Who has purchased a new Africa Twin?

[rat840771]

Super C you must be upto 30k + at 6p a mile that would cost you around £1600? Probably a good deal to give back a battered bike that’s seen all weathers?

How is your bike bearing up?

bladerrw said:

supercommuter said:

Does anyone know what the excess mileage cost was off the top of their head?

5.928p inc VAT

[BobSaunders]

All, if you want to voluntary terminate due to finacial changes, and you are approx halfway through your contract, then you need to call up ask for the voluntary termination figure. They **have** to tell you what the figure is.

[BobSaunders]

rat840771 said:

I’ve been thinking of bailing . I assumed you just paid the remaining 12 x £70 plus the settlement amount. I am worried that in 12 months there will be millions of ATs to shift so thought I would sell early

If it is on PCP, then just hand it back in 12 months and walk away.

If you want to buy it to keep it then pay the settlement amount at the end. It will be defined in your PCP agreement.

If you want to sell it, sell now and have the buyer pay the final settlement amount to the finance company, and the rest to you. Ring the finance company for a settlement amount.

[supercommuter]

rat840771 said:

Super C you must be upto 30k + at 6p a mile that would cost you around £1600? Probably a good deal to give back a battered bike that’s seen all weathers?

How is your bike bearing up?

bladerrw said:

supercommuter said:

Does anyone know what the excess mileage cost was off the top of their head?

5.928p inc VAT

It is on 40,000 odd so far, will see what its at next year but i suspect 60/70k so I will likely just keep it, does not make sense to shift it on if it will run me up to 120k miles which i think it will.

I have had the wheels replaced under warranty and the battery is on its way out, but the rest of the bike is fine! Just consumables, sprockets and chain etc, I dont wash it very often at all, but i use corrosion block all over it (the blue grease type)

As a side note i have just put 150 quid a month into a savings account each month so the balloon will be sat there ready to go anyway.

[BobSaunders]

anonymous said:

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There is a discussion on PCP regarding it's pitfalls on the finance forum right now.

You either pay to exit, or you maintain the contract until the end.

[mad4amanda]

at the dealers today I saw a brochure showing what was acceptable condition to hand a bike back in at the end of the contract turns out its quite comprehensive and maybe not quite as easy to walk away from a battered bike!

[supercommuter]

mad4amanda said:

at the dealers today I saw a brochure showing what was acceptable condition to hand a bike back in at the end of the contract turns out its quite comprehensive and maybe not quite as easy to walk away from a battered bike!

Tbf mine isnt battered. Just high mileage. It hasn't been dropped or anything.

My excess mileage fees will likely be close to the cost of paying the remaining finance off, so i would rather just keep it. If i can get another year or two out of it after it is paid off i will be happy.

[Dog Star]

mad4amanda said:

at the dealers today I saw a brochure showing what was acceptable condition to hand a bike back in at the end of the contract turns out its quite comprehensive and maybe not quite as easy to walk away from a battered bike!

It's going to be similar to the expectations on a lease car return I guess - for cars it's defined by the BVRLA. They've got to be in pretty decent (ie. forecourt saleable) condition, and thats fair enough in my opinion.

I don't think some people appreciate how much they need to look after them - these are the ones who moan when they get damage charges.

[Prof Prolapse]

You'd hope there's some reasonable give and take regarding "damage" vs. "wear and tear", for a bike marketed as one of the more off road examples of the adventure segment, that is shown as being used in rough conditions in the publications and advertising, and then is made with mild steel parts with some questionable finishes.

Depends on the dealer I guess, but I mean, for the sake of a few hundred quid, you're never going to buy a bike from them again if you don't come to a reasonable agreement on the trade in value at the end of the PCP. That has to be a consideration for them.

I've little basis for my opinion, but I don't think it's something to stress too much about personally... I mean if you start thinking like this you'll never use the damned thing.

[rat840771]

I was at Honda dealer yesterday and of similar year and mileage (5k) with end can and like new condition they offered £6.2 part ex. That is what my settlement figure is in 12 months ( with 12k) the market has been flooded to 2nd value is low

[supercommuter]

Given these cheap lease deals were i cant imagine many are surprised by the second hand prices!

[mad4amanda]

Exactly this , and its not the dealer that appraises it if it gets handed back as the dealer is not involved the finance companies have a subcontractor at the auction house at Rockingham who do the inspections and I have heard of some being charged a lot for damage over the acceptable limits. Also remember the cheap lease deals were on the old models with out throttle by wire and the new pattern injectors fitted for 2018 so are depreciating faster against the newer models. And the adventure sport model seems to be the big seller now as it offers more of what people want from a big bike( tank range comfort and kit) so the basic model is in the shadow of this now .

[Rawwr]

Semantics but they're not leases.

[rat840771]

I’ll keep mine for 12 months and hand it back, absolute bargain at 2.5k for 3 years

Those poor buggers who paid 12.5k just before JB did the deal.

I may go for a CB1000r if a good deal is on offer. But I’m loving the Triumph at the moment, speed,street RS or even the 1200 scrambler

[guitarcarfanatic]

Hi All,

Considering an AT - still some reasonable deals floating around on 2019 models (0% and £1k off). Will likely come down to what they offer trade in on the R1200GS.

Want to stick with a gearbox as only been riding for 6 months and always learning so no to DCT....

Any feedback between the standard and the Adventure? I am 6 foot 3 and find my R1200 a little cramped at times. The Honda seems to solve that and erring towards the bigger model (better colours!!).

Also...whats it like for pillion?

Cheers,

Rob

[Sea Demon]

guitarcarfanatic said:

Hi All,

Considering an AT - still some reasonable deals floating around on 2019 models (0% and £1k off). Will likely come down to what they offer trade in on the R1200GS.

Want to stick with a gearbox as only been riding for 6 months and always learning so no to DCT....

Any feedback between the standard and the Adventure? I am 6 foot 3 and find my R1200 a little cramped at times. The Honda seems to solve that and erring towards the bigger model (better colours!!).

Also...whats it like for pillion?

Cheers,

Rob

Im 6'3 & find mine really comfy, I've got the adventure sports & doing 400 miles a week commuting means I only have to fill up once/twice a week - 6 journeys to a tank bascially. Few other small differences apart from the tank are longer suspension travel, bar risers & some small revisions on engine but still makes the same power, they also re-worked the exhaust for a bit more noise - standard sounds ok but I've fitted a Remus pipe which sounds really nice. I got the Honda quick shifter fitted, really good when pinning it.

If you test rode one, you'll probably find a lot of wind buffeting which blows up from the forks and thats easily solved (was for me) with a plastic shield that goes over the top.

[supercommuter]

I am 6ft 1" and find mine comfy, i have the seat on the lower setting still.

Given the revisions i would probably try and get onto an AT AS if i could. I might need to get a harder rear spring or lose some weight, I find the back end quite motorcross saggy. Although its don't 40 odd thousand miles now so this may be why. Maybe due a service.

[Sea Demon]

supercommuter said:

I am 6ft 1" and find mine comfy, i have the seat on the lower setting still.

Given the revisions i would probably try and get onto an AT AS if i could. I might need to get a harder rear spring or lose some weight, I find the back end quite motorcross saggy. Although its don't 40 odd thousand miles now so this may be why. Maybe due a service.

I wound in some pre-load on my rear end, feels much better - also, the standard Dunlops are a bit hairy in the wet. I'll be changing to conti trail attack's after these but I keep seeing people selling new sets of Dunlops for £50 which is great for commuting and I've got a couple of sets in the shed - found that for a heavy bike, front pads last a long time. Had my bike a year next month & covered just under 20k on it without any issues but shop around for servicing, some places quote £900 for a valve service but I had it done by Chiswick Honda for £480.

[supercommuter]

Sea Demon said:

supercommuter said:

I am 6ft 1" and find mine comfy, i have the seat on the lower setting still.

Given the revisions i would probably try and get onto an AT AS if i could. I might need to get a harder rear spring or lose some weight, I find the back end quite motorcross saggy. Although its don't 40 odd thousand miles now so this may be why. Maybe due a service.

I wound in some pre-load on my rear end, feels much better - also, the standard Dunlops are a bit hairy in the wet. I'll be changing to conti trail attack's after these but I keep seeing people selling new sets of Dunlops for £50 which is great for commuting and I've got a couple of sets in the shed - found that for a heavy bike, front pads last a long time. Had my bike a year next month & covered just under 20k on it without any issues but shop around for servicing, some places quote £900 for a valve service but I had it done by Chiswick Honda for £480.

Guessing by your mileage you are keeping it, sounds like you are doing what i do. I snap up the new sets of dunlops for £30-50 for commuting as they last ages and replace with decent tyres when going on holiday on it.

If you are keeping it just get it serviced by a local mechanic, i have been. They did not even care to see my history when i got my warranty wheels. Although that might be different if it is an engine issue.

I have 45k-50k on mine and still have original rear pads

[Sea Demon]

supercommuter said:

Guessing by your mileage you are keeping it, sounds like you are doing what i do. I snap up the new sets of dunlops for £30-50 for commuting as they last ages and replace with decent tyres when going on holiday on it.

If you are keeping it just get it serviced by a local mechanic, i have been. They did not even care to see my history when i got my warranty wheels. Although that might be different if it is an engine issue.

I have 45k-50k on mine and still have original rear pads

Im on my 2nd set of rear pads. I use the fronts more now I've adjusted the suspension as it used to dive too much for me and using the rear was smoother but all good now.

I'll use my local indie for the next service but for the valve service they were coming in at £750 due to the labour costs of stripping down/putting back together, once the warranty's up I'll just do it all myself.

Im going to be keeping it & getting myself a K4/5 GSXR 750 to go with it as I miss my sports bikes but do enjoy the AT too.