Street Triple or MT07?
Discussion
It needs that suspension work too. I had a quick ride of my mates and the engine was a peach but I've never ridden a worse suspended bike.
My hornet with shot suspension rode better. Neither end has any damping, the front have no feel and the rear just gently bounces it's way along the road.
Brakes were good though
My hornet with shot suspension rode better. Neither end has any damping, the front have no feel and the rear just gently bounces it's way along the road.
Brakes were good though
phatmanace said:
I have an er6(n) - and have had it for coming up on 2 years - first big bike.
I quite like it - I think the fit and finish is probably a little budget, but a little surprised at the mostly negative feedback on them here.
Everybody on here is a riding God and keen Top Trumps players.I quite like it - I think the fit and finish is probably a little budget, but a little surprised at the mostly negative feedback on them here.
SidG said:
Cheers ringsound, I know what you mean. I’m getting into biking to enjoy it and be able to switch off from it all while riding (still concentrate obviously! You guys know what I mean!).
From the little riding I’ve done (CBT and DAS), I know it’s going to grow into a passion, especially come the nicer weather. All training and tests were done in really crap weather.
Problem I’m having is no dealerships are letting me test ride as I only passed a couple of weeks ago. There are so many bikes I have sat on and thought wow!
Quality feel of the new Kawasaki Z650 impressed me (Also 0% at the moment) Think it may be between that and a newish MT07 now based on budget/insurance/running costs and easy for a new rider to get experience/have fun.
Tough deciding when I can’t test ride any bike though!
Each to their own, but why buy a new bike? If you are not that confident, better to learn the ropes on something that you are not too arsed about, non? I can't emphasise enough the need for practising your riding skills (not just nipping out for a bimble) and would recommend reading (and implementing) Twist of the Wrist 2 and other bike riding books. I have an excellent book by Reg Pridmore.From the little riding I’ve done (CBT and DAS), I know it’s going to grow into a passion, especially come the nicer weather. All training and tests were done in really crap weather.
Problem I’m having is no dealerships are letting me test ride as I only passed a couple of weeks ago. There are so many bikes I have sat on and thought wow!
Quality feel of the new Kawasaki Z650 impressed me (Also 0% at the moment) Think it may be between that and a newish MT07 now based on budget/insurance/running costs and easy for a new rider to get experience/have fun.
Tough deciding when I can’t test ride any bike though!
Get comfortable and natural with the controls and a feel for the braking and cornering limits of the bike being beyond where you think they are.
Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 25th January 09:19
Appreciate your reply MC Bodge.
What appeals to me the most about the bikes I have mentioned is that they should be fun to ride and are affordable. I'm starting riding relatively late and want to get something that I want to ride all the time and hopefully should be reliable. I have looked at cheaper bikes local to me and to be honest choice is limited, I can either get something older at £2-3k or the newer models at £4-4.5K. I'm fortunate enough to afford a newer bike and If I do decide to change/upgrade in a year or two, hopefully won't lose too much on a 1-2 year old bike.
Think I read on here someone getting a newish MT-10 as a first bike. I'm not that ambitious (or confident) so I thought a 1-2 year old MT07 or Z650 would be a good starting point.
Cheers
What appeals to me the most about the bikes I have mentioned is that they should be fun to ride and are affordable. I'm starting riding relatively late and want to get something that I want to ride all the time and hopefully should be reliable. I have looked at cheaper bikes local to me and to be honest choice is limited, I can either get something older at £2-3k or the newer models at £4-4.5K. I'm fortunate enough to afford a newer bike and If I do decide to change/upgrade in a year or two, hopefully won't lose too much on a 1-2 year old bike.
Think I read on here someone getting a newish MT-10 as a first bike. I'm not that ambitious (or confident) so I thought a 1-2 year old MT07 or Z650 would be a good starting point.
Cheers
phatmanace said:
I have an er6(n) - and have had it for coming up on 2 years - first big bike.
I quite like it - I think the fit and finish is probably a little budget, but a little surprised at the mostly negative feedback on them here.
not negative, just not a fair fightI quite like it - I think the fit and finish is probably a little budget, but a little surprised at the mostly negative feedback on them here.
Street Triple should be compare to Z750/Z800
MC Bodge said:
Street Triple turning circle is large. A newbie might not have the confidence to gas it to get it smoothly and briskly around a mini roundabout.
Practice tight u turns feet up.
U-boat captains would struggle to do a U-turn on a triumph triple.Practice tight u turns feet up.
Due to my useless sense of direction my life is filled with constant Fred Flintstone style 3 point turns.
SidG said:
Appreciate your reply MC Bodge.
What appeals to me the most about the bikes I have mentioned is that they should be fun to ride and are affordable. I'm starting riding relatively late and want to get something that I want to ride all the time and hopefully should be reliable. I have looked at cheaper bikes local to me and to be honest choice is limited, I can either get something older at £2-3k or the newer models at £4-4.5K. I'm fortunate enough to afford a newer bike and If I do decide to change/upgrade in a year or two, hopefully won't lose too much on a 1-2 year old bike.
Think I read on here someone getting a newish MT-10 as a first bike. I'm not that ambitious (or confident) so I thought a 1-2 year old MT07 or Z650 would be a good starting point.
Cheers
Whatever you get you will be like a pig in sWhat appeals to me the most about the bikes I have mentioned is that they should be fun to ride and are affordable. I'm starting riding relatively late and want to get something that I want to ride all the time and hopefully should be reliable. I have looked at cheaper bikes local to me and to be honest choice is limited, I can either get something older at £2-3k or the newer models at £4-4.5K. I'm fortunate enough to afford a newer bike and If I do decide to change/upgrade in a year or two, hopefully won't lose too much on a 1-2 year old bike.
Think I read on here someone getting a newish MT-10 as a first bike. I'm not that ambitious (or confident) so I thought a 1-2 year old MT07 or Z650 would be a good starting point.
Cheers
t for the 1st couple of months. I was and still am 3 months in and I only have a lowly 95bhp honda hornet ..I want to move up to a speed triple 1050 as the hornet is a bit small for me, but I still feel like I haven't mastered the Hornet yet as the roads haven't been great since I passed. When I can ride that to a bit nearer it's potential then I'll feel better about trading up. This is a long journey hopefully on bikes even though I'm 38 so there's plenty of time to enjoy the many bikes out there.
cmaguire said:
To further validate my point, I rode that ER6N to Webbs in Peterborough and took their demo MT07 out. Returned feeling somewhat underwhelmed to park up next to their '13 STR demo. At that point I'd never ridden a STR (or base model). I'd read plenty of reviews saying how great it was but it had passed me by up till then. Brief chat with the salesman and off I went on that.
You went from a 71bhp 650cc Twin to a 74bhp 700cc twin, what kind of revelation were you expecting?OP - Honda have 0% deals on the CB650 at the moment. In the tests that I've seen they've done really well vs the competition. Worth a look. Or the second hand ones have some decent options:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Good luck with whatever you end up with.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Good luck with whatever you end up with.
Mr2Mike said:
cmaguire said:
To further validate my point, I rode that ER6N to Webbs in Peterborough and took their demo MT07 out. Returned feeling somewhat underwhelmed to park up next to their '13 STR demo. At that point I'd never ridden a STR (or base model). I'd read plenty of reviews saying how great it was but it had passed me by up till then. Brief chat with the salesman and off I went on that.
You went from a 71bhp 650cc Twin to a 74bhp 700cc twin, what kind of revelation were you expecting?A year later the MT07 came out, and what with the way all the journos were spunking their pants about it I figured I needed to know what was so bloody good about it.
I should have known better, I mostly take what journos say with a pinch of salt now.
It was a second bike thankfully.
OP,
My current bike is an ‘09 Street Triple R which I upgraded to from an ‘04 Suzuki SV650S.
For me, I find the Triumph the better bike by far. Although the Triumph engine lacks the midrange punch of the SV, it’s much smoother with a great induction soundtrack. It’s a really lovely, characterful engine in my opinion. As equally happy at 3000rpm, pootling around town, as it is lighting the shift lights at 12000rpm. I also find the quality of the components far better on the Triumph. Everything is finished to a much higher standard. I’m a little confused by comments about it being stiff. I’ve had mine set up and I barely notice the suspension doing anything beneath me, no matter what speed I’m doing. For reference, I’m only around 11 stone. I’m hoping to take the bike on track this summer so my opinion may change slightly then.
Here’s a few pics for you OP.
My current bike is an ‘09 Street Triple R which I upgraded to from an ‘04 Suzuki SV650S.
For me, I find the Triumph the better bike by far. Although the Triumph engine lacks the midrange punch of the SV, it’s much smoother with a great induction soundtrack. It’s a really lovely, characterful engine in my opinion. As equally happy at 3000rpm, pootling around town, as it is lighting the shift lights at 12000rpm. I also find the quality of the components far better on the Triumph. Everything is finished to a much higher standard. I’m a little confused by comments about it being stiff. I’ve had mine set up and I barely notice the suspension doing anything beneath me, no matter what speed I’m doing. For reference, I’m only around 11 stone. I’m hoping to take the bike on track this summer so my opinion may change slightly then.
Here’s a few pics for you OP.
CaptainSlow said:
Looking at the MCN reviews website is show the first gen non-R bikes at 98 bhp and the R's at 106 bhp. Post '13 bikes are all 106 bhp. Is this correct?
that would be weird, as far as i know the R and non R have no difference in their engine tuningi do remember seeing some 95BHP non-R for restricted A2, and I hear they are all special order
i check some Asian motorbike site, 08 non-R still claimed 106bhp
ringsound said:
CaptainSlow said:
Looking at the MCN reviews website is show the first gen non-R bikes at 98 bhp and the R's at 106 bhp. Post '13 bikes are all 106 bhp. Is this correct?
that would be weird, as far as i know the R and non R have no difference in their engine tuningi do remember seeing some 95BHP non-R for restricted A2, and I hear they are all special order
i check some Asian motorbike site, 08 non-R still claimed 106bhp
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/triump...
cmaguire said:
A year later the MT07 came out, and what with the way all the journos were spunking their pants about it I figured I needed to know what was so bloody good about it.
I should have known better, I mostly take what journos say with a pinch of salt now.
It was a second bike thankfully.
Yea, the journo's know nothing (and the 10's of thousands of people that bought one), ignore all the plaudits about the new Ducati V4 Panigale as well its a pile of sI should have known better, I mostly take what journos say with a pinch of salt now.
It was a second bike thankfully.
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To everyone who contributed to my original question on this thread I want to give a big thank you. Gave me so much info and advice. Looked at so many bikes and in the end went for this. Just felt right and ticks all the boxes and more as a first bike for me. Got a great deal and can't wait to pick it up soon.
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