then place over a specific point of the nail, which then turns a magnet inside the nail, lengthening it. New bone then grows across the gap that is created at the rate of 1mm per day. I’ve only 28mm or so to make up the difference, rather than the 120mm when they started the reconstruction. I’ve linked a couple of YouTube videoS below, which makes more sense and there are plenty of online articles about the Stryde nail (the video I’ve linked is actually for the forerunner of the Stryde nail, called the Precice nail, but it’s a similar concept).

However (there’s always a “but”), my consultant wants to know whether I have any hideousness and feculence still lurking within me, so she wants me to have a PET CT scan before we decide the next step. I get to go to the Department of Nuclear Medicine at the hospital, where they inject me with some radioactive isotopes, which If there is any infection, will bind to the white blood cells and show up on the radar. Luckily, I won’t be flying anywhere any time soon, because they give you a covering letter, as the radioactive stuff can apparently set off airport detectors! 

The consultant can’t give me any timescale for my next surgery of course, because of sodding Covid. I’m due to see her again 4 weeks from yesterday, once I’ve had the PET CT scan, so I’ll hopefully find out then what is happening and more importantly, when. I think we’re up to quintuple fksake now. fking fking fking fking fking fksake.

https://youtu.be/E_X8PFJGrtA

This one is a bit more graphic (actual surgery). Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/C4Hmq4WEpjA

FiF

44,092 posts

251 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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"my consultant wants to know whether I have any hideousness and feculence still lurking "

Clearly she's been reading FEB and takeaway threads. hehe

Otherwise seconding the FFS^(n+1) sentiments.

Amazed at the "magic nut and bolt" arrangement

Just re-read the OP to remind myself how a stupid mistake by a 3rd party can have long term major consequences.

All the best.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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Dibble sorry to keep on but have your solicitors got an admission of liability yet? If not you must be dangerously close to your right to sue going down the pan. Instruct them to issue proceedings. You ought to be able to get a sizeable interim payment which might be useful.

That clever nail thing sounds like the way to go.

Dibble

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12,938 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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FiF said:
"my consultant wants to know whether I have any hideousness and feculence still lurking "

Clearly she's been reading FEB and takeaway threads. hehe

Otherwise seconding the FFS^(n+1) sentiments.

Amazed at the "magic nut and bolt" arrangement

Just re-read the OP to remind myself how a stupid mistake by a 3rd party can have long term major consequences.

All the best.
I’ll always have bleakness and dark lurking within. Mostly my soul, but the odd (and I do mean odd) bit elsewhere...

Dibble

Original Poster:

12,938 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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elanfan said:
Dibble sorry to keep on but have your solicitors got an admission of liability yet? If not you must be dangerously close to your right to sue going down the pan. Instruct them to issue proceedings. You ought to be able to get a sizeable interim payment which might be useful.

That clever nail thing sounds like the way to go.
No apology needed. It’s heartening that people are interested enough to read and reply to my ramblings. It’s quite cathartic just getting stuff written down, even if people don’t respond.

The independent consultant recommended I see a psychologist, as part of his questioning about how it’s all affected me was how it’s made me feel, which is a bit worse than “mildly cheesed off”. My solicitor has sent the report to the other side (who are still denying liability) and they want me to see a psychiatrist, rather than a psychologist. I’ve no problem with that, so it’s in the process of being arranged. Proceedings have been issued, so the solicitor is on with that side of things, although it’s not going to be resolved any time soon, as the next stage of surgeries/treatment/rehab is going to be at least another six months, with no actual start date as yet.

As for whether or not I end up with the magic magnetic amazing extender, that’s still up in the air as well. So far, my body hasn’t been a big fan of bits of metal being inserted, so any decision to go down that route will depend to a large extent on the result of the PET CT scan - if there’s any infection still there, it’ll probably be a no-go from the off. On the plus side, I know what the external rail involves, how much it hurts/inconveniences me and any infection does seem to leak out of the pin holes pretty quickly, rather than being tucked away inside, out of sight. The external rail is much more of a known quantity and the Stryde/Precice nail is still quite new within the NHS, so there’s not a lot of available data on outcomes.

stubert_

88 posts

83 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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Just read the entire thread (the crazy fun guy i am) and like so many others on here my hat is off to you for the way you have and are coping/enduring/living/responding to your accident and the aftermath.

I got knocked off my old FZS600 Fazer in 2011 and mashed my right knee and left shoulder, broke my left hand and bruised everything from the waist down frown Had a few ops to repair the damage (mostly soft tissue) and lots of physio and I would say i recovered to around 95% of were i was before the nice Mini driver pulled out on me.

Reading about your "process" has made me all the more aware how lucky I was to escape with only what happened to me angel and strangely enough was quite upsetting to read parts of it. confused

My claim (i used White Dalton) was only settled when they where sure the injuries caused by the accident where not going to get any better so as others have said you have a awhile to go on that score. All my gear's replacements were paid for but as it was mainly 1-2 years old at the time they wouldn't give me full wack for it.

I got another bike (a Tiger 955 biglaugh) after a while but before that as soon as i could bend my leg enough i was out on the GF's CBR600, I didn't want to have the accident decide i wasn't riding bikes anymore if that makes sense? Bought a Tiger 800 XC a few years later to go with the missus Tiger 800XR and had a few years fun on them but in the end the amount of moron's on the road and busy work life have ending our biking days for now. Not been to the Carousel for a few years now but it was always a good Wednesday night smile

Once again thanks for sharing your journey with us Dibble.

P.S I am not too far from you, I live near Leyland byebye

Tango13

8,439 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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Dibble said:
Well, I had the video consultation and I was indeed required to drop my keks. I still need more surgery, so the report is an interim one and I’ll need to see the independent consultant again.

I saw my own orthopaedic consultant on Tuesday. As usual, it’s a bit of a mixed bag! Before all the Covid shenanigans, GF and I were due to go to The Hague at the end of June to see Kings of Leon and Snow Patrol. It’s taken me five years to be able to get KoL tickets and the concert was the same week asGF’s birthday, so we were both really looking forward to the trip. Of course, the concert was cancelled, because of the aforementioned Covid. fksake.

The downside (other than missing the concert) is that I’d postponed my next lot of surgery until after the concert, so rather than getting it sorted back at the start of the year, I was provisionally booked in for July. Again, Covid has scuppered us! The limb reconstruction team haven’t been doing any elective surgery since March, when the lockdowns started. The orthopaedic surgeons have still been dealing with trauma cases and dealing with patients already in the process, but of course, that didn’t include me. All the outpatient physio has been suspended as well, along with my next scheduled visit to the Police Treatment Centre at Harrogate for more residential rehab. There is obviously now a backlog of elective patients. Double fksake.

My ongoing issues at the moment are that my injured leg is still about 28mm short, which sounds like nothing, but you’d be surprised what a difference it makes. Because of the limitations on the previous pin site placement and the effect this had on my bone regeneration, the top end of my femur has a bit of a kink in it. My knee is also not working properly. I’ve a few options to sort all this out and each of the options has pros and cons. The “simplest” fix is to shorten my left femur, to match my right femur length, but this means messing with an as yet unfiddled with limb, together with a permanent nail in my leftt femur. My body seems to take an instant dislike to foreign objects, so I’m not wild about this option. It also wouldn’t solve the “kinky bone”/dodgy knee. It is the least invasive option, just as long as infections don’t appear... thrice fksake.

Option two is to lengthen my right tibia and fibula, but again, this means messing about with bits that haven’t been messed with so far and again, no knee/alignment solution. Additionally, I’d be mechanically uneven, as my knees would be at different heights, so not an ideal fix. Double double fksake.

Option three is to lengthen my right femur, with two “sub options”, these being either more of the same, ie another external rail, or a fancy new(ish) product called a Stryde nail. Whichever of these I have, the plan (at the moment) is to take a wedge of bone out of the top of my femur, which would then straighten it up, solving one issue. Additionally, my consultant thinks this will also help with my knee function as the alignment of my femur will help with alignment of the knee joint, solving issue number two. 

Again, the issue with the Stryde nail is that it’s another foreign body inside me, so the usual risks of infection are there. It’s also a reasonably new procedure, so I need to look into the long term outcomes/prognosis. It’s a fancy bit of kit though! Basically, they break the bone, then insert the nail down the inside of the femur, with each end of the nail fixed with screws. It’s all internal, so nothing poking out through skin. There is a control unit with a magnet, which you then place over a specific point of the nail, which then turns a magnet inside the nail, lengthening it. New bone then grows across the gap that is created at the rate of 1mm per day. I’ve only 28mm or so to make up the difference, rather than the 120mm when they started the reconstruction. I’ve linked a couple of YouTube videoS below, which makes more sense and there are plenty of online articles about the Stryde nail (the video I’ve linked is actually for the forerunner of the Stryde nail, called the Precice nail, but it’s a similar concept).

However (there’s always a “but”), my consultant wants to know whether I have any hideousness and feculence still lurking within me, so she wants me to have a PET CT scan before we decide the next step. I get to go to the Department of Nuclear Medicine at the hospital, where they inject me with some radioactive isotopes, which If there is any infection, will bind to the white blood cells and show up on the radar. Luckily, I won’t be flying anywhere any time soon, because they give you a covering letter, as the radioactive stuff can apparently set off airport detectors! 

The consultant can’t give me any timescale for my next surgery of course, because of sodding Covid. I’m due to see her again 4 weeks from yesterday, once I’ve had the PET CT scan, so I’ll hopefully find out then what is happening and more importantly, when. I think we’re up to quintuple fksake now. fking fking fking fking fking fksake.

https://youtu.be/E_X8PFJGrtA

This one is a bit more graphic (actual surgery). Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/C4Hmq4WEpjA
I went fo a job at a place in Stanmore that made a similar system, I reckon I didn't get the job because I knew more than the bloke interviewing me.

I have a nail inside my femur and I still set off airport metal detectors, when they get the hand wand out it's always the area around the knee that beeps.

Vickers_VC10

6,759 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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Dibble, fecking hell this thread actually makes me think having my right leg lopped off was a lucky escape being i back to work and back to normal in 7 months. Wow what a saga!

Tango13

8,439 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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Vickers_VC10 said:
Dibble, fecking hell this thread actually makes me think having my right leg lopped off was a lucky escape being i back to work and back to normal in 7 months. Wow what a saga!
That's one hell of a stter considering you only went into hospital for an ear infection but it's good to see you've moved on...
















getmecoat

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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The radioactive injection is fun, they come into the room holding a case with a big radiation symbol on the side and then inject you with the contents..

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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If you want to just crack on with life get one of these made up by the orthotics people.
That's about twenty years old, still doesn't smell hehe and is all I need for 2" of femur shortening. It's completely invisible in a shoe, the only thing is you have to wear a Derby style of boot or a shoe with a higher back.

Edited by WinstonWolf on Monday 27th July 20:37

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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frisbee said:
The radioactive injection is fun, they come into the room holding a case with a big radiation symbol on the side and then inject you with the contents..
Does it make you feel like a superhero afterwards?

Joking apart the science behind it is super cool, even how they make it is interesting from a science nerd point of view.

Dibble, from a totally outside perspective, shouldn't the magnetic rod be less likely to be infected? Reason being is you've then got a closed wound, rather than the external rail which always gives a path for the filth to travel out to in.

Oh and keep your updates coming whenever you feel like it - as long as we don't get too many more plum X-rays there's plenty of us who read it with interest even if we don't always reply.

Dibble

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12,938 posts

240 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Thanks for all the replies/comments over the last couple of days. I’ll try and answer the questions/points raised, but apologies in advance if I miss any.

stubert_ funnily enough I may have lived in Leyland a little while back... Although I was quite badly injured, it’s all relative. I could have been killed, paralysed, permanently in a vegetative state, had limbs amputated. Worst case scenario is that I don’t get any better, but I can walk without crutches/stick and I can drive. Hopefully, there will be at least some improvement fr8m where I am now and anything “extra” is a win, as far as I’m concerned.

If I end up without another bike, I’m tempted to get a 4x4 with a roof tent or a camper and travel around in that. I’m desperate to get back to Scandinavia, but obviously the CoVid pandemic is making travel difficult for everyone. It’s just a bit frustrating that just as I was getting “properly” mobile, things started going into lockdown. I’ll just have to hide my time and hopefully in another 12-18 months things will be better for us all.


Tango13, I have still have metal where my food would be if I was a lady. My pelvis is fully healed, but it’s less risky to leave it in than remove it, so it’s staying in. If anyone starts waving their “wand” near me, airport security or otherwise, I’ll be not very impressed...


Vickers VC10, yep, it’s been a bit of a journey, but hopefully the next 6-12 months (once the surgery starts) should see me somewhere further in than I am now. It’s taken longer than anticipated, but I still can’t fault the limb reconstruction team who are treating me now. I’m less impressed with my original consultant, because despite repeatedly asking for the referral to the limb recon team, I was constantly fibbed off with “Let’s see what happens over the next six weeks”. I wished I’d pushed harder, sooner. That still doesn’t mean I want people waving wands near me,


WinstonWolf, I have now got a pair of boots and a pair of trainers sorted from the orthotics people. I’ve given them a decent go, but they aren’t a long term solution for me, at least while I have the option of some further surgery, which might improve things from where I am now. I realise I’ll probably always have some issues, but I’m really struggling at the moment and the consultant feels she can improve things “mechanically” by evening me up a bit. The orthotic shoes/trainers definitely help, but not as much as I’d like. And they look st!


Krikkit, you’re right, it sounds counterintuitive that open wounds are less of an infection risk, but the issues so far are that any bugs have been inside me, rather than travelling in from the outside. Although I had a load of pins in the femur, the problem was at the “knee end”, where the gap was. The top end was fine. The issue with the Stryde nail is that it’ll be on the inside of the bone, with a much larger overall surface area than the pins, IYSWIM. Basically, there’s a bigger breeding ground for gunk to grow on. The other benefit of pins is that they provide routes “out” for any gunge created internally... you didn’t like the squashed plums photos, so don’t make me repost the “mayonnaise leg” ones...


I had the letter through from the Department of Nuclear Medicine this morning, asking me to give them a call, which I did. They’ve got a slot tomorrow, so I’m due in to see them at 4.30pm for the injection, then the scan happens about an hour later and should take about 45-60 minutes. I have to fast from 10.30am, but at least I can drink water! I’ll just make a butty and leave it in the car for when I’m done.

Turn7

23,610 posts

221 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Oh mate, thats some serious st to contend with, even after all this time, when you must be hoping to start seeing liight at the end of the tunnel.......

Nail sounds similar to what Hutchy had to do with his leg,,,,,

Sorry to hear, but keep your chin up, least you have got the idiot to keep you semi sane!

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Built up shoes are st, I had one that looked like a club foot shoe...
Inserts are infinitely better IMO, they allow your foot to work over a much wider angle and you can walk with a more natural gait.
It's certainly worth giving one a go if you get a chance.
Good luck!

Dibble

Original Poster:

12,938 posts

240 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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WinstonWolf said:
Built up shoes are st, I had one that looked like a club foot shoe...
Inserts are infinitely better IMO, they allow your foot to work over a much wider angle and you can walk with a more natural gait.
It's certainly worth giving one a go if you get a chance.
Good luck!
I’ve got an orthotic insert of 12mm for each shoe and then the sole is built up by 16mm. The boot definitely works better than the trainer, as I don’t get my heel lifting out the same way. They’re ok, but not great. While I’ve options to try and improve length (oo-er, Matron), I’m going to go as far as I can with that. I’ve the additional issues with knee function and alignment at the top of my femur to try and get sorted and hopefully, the surgery will improve those areas as well. It’s a bit of a three for one deal and even minimal gains with knee function/bone alignment will be better, even if the length doesn’t change.