A picture a day...biker banter (Vol 5)

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Birky_41

4,296 posts

185 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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spareparts said:
3DP said:
First ride of a big bike since late October. 14T front sprocket and cold air meant some epic 3rd to 5th gear wheelies. It's good to be back out!
I’m itching to head south for some open roads
I'm aching bad after a 160 mile ride today. Temps were just about OK at 8-9 degrees but heavy gritting last night meant white dry roads today. Definitely not big lean grip

Our usual cafe was closed so we went a bit further to this pub and it was like something out the hills have eyes... We laughed alot and after walking through the dusty air in the dimly lit pub decided to ride a bit further



We managed to find a very expensive American burger restaurant so the lunch ended up being a kinda dinner at the same time but the girls were pretty and the milkshakes were good so we were happy



The blackbird wasn't as happy as our bikes pushing about the b roads and made that clear a few times but I said it before... Blimey that's quick above 100

Other than some big red marks from stones that managed to get me like a good'un a good day had

Roast dinner now and some motivation to give it a quick clean tomorrow

Birky_41

4,296 posts

185 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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3DP said:
My record is 158 indicated on the Blade, although I was rev limiter in 3rd many times in portugal on it, which was about 144 on GPS, loaded up with luggage. 4th gear on Blade gives reliable 150mph wheelies, but it gets a bit dicey after that.

Cross winds are a killer, but main issue I find in 5th gear is any kind of slightly excessive roll off to manage height means not enough guts to bring the wheelie back up. Weaves or shimmies are scariest but generally I find it useful to land the wheelie a bit harder than normal at the big speeds so that the front wheel tucks/locks for less time whilst getting up to speed.

Only bikes I've got into top gear on rear are enduro bikes. In the end I could rev limiter in top the DRZ400, which felt like winning the game. smile

I've not tried the low tyre pressure trick, but guess it stops the shimmying!
I'm not good for high speed wheelies. I'll lift my ape in 3rd and that's about 70-90 it'll balance at that speed for ages. My mate on the mt10 can lift off the clutch at an indicated 115 but he's always accelerating through the gears and will drop it at 130-140 sometimes... Looks like an airplane when the front tyre touches the tarmac with the smoke

Mx /enduro bikes are where its at. Can lift them in any gear at silly low speeds maybe 30-40 and get in the right position it'll go as long as your talent allows

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Birky_41 said:
3DP said:
My record is 158 indicated on the Blade, although I was rev limiter in 3rd many times in portugal on it, which was about 144 on GPS, loaded up with luggage. 4th gear on Blade gives reliable 150mph wheelies, but it gets a bit dicey after that.

Cross winds are a killer, but main issue I find in 5th gear is any kind of slightly excessive roll off to manage height means not enough guts to bring the wheelie back up. Weaves or shimmies are scariest but generally I find it useful to land the wheelie a bit harder than normal at the big speeds so that the front wheel tucks/locks for less time whilst getting up to speed.

Only bikes I've got into top gear on rear are enduro bikes. In the end I could rev limiter in top the DRZ400, which felt like winning the game. smile

I've not tried the low tyre pressure trick, but guess it stops the shimmying!
I'm not good for high speed wheelies. I'll lift my ape in 3rd and that's about 70-90 it'll balance at that speed for ages. My mate on the mt10 can lift off the clutch at an indicated 115 but he's always accelerating through the gears and will drop it at 130-140 sometimes... Looks like an airplane when the front tyre touches the tarmac with the smoke

Mx /enduro bikes are where its at. Can lift them in any gear at silly low speeds maybe 30-40 and get in the right position it'll go as long as your talent allows
I tug them up at about 75 in 2nd on the Blade and about 65 in 3rd on the 1098S. The Speed Triple gets clutched up at lower speeds. I don't keep a constant speed, more a constant acceleration through the gears although rate of increase of speed gets much slower as you hit higher speeds. This means long ones are always landed at high speeds. I think a few off here have followed me with the smoking fronts on landing and smell of burning rubber! biggrin Apparently M7RRs are particularly smoky!

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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3DP said:
My record is 158 indicated on the Blade, although I was rev limiter in 3rd many times in portugal on it, which was about 144 on GPS, loaded up with luggage. 4th gear on Blade gives reliable 150mph wheelies, but it gets a bit dicey after that.
Paul has been the only mate willing to sit right on my tail when getting a lick on, I may have gone faster than that but I never look at the speedo, having a false leg doesn't help not being able to cover the rear brake.

Dunno if you use the rear brake. It gives me cold sweats now thinking what would happen if it goes wrong. (this came about after flipping a moto cross bike last year no gear or helmet on)

I still haven't wheelied my new R1 on road or track yet.

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Birky_41 said:
I'm not good for high speed wheelies. I'll lift my ape in 3rd and that's about 70-90 it'll balance at that speed for ages. My mate on the mt10 can lift off the clutch at an indicated 115 but he's always accelerating through the gears and will drop it at 130-140 sometimes... Looks like an airplane when the front tyre touches the tarmac with the smoke

Mx /enduro bikes are where its at. Can lift them in any gear at silly low speeds maybe 30-40 and get in the right position it'll go as long as your talent allows
You should be good at wheelies having raced moto cross.

I'd be disappointed if you weren't.

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I can't do them off the power either, I have to use the clutch, its more controlled, I have never burnt a clutch out either, I had the old R1 on road and track for 7 years and must have done hundreds of clutch wheelies on that.

Jazoli

9,102 posts

251 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I still haven't wheelied my new R1 on road or track yet.
Shame on you, your old R1 was the easiest bike to wheelie in the world ever, it even made me look good biggrin

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Jazoli said:
Shame on you, your old R1 was the easiest bike to wheelie in the world ever, it even made me look good biggrin
The 09 one was way better than that.

Jazoli

9,102 posts

251 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Biker's Nemesis said:
The 09 one was way better than that.
I'll have a practice on Scott's when he gives me the keys biggrin

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Jazoli said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
The 09 one was way better than that.
I'll have a practice on Scott's when he gives me the keys biggrin
Me too. hehe

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Biker's Nemesis said:
3DP said:
My record is 158 indicated on the Blade, although I was rev limiter in 3rd many times in portugal on it, which was about 144 on GPS, loaded up with luggage. 4th gear on Blade gives reliable 150mph wheelies, but it gets a bit dicey after that.
Paul has been the only mate willing to sit right on my tail when getting a lick on, I may have gone faster than that but I never look at the speedo, having a false leg doesn't help not being able to cover the rear brake.

Dunno if you use the rear brake. It gives me cold sweats now thinking what would happen if it goes wrong. (this came about after flipping a moto cross bike last year no gear or helmet on)

I still haven't wheelied my new R1 on road or track yet.
I don't use rear brake on road bike wheelies, but did on enduro bikes. I have it covered though (which I didn't in my infamous looping vid)! Yes your safety net is kind of not there. A lot of the Grom stunt boys are fitting two finger operated rear brake levers staggered above their clutch lever.... just a thought?

I find it more predictable to tug it up than clutch it up. Clutches are pretty robust these days, but I worry more about output shaft bearings and chain stretch. Like you say though - bikes just take it these days it seems.

As for the new R1 - is that cos you haven't worked out how to turn off the anti-wheelie yet? These new fangled computer things can be tricky smile



Birky_41

4,296 posts

185 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I put the pics on my WhatsApp group... One of them who loves an edit sent this back

I actually prefer it laughlaughlaugh


MotorsportTom

3,318 posts

162 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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What do you do when your bike is two tyred?

Let it have a lie down of course biggrin


moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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I found myself in a tattoo shop abroad with someone else's slot, with a guy who doesn't speak English. so I got the first thing that popped into my head that was bike related. Only just fking realised its 16t ffs mckeann told me 15t front.

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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moanthebairns said:


I found myself in a tattoo shop abroad with someone else's slot, with a guy who doesn't speak English. so I got the first thing that popped into my head that was bike related. Only just fking realised its 16t ffs mckeann told me 15t front.
Is it a Renthal/Tallon or standard?

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Renthal utral light obviously.....

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Birky_41 said:
I'm aching bad after a 160 mile ride today. Temps were just about OK at 8-9 degrees but heavy gritting last night meant white dry roads today. Definitely not big lean grip

Our usual cafe was closed so we went a bit further to this pub and it was like something out the hills have eyes... We laughed alot and after walking through the dusty air in the dimly lit pub decided to ride a bit further



We managed to find a very expensive American burger restaurant so the lunch ended up being a kinda dinner at the same time but the girls were pretty and the milkshakes were good so we were happy



The blackbird wasn't as happy as our bikes pushing about the b roads and made that clear a few times but I said it before... Blimey that's quick above 100

Other than some big red marks from stones that managed to get me like a good'un a good day had

Roast dinner now and some motivation to give it a quick clean tomorrow
This is my neck of the woods. I know of that pub, just north of Buntingford. I went in there once years ago, and know exactly what you mean.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Abroad?

Is that Wales then, or England?

Biker's Nemesis

38,689 posts

209 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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moanthebairns said:
Renthal utral light obviously.....
Be interstering where you could fit a 45 tooth rear.


moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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cmaguire said:
Abroad?

Is that Wales then, or England?
laugh
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