Do you move badly parked motorbikes to park your bike?

Do you move badly parked motorbikes to park your bike?

Poll: Do you move badly parked motorbikes to park your bike?

Total Members Polled: 87

Yes, I move bikes to fit into the bay: 6%
No, it is not my property to touch: 75%
I have moved bikes, but generally I do not: 20%
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Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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dibblecorse said:
supercommuter said:
See, I don't get this. I would be fuming if someone took my bike off it's centre stand or side stand or dragged it (as you say the steering lock is on) and it is chained up. So they could squeeze their bike in.

What if there is a problem with your stand or some difference to the norm with a bike and you broke it by moving it, then what do you do?

What would you say to the owner of a bike your are moving when he returned? It may not be his fault as one or both of the bikes may have moved either side. I put my bike on it's stand and it should be in the same place when I return. I should not have to worry about some busy body with the correct biking credentials/experience judging my parking and taking it upon themselves to move my bike while I am not there. There are hundreds of bays within a few square miles in London...
What would I say .... easy, 'i'm moving it to make space for my bike' .... he / she can do with that info whatever they like ...
Same. Any ensuing silliness would be dealt with as it occurred.

supercommuter

Original Poster:

2,169 posts

103 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Pothole said:
dibblecorse said:
supercommuter said:
See, I don't get this. I would be fuming if someone took my bike off it's centre stand or side stand or dragged it (as you say the steering lock is on) and it is chained up. So they could squeeze their bike in.

What if there is a problem with your stand or some difference to the norm with a bike and you broke it by moving it, then what do you do?

What would you say to the owner of a bike your are moving when he returned? It may not be his fault as one or both of the bikes may have moved either side. I put my bike on it's stand and it should be in the same place when I return. I should not have to worry about some busy body with the correct biking credentials/experience judging my parking and taking it upon themselves to move my bike while I am not there. There are hundreds of bays within a few square miles in London...
What would I say .... easy, 'i'm moving it to make space for my bike' .... he / she can do with that info whatever they like ...
Same. Any ensuing silliness would be dealt with as it occurred.
Do you not mind people moving your bike when locked up?

Cadaver

32 posts

84 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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There's a POS scooter that always parks diagonally across a minimum of 2 bays where I work, there's 4 bays but if everyone parks considerately you can get 8 bikes in as they're really long. I always move the scooter, he still parks badly though, you'd think people would take a hint.

Just to add, I merely rotate it round inside the lines of the space, I don't actually wheel it around at all.

Edited by Cadaver on Thursday 26th April 12:24

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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supercommuter said:
Pothole said:
dibblecorse said:
supercommuter said:
See, I don't get this. I would be fuming if someone took my bike off it's centre stand or side stand or dragged it (as you say the steering lock is on) and it is chained up. So they could squeeze their bike in.

What if there is a problem with your stand or some difference to the norm with a bike and you broke it by moving it, then what do you do?

What would you say to the owner of a bike your are moving when he returned? It may not be his fault as one or both of the bikes may have moved either side. I put my bike on it's stand and it should be in the same place when I return. I should not have to worry about some busy body with the correct biking credentials/experience judging my parking and taking it upon themselves to move my bike while I am not there. There are hundreds of bays within a few square miles in London...
What would I say .... easy, 'i'm moving it to make space for my bike' .... he / she can do with that info whatever they like ...
Same. Any ensuing silliness would be dealt with as it occurred.
Do you not mind people moving your bike when locked up?
How would I possibly know if they do it gently and sympathetically? Thankfully, I rarely have to park in crowded bike bays, but when I did, I'm sure my bike was moved a few times and I've moved a few too, to get mine out. I'm not that precious that "somebody touching my bike" would not have me going full Pickering.

(Edited to add "not". No Ronnie behaviour here)


Edited by Pothole on Thursday 26th April 12:18

chris4652009

1,572 posts

85 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Not to get in, but have to get out. tossers

Zarco

17,886 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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chris4652009 said:
Not to get in, but have to get out. tossers
Snap. It was only a scooter (to get my own out paperbag). I wouldn't touch anything bigger for fear of inadvertently dropping it. I couldn't give a toss if someone moved my scooter in the same way, but then it's not precious to me.

Bikes getting touched/moved goes with the territory in busy commuter bays.

podman

8,872 posts

241 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Beware the flick up stand...Many a Ducati has hit the deck after someone has attempted to move it a few feet..!

...and Yes, I moved someones bike last week at a meet after I was partially blocked in, using a bit of common sense to stop hitting mine and someone elses bike together was the best solution.

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Cadaver said:
There's a POS scooter that always parks diagonally across a minimum of 2 bays where I work, there's 4 bays but if everyone parks considerately you can get 8 bikes in as they're really long. I always move the scooter, he still parks badly though, you'd think people would take a hint.

Just to add, I merely rotate it round inside the lines of the space, I don't actually wheel it around at all.

Edited by Cadaver on Thursday 26th April 12:24
If he wasn’t taking the hint I would be inclined to drag it out and leave it on double yellows

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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supercommuter said:
dibblecorse said:
supercommuter said:
See, I don't get this. I would be fuming if someone took my bike off it's centre stand or side stand or dragged it (as you say the steering lock is on) and it is chained up. So they could squeeze their bike in.

What if there is a problem with your stand or some difference to the norm with a bike and you broke it by moving it, then what do you do?

What would you say to the owner of a bike your are moving when he returned? It may not be his fault as one or both of the bikes may have moved either side. I put my bike on it's stand and it should be in the same place when I return. I should not have to worry about some busy body with the correct biking credentials/experience judging my parking and taking it upon themselves to move my bike while I am not there. There are hundreds of bays within a few square miles in London...
What would I say .... easy, 'i'm moving it to make space for my bike' .... he / she can do with that info whatever they like ...
Cool, you don't have the right to move anyone elses bike. I don't think it would go down too well with many bikers who may mistake it for you trying to steal it...I would anyway.

I started this thread to find out why people think it is OK. But I guess you are not going to explain it.
He's explained it.

supercommuter

Original Poster:

2,169 posts

103 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Pothole said:
supercommuter said:
dibblecorse said:
supercommuter said:
See, I don't get this. I would be fuming if someone took my bike off it's centre stand or side stand or dragged it (as you say the steering lock is on) and it is chained up. So they could squeeze their bike in.

What if there is a problem with your stand or some difference to the norm with a bike and you broke it by moving it, then what do you do?

What would you say to the owner of a bike your are moving when he returned? It may not be his fault as one or both of the bikes may have moved either side. I put my bike on it's stand and it should be in the same place when I return. I should not have to worry about some busy body with the correct biking credentials/experience judging my parking and taking it upon themselves to move my bike while I am not there. There are hundreds of bays within a few square miles in London...
What would I say .... easy, 'i'm moving it to make space for my bike' .... he / she can do with that info whatever they like ...
Cool, you don't have the right to move anyone elses bike. I don't think it would go down too well with many bikers who may mistake it for you trying to steal it...I would anyway.

I started this thread to find out why people think it is OK. But I guess you are not going to explain it.
He's explained it.
Given your previous comment about rarely using busy bike bays, I doubt you have ever moved bikes and you are simply just being an obtuse double hard goatee wearer 'dealing with any silliness as it occurred' laugh

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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supercommuter said:
Pothole said:
supercommuter said:
dibblecorse said:
supercommuter said:
See, I don't get this. I would be fuming if someone took my bike off it's centre stand or side stand or dragged it (as you say the steering lock is on) and it is chained up. So they could squeeze their bike in.

What if there is a problem with your stand or some difference to the norm with a bike and you broke it by moving it, then what do you do?

What would you say to the owner of a bike your are moving when he returned? It may not be his fault as one or both of the bikes may have moved either side. I put my bike on it's stand and it should be in the same place when I return. I should not have to worry about some busy body with the correct biking credentials/experience judging my parking and taking it upon themselves to move my bike while I am not there. There are hundreds of bays within a few square miles in London...
What would I say .... easy, 'i'm moving it to make space for my bike' .... he / she can do with that info whatever they like ...
Cool, you don't have the right to move anyone elses bike. I don't think it would go down too well with many bikers who may mistake it for you trying to steal it...I would anyway.

I started this thread to find out why people think it is OK. But I guess you are not going to explain it.
He's explained it.
Given your previous comment about rarely using busy bike bays, I doubt you have ever moved bikes and you are simply just being an obtuse double hard goatee wearer 'dealing with any silliness as it occurred' laugh
Depends on your (probably inaccurate, as the rest of your assumptions have been) definition of "dealing with". In my book, that includes laughing it off, explaining calmly what I'm doing and diffusing volatile situations with precious "don't touch my property, it's sacred even if I have parked like a total " morons with no argey-bargey. I'm not hard. I have rarely needed to be. Diplomacy is a good tool for dealing with tools.

heterosapien

18 posts

75 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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I'd never move one to get in, but moving bikes to get out seems like a daily occurrence recently.

There's a repeat offender on one of those 3-wheeler atrocities that keeps parking so close to me that I can't even raise the bike vertically enough to get off the side stand without bumping into it. I just wheel it forward, pull out, then wheel it back.

Next week I'm thinking about taking off my top case and putting it on the right pannier mount to make the bike nice and fat on that side.

supercommuter

Original Poster:

2,169 posts

103 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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heterosapien said:
I'd never move one to get in, but moving bikes to get out seems like a daily occurrence recently.

There's a repeat offender on one of those 3-wheeler atrocities that keeps parking so close to me that I can't even raise the bike vertically enough to get off the side stand without bumping into it. I just wheel it forward, pull out, then wheel it back.

Next week I'm thinking about taking off my top case and putting it on the right pannier mount to make the bike nice and fat on that side.
I always move bikes that block me in, i have to otherwise i would not be able to get home.

Moving them to park is not right IMO

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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supercommuter said:
heterosapien said:
I'd never move one to get in, but moving bikes to get out seems like a daily occurrence recently.

There's a repeat offender on one of those 3-wheeler atrocities that keeps parking so close to me that I can't even raise the bike vertically enough to get off the side stand without bumping into it. I just wheel it forward, pull out, then wheel it back.

Next week I'm thinking about taking off my top case and putting it on the right pannier mount to make the bike nice and fat on that side.
I always move bikes that block me in, i have to otherwise i would not be able to get home.

Moving them to park is not right IMO
I honestly can't see the difference.

supercommuter

Original Poster:

2,169 posts

103 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Pothole said:
supercommuter said:
heterosapien said:
I'd never move one to get in, but moving bikes to get out seems like a daily occurrence recently.

There's a repeat offender on one of those 3-wheeler atrocities that keeps parking so close to me that I can't even raise the bike vertically enough to get off the side stand without bumping into it. I just wheel it forward, pull out, then wheel it back.

Next week I'm thinking about taking off my top case and putting it on the right pannier mount to make the bike nice and fat on that side.
I always move bikes that block me in, i have to otherwise i would not be able to get home.

Moving them to park is not right IMO
I honestly can't see the difference.
Somebody has actively blocked you in meaning they are a bellend.

Somebody parking in a bay with courtesy and then having somebody park like a dick either side making it look like it is them does not give you the right to touch their property to park your bike.

pessimal

339 posts

82 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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this threads a good enough reason that all bikes should come with a centre stand as standard.