Motorcycle live 2018
Discussion
chris4652009 said:
I Went back up for a second visit on Saturday, it was a hell of lot busier than opening weekend was.
It was literally ram packed by mid morning
Glad I went on Thurs as it was busy but you had plenty of time to look around at the bikes and stallsIt was literally ram packed by mid morning
I do enjoy going as it's a lads day out for many who go. I took 5 others in my Disco. it's 100 miles from most of us and a few others it's another 30 further than that.
I was unsure if it was going to be any good this year with just 3 halls as the classic car and bike show the week before had 8 halls
But I still struggled to get to look at everything from 10AM till almost 5.
I went on Sunday, I got there for 9 am and it was pleasantly empty, by 12pm I'd had enough, very busy.
Highlights: BMW S1000RR, I sat on both and I fitted the narrower bike very well, the handle bar configuration seemed very comfortable too, the lead forward didn't seem to extreme. The tank shape makes your knees want to clamp it, which is good as it's my next bike.
I liked the Indian 1200 FTR, I liked the Indian display. CCM, I don't quite get it. Norton, beautiful V4 and the Superlght, they seem to be good prices too for what will be the best-looking bikes on the road. I’m wondering how Norton production will cope, I'm sure they will get quite a few orders.
Highlights: BMW S1000RR, I sat on both and I fitted the narrower bike very well, the handle bar configuration seemed very comfortable too, the lead forward didn't seem to extreme. The tank shape makes your knees want to clamp it, which is good as it's my next bike.
I liked the Indian 1200 FTR, I liked the Indian display. CCM, I don't quite get it. Norton, beautiful V4 and the Superlght, they seem to be good prices too for what will be the best-looking bikes on the road. I’m wondering how Norton production will cope, I'm sure they will get quite a few orders.
I guess my standards must be lower than some, went with a couple of friends on Saturday and had a great time, I love the fact that you can sit on so many different bikes under one roof.
CCM had some nice stuff, but once you added in extras a lot of their £10k bikes became £20k bikes very quickly.
Norton have some lovely bikes in the SS/RR and the new superlight.
BMW S1000RR for me with the new headlights looks fabulous.
Did anyone see the moving CBR Fireblade that leaned over, a lot of people were fighting the bike to hang on.
The Ariel bikes, I just don't get, they look nice enough, but the frame digs into your thighs, the most uncomfortable bikes in the world and they are not cheap.
CCM had some nice stuff, but once you added in extras a lot of their £10k bikes became £20k bikes very quickly.
Norton have some lovely bikes in the SS/RR and the new superlight.
BMW S1000RR for me with the new headlights looks fabulous.
Did anyone see the moving CBR Fireblade that leaned over, a lot of people were fighting the bike to hang on.
The Ariel bikes, I just don't get, they look nice enough, but the frame digs into your thighs, the most uncomfortable bikes in the world and they are not cheap.
Dakkon said:
I guess my standards must be lower than some, went with a couple of friends on Saturday and had a great time, I love the fact that you can sit on so many different bikes under one roof.
CCM had some nice stuff, but once you added in extras a lot of their £10k bikes became £20k bikes very quickly.
Norton have some lovely bikes in the SS/RR and the new superlight.
BMW S1000RR for me with the new headlights looks fabulous.
Did anyone see the moving CBR Fireblade that leaned over, a lot of people were fighting the bike to hang on.
The Ariel bikes, I just don't get, they look nice enough, but the frame digs into your thighs, the most uncomfortable bikes in the world and they are not cheap.
I sat on an Ariel and it was a stretch to get to the bars, can't be comfy on a run, can it?CCM had some nice stuff, but once you added in extras a lot of their £10k bikes became £20k bikes very quickly.
Norton have some lovely bikes in the SS/RR and the new superlight.
BMW S1000RR for me with the new headlights looks fabulous.
Did anyone see the moving CBR Fireblade that leaned over, a lot of people were fighting the bike to hang on.
The Ariel bikes, I just don't get, they look nice enough, but the frame digs into your thighs, the most uncomfortable bikes in the world and they are not cheap.
I enjoyed the day, but unless a lot more younger people become involved in motorcycles this event will become extinct within 30 years judging by the average age of attendee.
Whilst I massively warmed to the look of the S1000RR ' in the flesh' I was actually surprised at so r of the details i.e black plastic bits which looked unbelievably cheap and nasty e.g the infills around the tail etc.
Its obvious your money goes on the engine and electronics and not much else.
Its obvious your money goes on the engine and electronics and not much else.
knitware said:
I sat on an Ariel and it was a stretch to get to the bars, can't be comfy on a run, can it?
I enjoyed the day, but unless a lot more younger people become involved in motorcycles this event will become extinct within 30 years judging by the average age of attendee.
There's a problem with motorcycling take up in this country now, not sure what the answer is. I've lost count of the number of people I've spoken to who said they like or love bikes but would kill themselves. I enjoyed the day, but unless a lot more younger people become involved in motorcycles this event will become extinct within 30 years judging by the average age of attendee.
ash reynolds said:
knitware said:
I sat on an Ariel and it was a stretch to get to the bars, can't be comfy on a run, can it?
I enjoyed the day, but unless a lot more younger people become involved in motorcycles this event will become extinct within 30 years judging by the average age of attendee.
There's a problem with motorcycling take up in this country now, not sure what the answer is. I've lost count of the number of people I've spoken to who said they like or love bikes but would kill themselves. I enjoyed the day, but unless a lot more younger people become involved in motorcycles this event will become extinct within 30 years judging by the average age of attendee.
Admittedly, this is more towards general buying, but some of this must carry over to motorbikes
I spent the day on Thursday working on the Silverstone section of the Yamaha Stand, and I agree, most of the people that came up to see the race bikes were of the 40+ generation.
Even then, it was the MX bikes that seemed to get the most attention, with very few people wanting to look at the R1's and R1M's
I spent the day trying to talk the MD of Yamaha to lend me one of these..... I didn't get very far
RemyMartin81D said:
Whilst I massively warmed to the look of the S1000RR ' in the flesh' I was actually surprised at so r of the details i.e black plastic bits which looked unbelievably cheap and nasty e.g the infills around the tail etc.
Its obvious your money goes on the engine and electronics and not much else.
They aren’t finished ... the rear brake light was also missing ... Its obvious your money goes on the engine and electronics and not much else.
knitware said:
I went on Sunday, I got there for 9 am and it was pleasantly empty, by 12pm I'd had enough, very busy.
Highlights: BMW S1000RR, I sat on both and I fitted the narrower bike very well, the handle bar configuration seemed very comfortable too, the lead forward didn't seem to extreme. The tank shape makes your knees want to clamp it, which is good as it's my next bike.
I liked the Indian 1200 FTR, I liked the Indian display. CCM, I don't quite get it. Norton, beautiful V4 and the Superlght, they seem to be good prices too for what will be the best-looking bikes on the road. I’m wondering how Norton production will cope, I'm sure they will get quite a few orders.
CCM production is currently bursting too which shows you the popularity of the brand.Highlights: BMW S1000RR, I sat on both and I fitted the narrower bike very well, the handle bar configuration seemed very comfortable too, the lead forward didn't seem to extreme. The tank shape makes your knees want to clamp it, which is good as it's my next bike.
I liked the Indian 1200 FTR, I liked the Indian display. CCM, I don't quite get it. Norton, beautiful V4 and the Superlght, they seem to be good prices too for what will be the best-looking bikes on the road. I’m wondering how Norton production will cope, I'm sure they will get quite a few orders.
They offer you individuality which simply isnt available on most other brands.
I'm buying the new fat tracker but my only reservation is how long its taking to build and deliver bikes. Sounds like they also need someone to liaise with the customers about built dates etc.
I'm sure they'll get there but they are busting at the seams currently and they dont want to fail now or the reputation goes
FocusRS3 said:
CCM production is currently bursting too which shows you the popularity of the brand.
They offer you individuality which simply isnt available on most other brands.
I'm buying the new fat tracker but my only reservation is how long its taking to build and deliver bikes. Sounds like they also need someone to liaise with the customers about built dates etc.
I'm sure they'll get there but they are busting at the seams currently and they dont want to fail now or the reputation goes
I hope it works out for them. My pal had a ccm supermoto a few years ago and the build quality was interesting to say the least. They offer you individuality which simply isnt available on most other brands.
I'm buying the new fat tracker but my only reservation is how long its taking to build and deliver bikes. Sounds like they also need someone to liaise with the customers about built dates etc.
I'm sure they'll get there but they are busting at the seams currently and they dont want to fail now or the reputation goes
Watched the bike show on telly the other day, did a piece on the CCM range, and believe they are, or have moved to a new factory to help with demand?
Went on Friday, not too packed walking around, had a good look at the Norton's and CCM, can't say the big four stands caught my eye too much.
The size over the years has really shrunk tho, and can't see it getting to the event it used to be.
Went on Friday, not too packed walking around, had a good look at the Norton's and CCM, can't say the big four stands caught my eye too much.
The size over the years has really shrunk tho, and can't see it getting to the event it used to be.
rigga said:
Watched the bike show on telly the other day, did a piece on the CCM range, and believe they are, or have moved to a new factory to help with demand?
Went on Friday, not too packed walking around, had a good look at the Norton's and CCM, can't say the big four stands caught my eye too much.
The size over the years has really shrunk tho, and can't see it getting to the event it used to be.
Agree i thought the show would be bigger but actually didnt take that long to get around. Not much caught my eye from the major Jap stands , if anything the Kawazaki stand was smaller than at the Excel and disappointing .Went on Friday, not too packed walking around, had a good look at the Norton's and CCM, can't say the big four stands caught my eye too much.
The size over the years has really shrunk tho, and can't see it getting to the event it used to be.
I'm looking forward to getting my CCM....certainly something different and the new Flat Tracker won 2018 Retro of the year
Bit mehhhh. Did it in under 2 hours with the Mrs, then off home. Surprised how small it’s got.
And bike makers need to have a serious look at the average attendees. It’s all groups of old men. No young people and no women. And certainly no young women. Once the current generation of older riders stop pratting about on oversized adv bikes I’m not sure who’ll be left?
And bike makers need to have a serious look at the average attendees. It’s all groups of old men. No young people and no women. And certainly no young women. Once the current generation of older riders stop pratting about on oversized adv bikes I’m not sure who’ll be left?
Janluke said:
I hope it works out for them. My pal had a ccm supermoto a few years ago and the build quality was interesting to say the least.
Was his one of the Suzuki engine models or even older? as said before I had one and it was the worst bike I've ever owned, the engine was the only good thing about it.FocusRS3 said:
I'm looking forward to getting my CCM....certainly something different and the new Flat Tracker won 2018 Retro of the year
I'd be really interested to hear how the ownership experience turns out for you, I'm sure they have come a long way RemyMartin81D said:
Whilst I massively warmed to the look of the S1000RR ' in the flesh' I was actually surprised at so r of the details i.e black plastic bits which looked unbelievably cheap and nasty e.g the infills around the tail etc.
Its obvious your money goes on the engine and electronics and not much else.
I think the idea is that whilst the base spec is £15k-ish, they encourage you to go for the 'M' and then you get all the extra carbon bits.Its obvious your money goes on the engine and electronics and not much else.
chris4652009 said:
Janluke said:
I hope it works out for them. My pal had a ccm supermoto a few years ago and the build quality was interesting to say the least.
Was his one of the Suzuki engine models or even older? as said before I had one and it was the worst bike I've ever owned, the engine was the only good thing about it.Yes a lime green R30, looked great for the time. As you say engine was good but it was always off the road for some wee niggle or other. It just felt like they needed to spend a little more time and a little more money on them. I had a KTM Duke2 at the same time and which was Honda like in comparison.
However it looks like CCM have had a lot of investment and a few changes since those days so hopefully they are a different beast now
Janluke said:
chris4652009 said:
Janluke said:
I hope it works out for them. My pal had a ccm supermoto a few years ago and the build quality was interesting to say the least.
Was his one of the Suzuki engine models or even older? as said before I had one and it was the worst bike I've ever owned, the engine was the only good thing about it.However it looks like CCM have had a lot of investment and a few changes since those days so hopefully they are a different beast now
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