Specific recommendation on bike - Touring and Track

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Just to make it more difficult for me I popped into my Local Kawasaki today and had a look around and sat on the Z1000 SX. not to big, Seem'ed comfy and looks not bad

Anyone have any experience of this bike?

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Well after looking at Kawasaki, BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, KTM and a few more this week I'm really leaning towards the MT09 in SP form. I like the 10 but don't really want another inline 4 and was hoping to look at a different style of engine.
I did look at the Speed and Street Triple but even the new one's looked and felt when sitting on them to be no different that my 08 Speed 10 years ago. IE old compared to the looks of the MT09/10.

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ahhh you lot are too helpful

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Stupid question I think but will ask anywho

MT09 Sp Vs MT10 SP. Apart from the Extra Cylinder and power they are pretty much the same?

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3DP said:

RemaL said:

Stupid question I think but will ask anywho

MT09 Sp Vs MT10 SP. Apart from the Extra Cylinder and power they are pretty much the same?

Nope. MT09 SP is a budget bike, sprinkled with premium farkles.

MT10 is a premium sports bike (R1), watered down and cheapened to make a super naked. The SP gets back some premium bits, but for me is a bit too much money compared to the standard MT10 to be worth it. The TFT clocks are nice though.

In my view, in spite of looks, the MT10 is a very different bike to MT09 and MT07.

Ride them both though as we are just voices on the internet!!

Cheers all for the feedback. I will do just that in the new year. Ride both and see what I like best

Not saying I will end up with a MT but i've liked them for a while and they intend to be my first choice to look into

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spareparts said:

When touring, fuel range has to be a factor - it doesn’t have to be 300miles; but I have done long tours on my 1098R which does 120/tank at best, and fuel range has been an issue(!). It isn’t about “getting off the bike is good after 100 miles”, but it is more the issue of “there is no fuel stop in range before the tank runs dry” when you find yourself in the middle of some great twisties somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
What is the MT10’s range? Is it going to be much better than an R1? The V4 Tuono is also thirsty.

And then there is the issue of saddle comfort. And that means suspension also needs to be adjustable for the extra luggage weight, and better than budget as you will find on the MT09.

With a budget of 8k, I don’t actually think there are that many good options, unless you are willing to compromise on several things.

The H2 fuel light will show between 80-90 miles not matter how gentle you ride. So I would be happy with a realistic 150 mile tank range.

Why I was originally looking at the Tracer GT, mainly for price, Heated comfort seat, Heated grips and big screen.
Budget I can be realistically 10k+ or 15K+ but I don't really want to spend to much on it. Mainly as I have a car I will be looking at in the New Year when it's officially released at the detroit motor show

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As I have spotted a R1200RS and been looking at them since the bike show I have a test ride booked for the 5th Jan.

will report back after the test ride

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SteelerSE said:

RemaL said:

As I have spotted a R1200RS and been looking at them since the bike show I have a test ride booked for the 5th Jan.

will report back after the test ride

Would love to know what you think as that's one of the bikes that I'd be interested in at some point in the future to replace mine.

I will report back. having sat and looked at one I like the looks of it. It's been highly recommended by a few PH'ers and I know of one local from a BMW bike specialist which was only a few k on and 2 years old for a good price.

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Chipchap said:

On an R1200RS make certain that it is the Sport SE as it comes with the following over a non Sport SE :-

Heated grips
Up & Down quickshifter
ESA suspension
Multiple riding modes
ABS ?
Pannier brackets
Cruise Control

and perhaps a few more smaller things

It's the SE i'm looking at and will take my time on the test ride. I will be taking it to wales

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Bugger. Went a dealer I have seen a nice R1200RS that I want.
Thing is when I got there my thoughts went to " Do I need another bike" ahhhh and " it's a want rather than need"

So I talked to the dealer, looked at the bike and still thinking .......ummmmm

So close yet so far.
I have the space for the bike, money and wife's said " if you want it get it" but still making me think.

Anyone else get this feeling. I'm happy to spend a few hundred on man toys and stuff for the garage but just seemed when it went to spending 10k ... on another toy. Always brought up with don't spend frivolously.

is this just me.
I'm not asking if I should get the bike. as I know it's up to me and not the internet.
Just wondering if anyone else ever thinks the same some times?

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CaptainSlow said:

One of my work colleagues was like that. After some headaches he went to his GP who referred him to a specialist. Brain tumour, dead within three months. He didn't make 30 years old.

And hope that was a joke

if not then

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very very true