Thoughts on first bike - CBR600F
Discussion
To play devil's advocate a bit, I think litre bikes have a place on the road. I'm not going to argue about talent etc. but in the real world fast road riding is relatively low cornering speeds, massive acceleration, braking, and repeat. Always being the correct gear, with incredible torque access, is a distinct advantage when you're coming out of the bends. By contrast cornering speed is usually limited by hazards, visibliity, or talent, long before you reach the advantages 600cc offer.
But that says nothing for the experience of course. Pretty much all bikes are very fast and very competent, you just get what you want then argue everything else is s
t. But that equally applies to this argument as well of course. CBR600Fs are good bikes, and there was a time when they were premium, but now they are old, and apparently inexplicably expensive.
If you want one buy it. But just bear in mind it's an old bike so may need additional maintenance. It's not hard.
But that says nothing for the experience of course. Pretty much all bikes are very fast and very competent, you just get what you want then argue everything else is s
t. But that equally applies to this argument as well of course. CBR600Fs are good bikes, and there was a time when they were premium, but now they are old, and apparently inexplicably expensive. If you want one buy it. But just bear in mind it's an old bike so may need additional maintenance. It's not hard.
Prof Prolapse said:
To play devil's advocate a bit, I think litre bikes have a place on the road. I'm not going to argue about talent etc. but in the real world fast road riding is relatively low cornering speeds, massive acceleration, braking, and repeat. Always being the correct gear, with incredible torque access, is a distinct advantage when you're coming out of the bends. By contrast cornering speed is usually limited by hazards, visibliity, or talent, long before you reach the advantages 600cc offer.
But that says nothing for the experience of course. Pretty much all bikes are very fast and very competent, you just get what you want then argue everything else is st. But that equally applies to this argument as well of course. CBR600Fs are good bikes, and there was a time when they were premium, but now they are old, and apparently inexplicably expensive.
If you want one buy it. But just bear in mind it's an old bike so may need additional maintenance. It's not hard.
For sure, they definitely have a place. I guess I'm talking from my own experience, where I was riding my 110bhp 600 almost everywhere in the powerband and revving the tits of it everywhere. I moved to a 180bhp 1000, and that sort of riding seemed a little daft, given the torque advantages lower in the rev range. But that says nothing for the experience of course. Pretty much all bikes are very fast and very competent, you just get what you want then argue everything else is s
t. But that equally applies to this argument as well of course. CBR600Fs are good bikes, and there was a time when they were premium, but now they are old, and apparently inexplicably expensive. If you want one buy it. But just bear in mind it's an old bike so may need additional maintenance. It's not hard.
Prof Prolapse said:
To play devil's advocate a bit, I think litre bikes have a place on the road. I'm not going to argue about talent etc. but in the real world fast road riding is relatively low cornering speeds, massive acceleration, braking, and repeat. Always being the correct gear, with incredible torque access, is a distinct advantage when you're coming out of the bends. By contrast cornering speed is usually limited by hazards, visibliity, or talent, long before you reach the advantages 600cc offer.
But that says nothing for the experience of course. Pretty much all bikes are very fast and very competent, you just get what you want then argue everything else is st. But that equally applies to this argument as well of course. CBR600Fs are good bikes, and there was a time when they were premium, but now they are old, and apparently inexplicably expensive.
If you want one buy it. But just bear in mind it's an old bike so may need additional maintenance. It's not hard.
Yeah, I would agree with that. I rode the current GSX-R1000R recently. You're up to 130 leptons out of a corner before you can blink. Quite what you're supposed to do with that on the road, I have no idea.. But that says nothing for the experience of course. Pretty much all bikes are very fast and very competent, you just get what you want then argue everything else is s
t. But that equally applies to this argument as well of course. CBR600Fs are good bikes, and there was a time when they were premium, but now they are old, and apparently inexplicably expensive. If you want one buy it. But just bear in mind it's an old bike so may need additional maintenance. It's not hard.
I think that's why road bike engines like the 1050 triples are great. You get loads of stomp low down where you can appreciate it on the road, without getting too far into banned territory. Or the 2 valve Ducati's.
SO after checking eBay and Autotrader I thought I would have a look on Gumtree, found this which the picture is taken about 5 mins from my house...
https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/cbr-600...
Looks quite clean? and in a preferred colour scheme.
https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/cbr-600...
Looks quite clean? and in a preferred colour scheme.
Looks tidy and a good advert having scanned over it.
My missus bought a 2000 X registered version last year for £1450 IIRC but with loads of paperwork and recent discs with a few spares & a topbox.
It seems about on the money price wise and definitely worth a view if nothing else being as it's so close to you.
I enjoy riding her bike when I get chance, a very good bike by all accounts.
My missus bought a 2000 X registered version last year for £1450 IIRC but with loads of paperwork and recent discs with a few spares & a topbox.
It seems about on the money price wise and definitely worth a view if nothing else being as it's so close to you.
I enjoy riding her bike when I get chance, a very good bike by all accounts.
MotorsportTom said:
Looks tidy and a good advert having scanned over it.
My missus bought a 2000 X registered version last year for £1450 IIRC but with loads of paperwork and recent discs with a few spares & a topbox.
It seems about on the money price wise and definitely worth a view if nothing else being as it's so close to you.
I enjoy riding her bike when I get chance, a very good bike by all accounts.
Cool, well there is the hole travel cost too so it being down the road is handy and looks clean, i've text and asked for the reg so i can HPI it and do a MOT history check too.My missus bought a 2000 X registered version last year for £1450 IIRC but with loads of paperwork and recent discs with a few spares & a topbox.
It seems about on the money price wise and definitely worth a view if nothing else being as it's so close to you.
I enjoy riding her bike when I get chance, a very good bike by all accounts.
Danm1les said:
SO after checking eBay and Autotrader I thought I would have a look on Gumtree, found this which the picture is taken about 5 mins from my house...
https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/cbr-600...
Looks quite clean? and in a preferred colour scheme.
Nice looking thing, don’t let carbs worry you too much 1000’s of bike have them.https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/cbr-600...
Looks quite clean? and in a preferred colour scheme.
Ilovejapcrap said:
Danm1les said:
SO after checking eBay and Autotrader I thought I would have a look on Gumtree, found this which the picture is taken about 5 mins from my house...
https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/cbr-600...
Looks quite clean? and in a preferred colour scheme.
Nice looking thing, don’t let carbs worry you too much 1000’s of bike have them.https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/cbr-600...
Looks quite clean? and in a preferred colour scheme.
anonymous said:
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Yeah true, however the FI on the F4i model wasn't the best. They ran really rich with the stock can and would puff soot quite a bit. As above, I put a power commander on mine which took out loads of fuel at low / mid throttle openings. Another 15-20 miles out the tank and much more responsive. Almost essential really.For anyone interested, download the ton of maps on the powercommander site for this bike and see for yourself. Yes custom mapping is the way.
Dgr90 said:
That always blows my mind, I ride lazy on a 600 and it still feels fast enough - When people comment about how big the difference is on a 1000 I just cant imagine it (my 600 is the fastest thing I have ridden).
On 600 you feel speed increasing even if you go below 80mph, because it takes longer and the bike gets more loud both engine and exhaust-wise. On a 1000 you don’t even notice when you cross that 80mph, it happens so fast and the bikes haven’t even woken up by that speed, especially if you start shortshifting it. A 1000, even sportsbike 1000, has same amount of torque at 3-4000rpm that a 600 has at 10000rpm, and weight difference is neglectible, just think about it.
A 1000 is very desceptive in terms of building speed, I stopped riding mine it city traffic, they barely get out of idle rpms but are already too fast. I prefer 600 in the city, easier, friendlier, and you can work it more which makes it fun. I ride my 2002 F4i daily and it is still fun.
TwoStrokeNut said:
I also had an F4i CBR6. It was a nice bike, although it did need to be flogged to get it to move.
Although I prefer it to an SV, it's not all one way. Up until 9k, the SV has noticabely more punch. So you basically have to go down at least one more gear on the CBR to overtake and also slip the clutch more pulling away. Keep the CBR above that though and it's obviously quicker.
Suspension is also miles better than the cheap crap on an SV.
Flogging is 600’s middle name, that’s why they are fun, especially in the speed restricted world we live in.Although I prefer it to an SV, it's not all one way. Up until 9k, the SV has noticabely more punch. So you basically have to go down at least one more gear on the CBR to overtake and also slip the clutch more pulling away. Keep the CBR above that though and it's obviously quicker.
Suspension is also miles better than the cheap crap on an SV.
600 also learns you to work the gearbox correctly, as mentioned by others here. Uphill hairpin in wrong gear and you almost choke the engine, while 1000 will pull you out of your mistake. Even on flat surface, wrong gear in 600 and open throttle gives no propulsion for uncomfortably long time.
Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Thursday 22 February 20:39
TwoStrokeNut said:
anonymous said:
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Yeah sure. I rode a friends first gen R6 whilst I had the CBR. It was much better everywhere to be honest. More go even low down and it loved to rev. Quicker steering, better brakes, suspension etc.. The first models weren't much more inclined either.Still, F4i is friendlier, easier to push in corners (at least for me, I’m less scared on it because of its slower steering and less aggressive sitting position), and significantly more comfortable. And it’s just as much fun to ride on the street as 675. On track it would be different, of course, but even a 15 year old bike is mostly unflustered on the street.
Prof Prolapse said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
You said it - irrationally, like in very.
2011 vs 2002-2007? Not much difference at all.
The suspension on 600F4i is fully adjustable.
The throttle response is smooth.
The power is more than enough for fun.
The comfort is perfect (handlebars above tripple clamp, comfortable seat, proper fairings). Honda built quality.
For me the SV650S is the nothing bike, even though I am fond of Suzuki (GSXR).
Prett sure the CBR600F fully adjustable suspension stopped ~2005 in UK market.2011 vs 2002-2007? Not much difference at all.
The suspension on 600F4i is fully adjustable.
The throttle response is smooth.
The power is more than enough for fun.
The comfort is perfect (handlebars above tripple clamp, comfortable seat, proper fairings). Honda built quality.
For me the SV650S is the nothing bike, even though I am fond of Suzuki (GSXR).
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Seeing the bike Saturday morning hopefully.
I have found an old advert for the bike from google, but when you click through the link doesn’t work, anyone know a way to recover it/see the ad somehow?
https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/honda-c...
I have found an old advert for the bike from google, but when you click through the link doesn’t work, anyone know a way to recover it/see the ad somehow?
https://www.gumtree.com/p/honda-motorbikes/honda-c...
To be fair I wont have anyone at my house if I'm selling something to some random I've never met before...
If the bike looks ok you'll have an address for the seller from the V5 and the receipt that you receive from the seller (assuming you ask for one/ get one) - especially something like a bike with how thefts are these days don't want to advertise where your pride and joy is kept to potential scum of the earth
If the bike looks ok you'll have an address for the seller from the V5 and the receipt that you receive from the seller (assuming you ask for one/ get one) - especially something like a bike with how thefts are these days don't want to advertise where your pride and joy is kept to potential scum of the earth
Edited by Lee_sec on Friday 23 February 15:23
Lee_sec said:
To be fair I wont have anyone at my house if I'm selling something to some random I've never met before...
If the bike looks ok you'll have an address for the seller from the V5 and the receipt that you receive from the seller (assuming you ask for one/ get one)
There's always an element of trust in a private sale, but if you can't verify address and it's not their vehicle to sell you're screwed.If the bike looks ok you'll have an address for the seller from the V5 and the receipt that you receive from the seller (assuming you ask for one/ get one)
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