Fireblade - which one?

Fireblade - which one?

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Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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ccr32 said:
Out of interest, was there anything in particular? Probably missed the post(s) where you described whatever it was in detail.. !
Known issue with 08-11 blades, where the crank shaft primary gear warps. It then rattles, before shearing all the teeth off.

Honda were aware of it and offered 5yr extended warranty for this issue. Unfortunately all are out of warranty now.

New engine or new crank is the fix.

garypotter

1,503 posts

150 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Esceptico said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
There's only one, an early one but with the foxeye lights, the 893cc lump, in Urban Tiger colours. Like mine.




I do like the look of the fox eye version. Friend had one in white, red and blue back in the day.
Love the bike I have a 95 Black and burgundy model, now creeping up in price probably worth now what i paid for it 15 years ago so as an investment !!

Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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The 954 is arguably the best if you want a good all rounder. They dont depreciate, are comfortable and look good (IMO), but arnt that quick in comparison to a modern 'blade.

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Mr OCD said:
Known issue with 08-11 blades, where the crank shaft primary gear warps. It then rattles, before shearing all the teeth off.

Honda were aware of it and offered 5yr extended warranty for this issue. Unfortunately all are out of warranty now.

New engine or new crank is the fix.
Yep same happened to my 2010 @ 15,000 miles. The 2008 I had previously didn't knacker the crank but it did like to drink oil.




Steve Bass

10,194 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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I had a 2010 HRC and it was typical Honda, did everything well but wasn’t in anyway exciting.
Was by far the best at huge wheelies however.

In all honesty im not sure why you want to tick off yhe ‘ownership’ list??? Trying to catch up and establish your credentials with a full “owned” list???
New bikes are so much better in every way. Your V4 was the epitome of modern machinery and nothing over 3 years old will compare.
And if you were spooked by a missing washer on a new bike you’ll st a cat at what you’ll find on an old bike smile

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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I never keep bikes long enough to find out how awful they are hehe

Esceptico

Original Poster:

7,497 posts

109 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Steve Bass said:
I had a 2010 HRC and it was typical Honda, did everything well but wasn’t in anyway exciting.
Was by far the best at huge wheelies however.

In all honesty im not sure why you want to tick off yhe ‘ownership’ list??? Trying to catch up and establish your credentials with a full “owned” list???
New bikes are so much better in every way. Your V4 was the epitome of modern machinery and nothing over 3 years old will compare.
And if you were spooked by a missing washer on a new bike you’ll st a cat at what you’ll find on an old bike smile
If I pay £3k for a twenty year old bike, which won’t depreciate, I expect a few problems. If I pay £20k for a new bike that will shed £3-£4K in a year I expect
trouble free riding.

Of course newer bikes are “better” objectively (more powerful, better electronics, etc) but on the road I am only ever using a fraction of their capability anyway so doesn’t really
make any noticeable difference. On track pretty much the same - I am the limiting factor, not the bike!

Buying bikes is generally an irrational,
emotional process. Otherwise the whole classic bike/car market wouldn’t exist.

In any case I am thinking that maybe having two sportsbikes in the garage probably doesn’t make sense. If I get a second bike it would be better to get something completely different to the GSXR. Not sure what though.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Steve Bass said:
New bikes are so much better in every way. Your V4 was the epitome of modern machinery and nothing over 3 years old will compare.
So much better in every way? 2nd gen BMW 1000 RR 5 years old.

Moulder

1,466 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Esceptico said:
In any case I am thinking that maybe having two sportsbikes in the garage probably doesn’t make sense. If I get a second bike it would be better to get something completely different to the GSXR. Not sure what though.
You could do a "what bike" thread, that might help.

shunter V8

788 posts

165 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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If you are tall the 954 is the last big blade and supposed to be the best. I have had one for more years than I care to remember and it has been faultless and still looks like new. I did try the 1000rr when it came out but I felt it was too small for me.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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jjones said:
Yep same happened to my 2010 @ 15,000 miles. The 2008 I had previously didn't knacker the crank but it did like to drink oil.
I got twice the mileage ... same year though. After 3yrs and 31,000 miles trouble free I cut my losses and got rid. Awesome bikes otherwise.

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

125 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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shunter V8 said:
If you are tall the 954 is the last big blade and supposed to be the best. I have had one for more years than I care to remember and it has been faultless and still looks like new. I did try the 1000rr when it came out but I felt it was too small for me.
954 is tiny front to back!
It's wide, though not wider than the 2010 CBR1000RR.
954 is definitely more comfortable then later models.

PTF

4,323 posts

224 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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I had a new 2014 blade. Kept it for 18 months and 4k miles.


Pros:
Massive power. Probably not compared to the new generation of litre bikes, but still mental.
Quality feel. Typical honda, everything feels familiar.
Dash. Great readout, easy to read at a glance. Instant MPG was handy for the commute
Surprisingly good on fuel

Cons:
Small. I'm 6ft and a solid build and found it a bit cramped. Ok once at 70+ but below that a bit sore after 1/2 hr riding
Looooong gearing. 95 ish in first, so clutch slipping round town. Also means that exploring the revs leads to silly speeds
Plastic tank cover. I use a magnetic tank bag on the commute, so this was annoying. Resorted to a Kriega tailpack, which fitted over the passenger seat.
Stickers! I'm never having a bike with that many stickers again (mine was HRC colours). Had a panel replaced under warranty for stickers lifting off.
Weird engine braking. I'm guessing exhaust valves? When slowing into a roundabout the engine braking seemed to vary, even at low speed (so not slipper clutch). Meant running into corners a bit too hot sometimes
Insurance. Being a new bike it was about £300 fully comp for me.
Lack of soul. In the end i fell out of love with it. It just didn't excite me for something costing me every month.


Currently got a yr2000 929.


Pros:
Power. Not as much as the 2014 bike, but still silly power. Hardly need more than 6k rpm to make very fast progress
Metal tank! I can use my tank bag.
Massive storage under pillion seat. Insert key and turn, seat pops up on hinges exposing a compartment big enough for a pair of trainers or a 4 pint pack of stella.
Looks. Personally i find it the most attractive of all blade models. Angular like the 954 but not too angular, with hints of the older models.
Comfy. Still not as comfy as something like a VFR, but it's not far off. It feels like a sports tourer next to the 2014 model.
Insurance. Just renewed my classic policy and as an average covering the 929 fully comp cost about the same as filling the tank with petrol.
Gearing. Shorter, so you can explore the revs more, though that does still lead to massive speed.

Cons;
Lack of info on the dash. No MPG gauge, which i think came in on the 954 onwards.
At a push i suppose the throttle mapping is a little bit snatchy coming back on the throttle, but only a little bit.
I'll be honest i'm struggling to think of many cons. I guess it's not as sporty as the 2014 bike, but that suited me just fine.
They don't make them anymore!


So for me the 929 fits the practical yet sporty road bike job really well. Fuel injected. Good brakes. Sexy forks. Power. Handling. Build quality. I paid strong money for mine but it's one owner and spotless with only 12k miles.


Edited by PTF on Friday 8th June 09:47

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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PTF said:
I paid strong money for mine but it's one owner and spotless with only 12k miles.
Did that bike come from the Nottingham area ?

PTF

4,323 posts

224 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Shadow R1 said:
PTF said:
I paid strong money for mine but it's one owner and spotless with only 12k miles.
Did that bike come from the Nottingham area ?
I did look at one at Vertu Nottingham, but i think that was higher mileage and had no service history

Mine came from wales and i paid a bit more