Bikers v motorists and vv

[Rosanne]

Like many motorists I have used two wheeled transport. This has ranged from a Carlton racing bike up to a Douglas Dragonfly ( my grandfathers ! ). So I can see both points of view. However, I am growing increasingly concerned at the hostility between both groups that is rapidly becoming a part of everyday motoring. I've seen bikers smash driver's door mirrors and drivers and bikers get into roadside punch ups.
Many of the bikers seem to be learner drivers, presumably with little or no experience of driving a car. I'm sure that many car drivers have no two wheel experience either. I do wish, though, that bikers might recognise that high speed weaving between moving or stationary traffic leaves them virtually invisible to car drivers and therefore very vulnerable.

[Biker's Nemesis]

I've heard that it's safe to eat raw eggs again so long as they bac the red band on them.

I may have an omelette for tea tonight.

[av185]

Rosanne said:

I do wish, though, that bikers might recognise that high speed weaving between moving or stationary traffic leaves them virtually invisible to car drivers and therefore very vulnerable.

I wouldn't worry.

Those high speed weaving fkwit bikers will soon learn of their vulnerabilities when they come off worse after the inevitable collision with a car.

n.b. I still own my Carlton racing bike btw.

[SantaBarbara]

Its bad on my he A40 into London

[moanthebairns]

Biker's Nemesis said:

I've heard that it's safe to eat raw eggs again so long as they bac the red band on them.

I may have an omelette for tea tonight.

Surely cooking an omelette means the egg isn't raw....

[Biker's Nemesis]

moanthebairns said:

Surely cooking an omelette means the egg isn't raw....

Cooked omelette with a raw egg chaser.

[mckeann]

I like eggs

[moanthebairns]

mckeann said:

I like eggs

I like cereal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5KrGlnBVkE

[mckeann]

I like bacon with my eggs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[308mate]

Rosanne said:

I do wish, though, that bikers might recognise that high speed weaving between moving or stationary traffic leaves them virtually invisible to car drivers and therefore very vulnerable.

I rely on being invisible to them. Waiting for them to see you means spending too long at the same or slower pace and then when accidents happen. I aim to be round them and gone before they knew I was there, like a secret motorcycle ninja, if you will.

Except I don't like ninjas, as they're green and nothing good ever came in green.

[Cbull]

308mate said:

Except I don't like ninjas, as they're green and nothing good ever came in green.

I know a racist when I see one

How about blue Ninjas?

[dibblecorse]

What a f***ing waste of internet space this thread is ......

[ashleyman]

I know there's equal amounts of tts on the road driving cars vs bikes.

But if someone could please tell bikers to back the fk off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line.

I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.

I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.

[moanthebairns]

mckeann said:

I like bacon with my eggs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Aw you . Nws

[Cbull]

ashleyman said:

I know there's equal amounts of tts on the road driving cars vs bikes.

But if someone could please tell bikers to back the fk off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line.

I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.

I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.

We had this discussion not so long ago.

To answer you though, I personally try and keep a normal distance but bikers can generally see more than yourself as they can see over the top of cars so that may inspire confidence to get a little closer.

I hover around the left line of the car, this way if you do brake abruptly then I can just move over a little into the centre whilst braking along the white line and without having to go over the handle bars. We can also see a lot more from this angle too. As long as drivers are smooth and do the checks it's easy for a biker to manouvre accordingly, even at higher speeds.

[dibblecorse]

Cbull said:

We had this discussion not so long ago.

To answer you though, I personally try and keep a normal distance but bikers can generally see more than yourself as they can see over the top of cars so that may inspire confidence to get a little closer.

I hover around the left line of the car, this way if you do brake abruptly then I can just move over a little into the centre whilst braking along the white line and without having to go over the handle bars. We can also see a lot more from this angle too. As long as drivers are smooth and do the checks it's easy for a biker to manouvre accordingly, even at higher speeds.

Stop talking sense, they'll never get it, we are just organ donors apparently ........

[ashleyman]

Cbull said:

ashleyman said:

I know there's equal amounts of tts on the road driving cars vs bikes.

But if someone could please tell bikers to back the fk off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line.

I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.

I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.

We had this discussion not so long ago.

To answer you though, I personally try and keep a normal distance but bikers can generally see more than yourself as they can see over the top of cars so that may inspire confidence to get a little closer.

I hover around the left line of the car, this way if you do brake abruptly then I can just move over a little into the centre whilst braking along the white line and without having to go over the handle bars. We can also see a lot more from this angle too. As long as drivers are smooth and do the checks it's easy for a biker to manouvre accordingly, even at higher speeds.

I get it. I've ridden too. But some of the guys I've experienced lately sit about 30 cm off your rear bumper right in the middle. In the case of the bloke the other night, he had nowhere to go and went over the handle cars, luckily I was watching and was quick to move over the white line so he fell on his face in the road rather than onto the back of my car. He was fine, but wouldn't have damaged his bike if he was doing what you said.

[moanthebairns]

ashleyman said:

Cbull said:

ashleyman said:

I know there's equal amounts of tts on the road driving cars vs bikes.

But if someone could please tell bikers to back the fk off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line.

I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.

I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.

We had this discussion not so long ago.

To answer you though, I personally try and keep a normal distance but bikers can generally see more than yourself as they can see over the top of cars so that may inspire confidence to get a little closer.

I hover around the left line of the car, this way if you do brake abruptly then I can just move over a little into the centre whilst braking along the white line and without having to go over the handle bars. We can also see a lot more from this angle too. As long as drivers are smooth and do the checks it's easy for a biker to manouvre accordingly, even at higher speeds.

I get it. I've ridden too. But some of the guys I've experienced lately sit about 30 cm off your rear bumper right in the middle. In the case of the bloke the other night, he had nowhere to go and went over the handle cars, luckily I was watching and was quick to move over the white line so he fell on his face in the road rather than onto the back of my car. He was fine, but wouldn't have damaged his bike if he was doing what you said.

SO your telling us you never slowed down, increased the gap in front, pulled to the inside lane, allowed the biker who was violating the high way code to pass then continued on your journeys. WTF

[ashleyman]

moanthebairns said:

SO your telling us you never slowed down, increased the gap in front, pulled to the inside lane, allowed the biker who was violating the high way code to pass then continued on your journeys. WTF

Gap in front of me.
Car in front slowed down
I slowed down.
Biker didn't so reacted late.
I saw him coming behind me and not reacting aiming for centre of my rear bumper
I pulled right over centre line onto other side of road so he didn't hit me
Biker went over bars as he pulled brakes hard and hit floor about 30cm from back of my car

If I hadn't pulled right he would have landed ON/IN my car.

I was looking at the car in front of me and reacting, biker wasn't and reacted late therefore going over handlebars.

[cbmotorsport]

ashleyman said:

Cbull said:

ashleyman said:

I know there's equal amounts of tts on the road driving cars vs bikes.

But if someone could please tell bikers to back the fk off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line.

I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.

I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.

We had this discussion not so long ago.

To answer you though, I personally try and keep a normal distance but bikers can generally see more than yourself as they can see over the top of cars so that may inspire confidence to get a little closer.

I hover around the left line of the car, this way if you do brake abruptly then I can just move over a little into the centre whilst braking along the white line and without having to go over the handle bars. We can also see a lot more from this angle too. As long as drivers are smooth and do the checks it's easy for a biker to manouvre accordingly, even at higher speeds.

I get it. I've ridden too. But some of the guys I've experienced lately sit about 30 cm off your rear bumper right in the middle. In the case of the bloke the other night, he had nowhere to go and went over the handle cars, luckily I was watching and was quick to move over the white line so he fell on his face in the road rather than onto the back of my car. He was fine, but wouldn't have damaged his bike if he was doing what you said.