New Suzuki at the Intermot Show

New Suzuki at the Intermot Show

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NITO

1,093 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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^ That looks more like the original Kat, but probably a bit too focused from a sales perspective. Those high bars although looking a bit gash, probably make it a great daily.

I'd think of it more as a commuter rather than a dream bike.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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So it's a GSX-1000S engine, with new 1990s themed plastics and a fuel tank you can empty in under a hundred miles?

Oh.

Perhaps one for the middle-aged somethings with found memories, and too much expendible income then?

It is fun to pretend afterall.

laugh







tdm34

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7,370 posts

211 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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If the tank size is the only issue then I think Suzuki have done a good job myself, it's 12 litres or 2.6 gallons in old moneywhich at 45 mpg (based on real riding of a GSX-S1000) that's about 120 miles to a tankful or two hours on our roads, no big deal imo. obviously Suzuki wanted to make the tank shape
as close to the original Katana as possible so capacity suffered, i've spoken to two colleagues who where at the unveiling in Germany yesterday and they say apart from the number plate mount the bike's a stunner.

NITO

1,093 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Prof Prolapse said:
Perhaps one for the middle-aged somethings with found memories, and too much expendible income then?

laugh
As a manufacturer, isn't this the most lucrative market that you'd be keen to corner?

It's not like there is a huge influx of new riders sadly.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Totally agree. I don't have any issue with a manufacturer selling motorcycles that I don't personally like, especially if it helps them fund motorcycles I do.

A spade remains a spade however.

I'd reserve final judgement until the road tests come out, it's just very difficult to see how they're going to produce an objectively decent motorcycle when they're undertaking such significant compromises like range, just so they can emulate some, frankly, outdated styling. That sort of engineering brief really doesn't bode well for the overall final product does it?

Also that 150bhp engine, despite Suzuki's website being keen to mention the fact it's derived from the "detuned K5 GSXR", it is presumably the one already fitted to the GSX-1000. Suzuki's marketeers have decided when telling you about their product, to ignore the reference to a current bike it's fitted to (probably on the basis it is a bit beige and they want this new product to sound exciting), and have instead decided to reference a thirteen year old bike it was never actually fitted to. That to me tells me even Suzuki think the engine can't stand up by itself, and typical Suzuki marketeers just throw some "Rs" at the product, until you like it. We all await in the GSXR-1000RRR with active suspension, I have no doubt it will be great, but don't try and say it's name infront of your dog because he'll start fking growling at you.

But hey, I've never ridden it. Perhaps I'm wrong and it's going to be amazing, but I'm just not convinced at this stage.













Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 3rd October 10:33

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

126 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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What I think is the bigger news is that Suzuki fitted braided brake lines on 2019 L7 GSXR-1000.
I think this is a scandal.
IMHO, Suzuki should RETROFIT braided lines on ALL L7 GSXR1000, from 2016 on!

graham22

3,295 posts

206 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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GSX550EF replica, not Katana.

Too watered down to me, needs clip one and longer seat.

rodericb

6,767 posts

127 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Prof Prolapse said:
So it's a GSX-1000S engine, with new 1990s themed plastics and a fuel tank you can empty in under a hundred miles?

Oh.

Perhaps one for the middle-aged somethings with found memories, and too much expendible income then?

It is fun to pretend afterall.

laugh
I wonder if you would buy the bits in a package and put them onto a GSX-1000S? A Kit-Kat if you will...

podman

8,872 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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BrassMan said:
Nice, but the tank is too small and the bars are too high. Something to split the difference between the GSX-S and GSX-R would nave been nice.

Agreed, that looks much more like it..

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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rodericb said:
I wonder if you would buy the bits in a package and put them onto a GSX-1000S? A Kit-Kat if you will...
clap Looks vastly better with the clip ons, but also looks like a fairly extreme riding position. A set of flat bars might be a reasonable compromise.

NITO

1,093 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Flat bars and a longer screen imho.

But it'll be interesting to see how it rides with the taller bars, I do agree they look odd though. I also think the rear seat looks too short. I could seriously see this as a bit of a commuting work horse though for me.

NAS

2,543 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Have seen it live yesterday.

Proportions are wrong IMHO: The top/plastics is/are -much- too short. They had 2 original Katanas next to it, and they were much longer. The new one looks very much like a caricature.

tdm34

Original Poster:

7,370 posts

211 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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NITO said:
Flat bars and a longer screen imho.

But it'll be interesting to see how it rides with the taller bars, I do agree they look odd though. I also think the rear seat looks too short. I could seriously see this as a bit of a commuting work horse though for me.
There's a screen option in the accessories




NITO

1,093 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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^ Thanks very much for that, I think it'll look a lot better for it.

I saw an ebay ad for the new Katana from one of the dealers which states...
"a range of genuine accessories will include a tinted screen and coloured seat, plus carbon engine covers and coloured brake calipers"

It's great to see the pictures for it though, I haven't seen any of the accessories. Are they available to view online?

edit: I guess that's a glimpse of the coloured seat in the background with the red accents...

tdm34

Original Poster:

7,370 posts

211 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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We've already taken a couple of deposits for the bike, can't wait to get my hands on our Demo bike, and i'm sure the
Japanese Accessory manufacturers will have loads of bits available via the Webike website.

Other Genuine accessory photo's..






NITO

1,093 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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That's good to hear, any word on price? I'm expecting based on the GSXS a sub 12k mark?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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The Classic Motorcycle Mechanics Retro Reboot of the Katana was a lot more appealing.


gareth_r

5,740 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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BrassMan said:
... the bars are too high...
At least it will be easy to fit lower handlebars (if they clear the bodywork).

NITO

1,093 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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gareth_r said:
At least it will be easy to fit lower handlebars (if they clear the bodywork).
And if they don't it'll be just like the original lol!! (cue every bike has a dent on the fuel tank)


Biker's Nemesis

38,694 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I like that.