Moto GP first race
Discussion
Jammez said:
Surely there has to be a difference between riding for HRC and a satellite team? Other than getting some orange stuff?
Possibly, but he’s paid as factory rider and gets factory backing with all parts. He’s got no chance of a ride directly with HRC, because he’s too old, not good enough, there are other riders they want, his antics at Ducati where he acted like a spoiled child and his sponsorship with Monster vs the HRC deal with Red Bull. Crutchlow could still come good with the right bike. I'd written Dovi off years ago as an also ran, and I rate the two riders as quite similar in terms of ability.
Incidentally pretty much all racers are fairly mercurial characters, spats with race teams are commonplace, iirc even Rossi had a falling out with Honda when he moved to Yamaha for the first time.
Incidentally pretty much all racers are fairly mercurial characters, spats with race teams are commonplace, iirc even Rossi had a falling out with Honda when he moved to Yamaha for the first time.
Gavia said:
Jammez said:
Surely there has to be a difference between riding for HRC and a satellite team? Other than getting some orange stuff?
Possibly, but he’s paid as factory rider and gets factory backing with all parts. He’s got no chance of a ride directly with HRC, because he’s too old, not good enough, there are other riders they want, his antics at Ducati where he acted like a spoiled child and his sponsorship with Monster vs the HRC deal with Red Bull. warch said:
Crutchlow could still come good with the right bike. I'd written Dovi off years ago as an also ran, and I rate the two riders as quite similar in terms of ability.
Incidentally pretty much all racers are fairly mercurial characters, spats with race teams are commonplace, iirc even Rossi had a falling out with Honda when he moved to Yamaha for the first time.
Didn’t Rossi leave Honda because they wouldn’t acknowledge his ability, insisting it was all their bike and not him.. Incidentally pretty much all racers are fairly mercurial characters, spats with race teams are commonplace, iirc even Rossi had a falling out with Honda when he moved to Yamaha for the first time.
The falling out was about them not giving him his championship winning bike that they’d promised.
warch said:
Crutchlow could still come good with the right bike. I'd written Dovi off years ago as an also ran, and I rate the two riders as quite similar in terms of ability.
Incidentally pretty much all racers are fairly mercurial characters, spats with race teams are commonplace, iirc even Rossi had a falling out with Honda when he moved to Yamaha for the first time.
Maybe he had the right bike in the Ducati, but acted like a cock and lost the ride as a result. Incidentally pretty much all racers are fairly mercurial characters, spats with race teams are commonplace, iirc even Rossi had a falling out with Honda when he moved to Yamaha for the first time.
Rossi wanted the 2001 bike and HRC kept promising and not delivering it. He messed them about royally with signing, and at the same time courted Ducati and Yamaha, Yamaha were much the same as Honda as he found out later, the bike was winning not him.
And he got fed up, hence the secret meetings under a tarp at Brno in the middle of the night with Brivio and Furusawa!
Honda are not like that now, I think Suppo and their main guy changed all that totally.
And he got fed up, hence the secret meetings under a tarp at Brno in the middle of the night with Brivio and Furusawa!
Honda are not like that now, I think Suppo and their main guy changed all that totally.
Dorna have had a massive problem in the last few years regarding Rossi hanging his gloves up. Attendances have dropped when he was injured and people have left the track when he has fallen off, he is/was MotoGP.
It must piss the up and coming youngsters off. Lorenzo and Marquez getting regularly booed on the podiums when they beat him. Sadly no other big personality has come up through the ranks to replace him, Simoncelli would have been better suited to the big bikes and was entertaining off the track.
Characters make racing and sadly I don't see anyone taking over the mantle yet. He has massively changed his riding style this year to be more competitive hanging off the bike like Marquez! I'd love to see him bow out as world champion.
It must piss the up and coming youngsters off. Lorenzo and Marquez getting regularly booed on the podiums when they beat him. Sadly no other big personality has come up through the ranks to replace him, Simoncelli would have been better suited to the big bikes and was entertaining off the track.
Characters make racing and sadly I don't see anyone taking over the mantle yet. He has massively changed his riding style this year to be more competitive hanging off the bike like Marquez! I'd love to see him bow out as world champion.
Stan the Bat said:
Far Cough said:
Just watching the qualifying and why oh why has Laverty got that ridiculous baseball cap on that's way too big for his head that he has his ears tucked under it....! Have a look at Colin Edwards for the correct cool look.
F'kin hilarious isn't it. 
epom said:
Lorenzo better improve. I bought a lovely Lorenzo hat and I don't want to be totes scarlet whilst wearing it 
I've had a Dovi helmet for a while now. Think I'm sitting pretty since he took that win like a boss
Loved the way he sat back and just picked them off as the race went on. Almost Rossi-escque I thought.Felt a bit sorry for Zarco but he will have his day.
I struggle to feel sorry for anyone who routinely uses the softest tyre and sort of hopes he can make them last.
It is a strength in some ways, early on and in qualifying but in races he is often the man falling backwards at the end of the race, and that is nothing to do with the bike or his talent, it is a bullish attitude in his head that makes him think he can do the impossible and make soft tyres last.
A better rider would learn to ride on the harder ones surely.
Yes it might work now and then, but you feel on a factory Yamaha, this would be beaten out of him.
It is a strength in some ways, early on and in qualifying but in races he is often the man falling backwards at the end of the race, and that is nothing to do with the bike or his talent, it is a bullish attitude in his head that makes him think he can do the impossible and make soft tyres last.
A better rider would learn to ride on the harder ones surely.
Yes it might work now and then, but you feel on a factory Yamaha, this would be beaten out of him.
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