Lorenzo, gaining respect?
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Seen some footage of him being asked some questions and he seemed pretty humble. When asked if Rossi could've won on Lorenzo's Ducati he said that Rossi's Ducati was a more complicated bike. Rossi said we'll never know giving credit to Lorenzo. They are all hero's in my eyes (some I like more than others) But come on Ducati, for the sake of a wider tank? FFS 
I have heard this about Ducati, Rossi wanted more stuff doing and they wouldn't do it, he admits as much when he was touted y them in 02, one of the reasons why he didn't go there as it would have been the bike winning not him, much the reason why he left Honda.
I give Lorenzo credit for not giving up like Rossi did.
I give Lorenzo credit for not giving up like Rossi did.
macdeb said:
Seen some footage of him being asked some questions and he seemed pretty humble. When asked if Rossi could've won on Lorenzo's Ducati he said that Rossi's Ducati was a more complicated bike. Rossi said we'll never know giving credit to Lorenzo. They are all hero's in my eyes (some I like more than others) But come on Ducati, for the sake of a wider tank? FFS
I suppose because 10ths of a second count if he's more comfortable with a wider tank the chances are he'll be a little quicker. Bearing in mind he's a two times world champion in MotoGp on a bike that suits him he's always going to be very quick. Good to see him back at the frontMet him a few years back (about 5...how time flies) and had a chat while he didn't eat his lunch. He was a nice guy. Very quiet, polite and gave me the benefit of the doubt when I asked some stupid questions. He also offered to sign a couple of posters for my kids 
Based purely on that, i've always backed him at MotoGP so it would be good to see him back near the front again.
Based purely on that, i've always backed him at MotoGP so it would be good to see him back near the front again.
He shouldn’t have been as roundly mocked as he was. He was certainly struggling and I though his head had gone, but I didn’t subscribe to the haters approach. The Dear George stuff (whilst quite witty), has been jumped on by too many of those who like to boo riders, or cheer when they fall off.
What’s been noticeable is that when he does poorly my Facebook feed and the MotoGP threads on here seem to be quite long, but when he succeeds they die a death very quickly with virtually nobody commenting at all. Some threads are almost as long as when Rossi does well, which is a shame as it’d be great to see respect being given to all riders no matter who wins or loses.
The silence speaks volumes and it’s a bit poor IMO, although the majority of races this year haven’t been very good either.
What’s been noticeable is that when he does poorly my Facebook feed and the MotoGP threads on here seem to be quite long, but when he succeeds they die a death very quickly with virtually nobody commenting at all. Some threads are almost as long as when Rossi does well, which is a shame as it’d be great to see respect being given to all riders no matter who wins or loses.
The silence speaks volumes and it’s a bit poor IMO, although the majority of races this year haven’t been very good either.
Stan the Bat said:
I think he brings most of the criticism on himself by his (past) attitude.
It’s comments like that that bug me. What do you want him to be? Another Rossi? Just someone who sits back and accepts it when they’re losing? You won’t get a winner if you act like that. I’m not sure I’ve seen him throw a public wobbly, or if he has I bet they’re very limited. What we seem to have is a view of him being stroppy based on second hand reports and everyone lapping it up. Hodgson reported something a few years back after the Rossi / Márquez Sepang incident that wasn’t true, but people still reference it as an example.
Crutchlow whinges publicly at every race and was an embarrassment at Ducati, but nobody seems too bothered by that.
Edited by Gavia on Tuesday 19th June 19:08
Gavia said:
I’m not sure I’ve seen him throw a public wobbly, or if he has I bet they’re very limited. What we seem to have is a view of him being stroppy based on second hand reports and everyone lapping it up. Hodgson reported something a few years back after the Rossi / Márquez Sepang incident that wasn’t true, but people still reference it as an example.
Stan the Bat said:
"It’s bike racing and the only thing that should matter is how they ride."
Yes, but it's not though is it.
It should be. Back to ITV2 and Love Island for you. Yes, but it's not though is it.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Last one I saw was at the Catalunya GP 2018 when he took a radge on his crew chief, old boy Gi Gi had to go over and say something to him.
That was in the garage at the back where tempers were flaring as whatever changes they’d made hadn’t worked and he was suddenly off the pace. I’m pretty sure that most riders get wound up with their crew, it just seems we remember Lorenzo more than anyone else. 
Gavia said:
That was in the garage at the back where tempers were flaring as whatever changes they’d made hadn’t worked and he was suddenly off the pace. I’m pretty sure that most riders get wound up with their crew, it just seems we remember Lorenzo more than anyone else.
You don't see Rossi or Marquez going on like that.Vinales is another petulant brat.
Gavia said:
Stan the Bat said:
Crutchy is a big whinger too--ok
But it’s not Love Island, we’re not voting for or against people because of their personality. It’s bike racing and the only thing that should matter is how they ride. 
ker. Which is absolutely your choice. But I’d want to at least be able to say “But he’s nice/decent/fair/funny bloke.”How do you explain the phenomen of the underdog?
Back on topic, when was Lorenzo without respect? I’m sure there’s an army of people willing him to fail but I think most of them would still concede that he’s f
king fast and that the Ducati is famously “fickle”. Edited by 308mate on Tuesday 19th June 19:57
chunder27 said:
I have heard this about Ducati, Rossi wanted more stuff doing and they wouldn't do it, he admits as much when he was touted y them in 02, one of the reasons why he didn't go there as it would have been the bike winning not him, much the reason why he left Honda.
I give Lorenzo credit for not giving up like Rossi did.
I've read it somewhere as well, Rossi said that during his time at Ducati asking for something from mechanics was like begging for a favor. I give Lorenzo credit for not giving up like Rossi did.
Obviously, that is not how it is supposed to be.
One year at Ducati was enough for VR46.
boyse7en said:
Met him a few years back (about 5...how time flies) and had a chat while he didn't eat his lunch. He was a nice guy. Very quiet, polite and gave me the benefit of the doubt when I asked some stupid questions. He also offered to sign a couple of posters for my kids
Based purely on that, i've always backed him at MotoGP so it would be good to see him back near the front again.
Met him when he was having a sBased purely on that, i've always backed him at MotoGP so it would be good to see him back near the front again.
t weekend in Texas (before the jump start) and got a photo with him. So while he has appeared grumpy to the public, I'm sure he'll do anything for the fans as you've said. It's great to see him back at the front where he belongs. Ho Lee Kau said:
I've read it somewhere as well, Rossi said that during his time at Ducati asking for something from mechanics was like begging for a favor.
Obviously, that is not how it is supposed to be.
One year at Ducati was enough for VR46.
So why did he stay for the second year then?Obviously, that is not how it is supposed to be.
One year at Ducati was enough for VR46.
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