Shakey Byrne..

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Turn7

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Saturday 26th May 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
It might be another Ducati pool rider filling in while he is out. Someone like Michele Pirro, Alessandro Valia...or Casey Stoner...
.....JL99... wink

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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.....Troy Baylis ...........

Shadow R1

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177 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Turn7 said:
@Shane shakey Byrne said:
Update time.. apologies for putting this out so late but here's where I'm at.. I have 2 bruised lungs, all of my ribs fractured, 4 broken vertabrae, a broken neck in 2 places, broken septum, collarbone, multiple other back fractures, fortunately no paralysis which was a big bonus....
That sounds pretty bad, must have been a horrible crash.....

I think he could be out for the season, but really just want to see him recovered.
I don't think you will see him back racing from this.
Consider that it's taken Hutchy nearly a year to recover from his tt crash and that was one leg.
Mcpint is still recovering from his nw200 crash, again affecting one leg.
The injury's Shakey listed are in some of the most complex bits of the skeleton meaning the spine and neck.
Let alone the other fractures or soft tissue damage.

Lets hope that any news coming from him is positive.




Turn7

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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Shadow R1 said:
I don't think you will see him back racing from this.
Consider that it's taken Hutchy nearly a year to recover from his tt crash and that was one leg.
Mcpint is still recovering from his nw200 crash, again affecting one leg.
The injury's Shakey listed are in some of the most complex bits of the skeleton meaning the spine and neck.
Let alone the other fractures or soft tissue damage.

Lets hope that any news coming from him is positive.
Agreed, but dont forget both Hutchy and McPint had to regrow a good few inches bone and allow it to fuse, so much more time consuming.

Shakeys bone just need to repair breaks rather than bridge a gap.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Shadow R1 said:
Turn7 said:
@Shane shakey Byrne said:
Update time.. apologies for putting this out so late but here's where I'm at.. I have 2 bruised lungs, all of my ribs fractured, 4 broken vertabrae, a broken neck in 2 places, broken septum, collarbone, multiple other back fractures, fortunately no paralysis which was a big bonus....
That sounds pretty bad, must have been a horrible crash.....

I think he could be out for the season, but really just want to see him recovered.
I don't think you will see him back racing from this.
Consider that it's taken Hutchy nearly a year to recover from his tt crash and that was one leg.
Mcpint is still recovering from his nw200 crash, again affecting one leg.
The injury's Shakey listed are in some of the most complex bits of the skeleton meaning the spine and neck.
Let alone the other fractures or soft tissue damage.

Lets hope that any news coming from him is positive.
Agreed. You will never see him on a bike again. He's got a young family he will have to put them first. The surgeon said he couldn't believe he wasn't paralysed, the spinal cord must have been compressed but not damaged? Scary stuff.

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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markcoznottz said:
Shadow R1 said:
Turn7 said:
@Shane shakey Byrne said:
Update time.. apologies for putting this out so late but here's where I'm at.. I have 2 bruised lungs, all of my ribs fractured, 4 broken vertabrae, a broken neck in 2 places, broken septum, collarbone, multiple other back fractures, fortunately no paralysis which was a big bonus....
That sounds pretty bad, must have been a horrible crash.....

I think he could be out for the season, but really just want to see him recovered.
I don't think you will see him back racing from this.
Consider that it's taken Hutchy nearly a year to recover from his tt crash and that was one leg.
Mcpint is still recovering from his nw200 crash, again affecting one leg.
The injury's Shakey listed are in some of the most complex bits of the skeleton meaning the spine and neck.
Let alone the other fractures or soft tissue damage.

Lets hope that any news coming from him is positive.
Agreed. You will never see him on a bike again. He's got a young family he will have to put them first. The surgeon said he couldn't believe he wasn't paralysed, the spinal cord must have been compressed but not damaged? Scary stuff.
Completely agree on the paralysis thing. That will be the deciding factor IMO, he’s mentioned it a number of times and that feels like it’s going to be why he calls it quits.

Esceptico

7,527 posts

110 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Gavia said:
markcoznottz said:
Shadow R1 said:
Turn7 said:
@Shane shakey Byrne said:
Update time.. apologies for putting this out so late but here's where I'm at.. I have 2 bruised lungs, all of my ribs fractured, 4 broken vertabrae, a broken neck in 2 places, broken septum, collarbone, multiple other back fractures, fortunately no paralysis which was a big bonus....
That sounds pretty bad, must have been a horrible crash.....

I think he could be out for the season, but really just want to see him recovered.
I don't think you will see him back racing from this.
Consider that it's taken Hutchy nearly a year to recover from his tt crash and that was one leg.
Mcpint is still recovering from his nw200 crash, again affecting one leg.
The injury's Shakey listed are in some of the most complex bits of the skeleton meaning the spine and neck.
Let alone the other fractures or soft tissue damage.

Lets hope that any news coming from him is positive.
Agreed. You will never see him on a bike again. He's got a young family he will have to put them first. The surgeon said he couldn't believe he wasn't paralysed, the spinal cord must have been compressed but not damaged? Scary stuff.
Completely agree on the paralysis thing. That will be the deciding factor IMO, he’s mentioned it a number of times and that feels like it’s going to be why he calls it quits.
I am not a doctor but that sounds like a very bad state to be in and not something that could be recovered from quickly. Would surprise me if he came back but but then people with rational risk assessment capabilities don’t tend to race motorbikes.

egor110

16,897 posts

204 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Some just put the risk in a box and shut it away or rely on accidents happen to other people not me.

Fine until you do have a accident.

Tom Logan

3,228 posts

126 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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He's had a fantastic career in MotoGP and UK racing and has survived a major accident intact, your luck only goes so far.

I know how difficult it is to call it a day even at the level I raced at but there is life afterwards.

Time for him to pack it in IMO, you only need to look at what happened to some of the riders who said they couldn't stop.

Turn7

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23,635 posts

222 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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The only person that can make the decision to retire is the man himself, and Im not sure he will tbh....

He isnt a crasher by nature, but for sure, this kind of bang must make you think, and also add pressure from the family....

Lets just wish him a speedy recovery and see waht happens, these guys arent "normal" by any measurement.

Turn7

Original Poster:

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222 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Shakey Byrne said:
Today's been a difficult day, family and finds turned up and I just couldn't stay awake, I've had zero energy all day, it's been a tough one, on a far more positive note I managed to have a shave/trim so I no longer feel I look like a tramp and I have the iPad and a Turkish delight bar prepped ready and good to go for the super sport and WSB race 2 in a bit!!!!!

FourWheelDrift

88,560 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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I've felt he could have retired at the end of last year, this may well settle that decision especially if he's out for the rest of the year. He's also been doing a lot more presenting and he's a natural at that, well he is compared to Haydon.

Zarco

17,901 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
I've felt he could have retired at the end of last year, this may well settle that decision especially if he's out for the rest of the year. He's also been doing a lot more presenting and he's a natural at that, well he is compared to Haydon.
My gut feeling too.

Biker 1

7,746 posts

120 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Holy st those are bad injuries! Amazed he didn't end up as a vegetable in a wheel chair, what with spinal damage & a broken neck.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Guintoli says he isn't prepared to push that final 1% on the bsb circuits, only a few meet standards that dorna would accept for Moto gp. I guess he means the tilka type tracks where you can slide and tumble forever as long as a (your?) bike doesn't hit you, the safe fencing is miles away.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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markcoznottz said:
Guintoli says he isn't prepared to push that final 1% on the bsb circuits, only a few meet standards that dorna would accept for Moto gp. I guess he means the tilka type tracks where you can slide and tumble forever as long as a (your?) bike doesn't hit you, the safe fencing is miles away.
The bikes have probably outgrown some of the BSB tracks.
Although it has definitely improved the spectacle, the technological dumbing down of BSB has made it more dangerous in my opinion.

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Agree on bikes getting too quick for some tracks. They’ binned off Mallory and Mondello Park a few years ago.

Cadwell is close to being too narrow for modern bikes, Oulton doesn’t have a lot of fun off in some places, Snetterton infield puts you very close to other parts of the track with zero run off.

Only Donington and Silverstone are super safe altbough donny has the odd let where fencing is quite close too.

I wish they’d run at Anglesey it’s an awesome track.

Reality is that if you’re running in a domestic series you have to ride the tracks that are there and some of them will be less than optimal

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Gavia said:
Agree on bikes getting too quick for some tracks. They’ binned off Mallory and Mondello Park a few years ago.

Cadwell is close to being too narrow for modern bikes, Oulton doesn’t have a lot of fun off in some places, Snetterton infield puts you very close to other parts of the track with zero run off.

Only Donington and Silverstone are super safe altbough donny has the odd let where fencing is quite close too.

I wish they’d run at Anglesey it’s an awesome track.

Reality is that if you’re running in a domestic series you have to ride the tracks that are there and some of them will be less than optimal
Look how slow these bikes are....

https://youtu.be/XNdCF2CtTvE

Turn7

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Monday 28th May 2018
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140hp vs 230 plus.....


Whilst I can see the point of this arguement, its never raised when anti's comment on the TT is it ?

chunder27

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209 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Lol binning off Mallory, Croft and Mondello was nothing to do with speed or danger.

Who owns the series? Palmer, who runs BSB events at more rounds on his tracks than anywhere else?

If you are talking about safety, Cadwell is the least safe of all of them yet we still run there eh.

There are more Irish riders in the series than ever yet we don't go to Mondell, coz its a bit bumpy, give over.

Croft is the only track in the North East yet we go to sodding Assen

And Mallory is perfectly safe yet we go to the dump that is Silverstone down the road.

It's all about money, oh and just you wait til you see what they have done to your viewing at Brands GP circuit lol!