Do you use an airbag? D-Air, Tech Air?
Discussion
Mr Dendrite said:
Update: Dainese have just announced this D-air smart that can be worn with any kit. Allegedly more features than the Ixon, dual charge and I was told around £550:
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
You know it actually says the price on that page - £569.95https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
Junior Bianno said:
Mr Dendrite said:
Update: Dainese have just announced this D-air smart that can be worn with any kit. Allegedly more features than the Ixon, dual charge and I was told around £550:
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
You know it actually says the price on that page - £569.95https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
Mr Dendrite said:
Update: Dainese have just announced this D-air smart that can be worn with any kit. Allegedly more features than the Ixon, dual charge and I was told around £550:
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
Dainese said:
The brain inside the Smart Jacket is the control unit in the Dainese D-air® system, which, without any cable or connection to the motorcycle, automatically senses dangerous situations and immediately activates the Shield to protect the rider. Always at the right moment, only when necessary. A brain that thinks and acts to ensure maximum security for you
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Its complex algorithm activates the airbag in the event of lowsiders, highsiders, collisions with object
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It always knows what to do and when to do it
impressive - I wonder how it does all that .....
Its complex algorithm activates the airbag in the event of lowsiders, highsiders, collisions with object
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It always knows what to do and when to do it
anonymous said:
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Yeah that’s it. It has accelerometers, g sensors, GPS etc. If this one has the same technology as the suits you can even download telemetry from it.It’s clever how it works. It can decide if you need it to go off during a crash. If something changes mid crash it can then decide to go off.
anonymous said:
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Yes, probably and a computer of some sort too!What I find impressive is that all the necessary crash conditions can be detected without a reference point (ie the bike) to compare to.
As the rider sails through the air, I don't know how it can tell the different between that and just riding along - until he hits the car and its too late then!
I would've been all over than if I hadn't bought the Alpinestars. Looks great!
One criticism though: I wish it had more coverage. Have a look where the air cushion area is on the Tech Air to see what I mean. I use it all the time on the road and only have one track day planned this year. To me, collisions on road aren't quite as uniform as on track, so bigger cushion area = better?
One criticism though: I wish it had more coverage. Have a look where the air cushion area is on the Tech Air to see what I mean. I use it all the time on the road and only have one track day planned this year. To me, collisions on road aren't quite as uniform as on track, so bigger cushion area = better?
I'll be buying one alongside my misano jacket, the idea that you can add the extra protection to any jacket is a great concept as there are definitely days when a full leather CE2 race jacket feels a little on the hardcore side and the ability to combo this with a decent textile jacket has just saved me about a grand. This tech really has an opportunity to go mainstream at this sort of price and maybe convince a few more people to give riding a go. Imagine where this tech will be in another 10 years!
gland said:
I wish it had more coverage. Have a look where the air cushion area is on the Tech Air to see what I mean. I use it all the time on the road and only have one track day planned this year. To me, collisions on road aren't quite as uniform as on track, so bigger cushion area = better?
+1. I think a bigger cushion area = better.Also, why don’t they cushioning to give some protection to the neck?
To somebody who asked what you expect:
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
Printul77700 said:
To somebody who asked what you expect:
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
Sir, you need some addition coccyx protection.We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
Printul77700 said:
To somebody who asked what you expect:
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
Top post, agree entirely.We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
"Because Safety", is not a good reason to part with potentially thousands of pounds.
Does anyone know when Dainese’s D-Air Smart jacket is due out, and how its airbag coverage compares to D-Air Street jackets?
Perhaps it’s the lockdown, but I’ve noticed some airbags at deflated prices. Bikestop pricked its pricing – with the odd D-Air jacket nearly half price – and prices have gone pop in some cases on eBay too (e.g. £550 for a D-Air Misano jacket). I might take a look before costs inflate again.
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