Do you use an airbag? D-Air, Tech Air?

Do you use an airbag? D-Air, Tech Air?

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Junior Bianno

1,400 posts

193 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Mr Dendrite said:
Update: Dainese have just announced this D-air smart that can be worn with any kit. Allegedly more features than the Ixon, dual charge and I was told around £550:
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
You know it actually says the price on that page - £569.95

Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Junior Bianno said:
Mr Dendrite said:
Update: Dainese have just announced this D-air smart that can be worn with any kit. Allegedly more features than the Ixon, dual charge and I was told around £550:
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
You know it actually says the price on that page - £569.95
You know I actually didn’t read that far, Doh... biggrin

3nduro

183 posts

98 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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is this suitable for a trackday rider .. or really aimed at folks riding urban roads ?

basically I have a track suit that I am happy with ...but might be nice to have that air bag possibility

OverSteery

3,610 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Mr Dendrite said:
Update: Dainese have just announced this D-air smart that can be worn with any kit. Allegedly more features than the Ixon, dual charge and I was told around £550:
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
Dainese said:
The brain inside the Smart Jacket is the control unit in the Dainese D-air® system, which, without any cable or connection to the motorcycle, automatically senses dangerous situations and immediately activates the Shield to protect the rider. Always at the right moment, only when necessary. A brain that thinks and acts to ensure maximum security for you
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Its complex algorithm activates the airbag in the event of lowsiders, highsiders, collisions with object
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It always knows what to do and when to do it
impressive - I wonder how it does all that

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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Yeah that’s it. It has accelerometers, g sensors, GPS etc. If this one has the same technology as the suits you can even download telemetry from it.

It’s clever how it works. It can decide if you need it to go off during a crash. If something changes mid crash it can then decide to go off.

OverSteery

3,610 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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Yes, probably and a computer of some sort too!

What I find impressive is that all the necessary crash conditions can be detected without a reference point (ie the bike) to compare to.
As the rider sails through the air, I don't know how it can tell the different between that and just riding along - until he hits the car and its too late then!

Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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Yep, me to. I had pretty much decided to buy the Ixon and then was told at the weekend that Dainese were about to launch this. Unless the reviews are pants I’m pretty much sold.

gland

Original Poster:

109 posts

80 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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I would've been all over than if I hadn't bought the Alpinestars. Looks great!

One criticism though: I wish it had more coverage. Have a look where the air cushion area is on the Tech Air to see what I mean. I use it all the time on the road and only have one track day planned this year. To me, collisions on road aren't quite as uniform as on track, so bigger cushion area = better?

tjlazer

875 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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I'll be buying one alongside my misano jacket, the idea that you can add the extra protection to any jacket is a great concept as there are definitely days when a full leather CE2 race jacket feels a little on the hardcore side and the ability to combo this with a decent textile jacket has just saved me about a grand. This tech really has an opportunity to go mainstream at this sort of price and maybe convince a few more people to give riding a go. Imagine where this tech will be in another 10 years!

SVS

3,824 posts

271 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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gland said:
I wish it had more coverage. Have a look where the air cushion area is on the Tech Air to see what I mean. I use it all the time on the road and only have one track day planned this year. To me, collisions on road aren't quite as uniform as on track, so bigger cushion area = better?
+1. I think a bigger cushion area = better.

Also, why don’t they cushioning to give some protection to the neck?

Printul77700

1 posts

57 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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To somebody who asked what you expect:
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect

Bob_Defly

3,678 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Printul77700 said:
To somebody who asked what you expect:
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
Sir, you need some addition coccyx protection.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Printul77700 said:
To somebody who asked what you expect:
We expect that the most probable situations o be studied,covered by airbag,tested,fine tuned,documented for buyer and released.
Then buyer watches videos,reads documentations and decides.
Easier said than done but this is how it should be.
On the contrary we see selling preaching while obviously ,as we miss evidence, they seem,some of them,to miss neck protection,coccyx protection etc.
Is it needed?maybe not?
How do we know ?
We don’t...we try to apply common sense and we see it should be there...we try to check our common sense against product details and the details do not exist.
Ah and race race race,0.1% of us are maybe racers so could we go with this things little bit more real?yeah I got it,we start from race,from where money comes...10-20 years ago...but now?
Well,that’s what i personally expect
Top post, agree entirely.

"Because Safety", is not a good reason to part with potentially thousands of pounds.

SVS

3,824 posts

271 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Does anyone know when Dainese’s D-Air Smart jacket is due out, and how its airbag coverage compares to D-Air Street jackets?


Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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You can order one from Dainese dealers, who knows when it will arrive! No one’s done a review and the only one seen in the wild was apparently brought over from Italy confused
I will wait till next year now frown

graeme4130

3,828 posts

181 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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I was told early part of next year for the racer version, but this is Italian timescales, so could be next month or next decade

IanUAE

2,930 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Our rider in the UAE sportsbike championship will be wearing a PSI with the Tech Air this season.

3nduro

183 posts

98 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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I used a helite lanyard air bag at portimao last month ... didnt crash so its untested

but was nice feeling wearing it .. and didnt notice it ... was too busy concentrating !!

mjw7

255 posts

209 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Had mine a couple of months, fantastic jacket and only takes a couple of hours to charge and lasts around 27 hours.

Salted_Peanut

1,361 posts

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Perhaps it’s the lockdown, but I’ve noticed some airbags at deflated prices. Bikestop pricked its pricing – with the odd D-Air jacket nearly half price – and prices have gone pop in some cases on eBay too (e.g. £550 for a D-Air Misano jacket). I might take a look before costs inflate again.