Best helmet under £150?
Discussion
CaptainSlow said:
Touched a nerve? The examples you give are completely different.
Trying something on in a store and/or getting their advice and then buying the exact thing elsewhere to save a few quid is the act of a tosser.
Anyhow, I'm out giving any help to you.
No, its the act of someone cost savvy and likes to get a bargain.Trying something on in a store and/or getting their advice and then buying the exact thing elsewhere to save a few quid is the act of a tosser.
Anyhow, I'm out giving any help to you.
But here i'll charge you £20 for a Big Mac just because I let you try a sample of it first. Moron.
EazyDuz said:
They look good but build quality is inferior to Caberg imo and their tinted visor is such a gimmick and flimsy
Please qualify what you mean about the tinted visor.When doing so, bear in mind:
"Gimmick
noun
a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade. "
My helmet definitely had a tinted internal visor which slid up and down on demand. It was as strong as it needed to be, considering they were internal and protected from the elements by the main visor. I used it for two winters and three summers and it was perfectly serviceable.
Pothole said:
Please qualify what you mean about the tinted visor.
When doing so, bear in mind:
"Gimmick
noun
a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade. "
My helmet definitely had a tinted internal visor which slid up and down on demand. It was as strong as it needed to be, considering they were internal and protected from the elements by the main visor. I used it for two winters and three summers and it was perfectly serviceable.
The gimmick is how it drops down. It does so in this weird, slow way like its being dropped by gears activated by a button, but to raise it you have to pull a lever.When doing so, bear in mind:
"Gimmick
noun
a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade. "
My helmet definitely had a tinted internal visor which slid up and down on demand. It was as strong as it needed to be, considering they were internal and protected from the elements by the main visor. I used it for two winters and three summers and it was perfectly serviceable.
Every other manufacturer just has a big old lever up and down giving decent feedback to the fingers. No need for this daft button and lever nonsense.
'a trick or device used to attract business or attention'
Attention being the shoppers in the store trying it out.
The methods may not be the best design compared to others manufacurers but it's functionality is excellent. I use mine often and never really gave it a second thought about how to retract it in all honesty, it's not really a bother. Nothing gimmicky about it imo because I won't be buying another helmet without one.
EazyDuz said:
The gimmick is how it drops down. It does so in this weird, slow way like its being dropped by gears activated by a button, but to raise it you have to pull a lever.
Every other manufacturer just has a big old lever up and down giving decent feedback to the fingers. No need for this daft button and lever nonsense.
'a trick or device used to attract business or attention'
Attention being the shoppers in the store trying it out.
Mine didn't have that, just a lever mechanism. (R-PHA)Every other manufacturer just has a big old lever up and down giving decent feedback to the fingers. No need for this daft button and lever nonsense.
'a trick or device used to attract business or attention'
Attention being the shoppers in the store trying it out.
ETA: and the "flimsy" part?
EazyDuz said:
CaptainSlow said:
Touched a nerve? The examples you give are completely different.
Trying something on in a store and/or getting their advice and then buying the exact thing elsewhere to save a few quid is the act of a tosser.
Anyhow, I'm out giving any help to you.
No, its the act of someone cost savvy and likes to get a bargain.Trying something on in a store and/or getting their advice and then buying the exact thing elsewhere to save a few quid is the act of a tosser.
Anyhow, I'm out giving any help to you.
But here i'll charge you £20 for a Big Mac just because I let you try a sample of it first. Moron.
No wonder you're riding round on 9 year old tyres...can you not find a cheap enough online tyre fitter.
CaptainSlow said:
It's an act of a time-wasting tightwad. Next time that shop may not be there to act as your fitting service.
No wonder you're riding round on 9 year old tyres...can you not find a cheap enough online tyre fitter.
Local garage gave me a quote. I used Blackcircles, using the same garage as a fitting service came in £40 cheaper. I see that as trying to con the average joe who might not think to look online. No wonder you're riding round on 9 year old tyres...can you not find a cheap enough online tyre fitter.
A fool and his money are soon parted, fool
EazyDuz said:
Local garage gave me a quote. I used Blackcircles, using the same garage as a fitting service came in £40 cheaper. I see that as trying to con the average joe who might not think to look online.
A fool and his money are soon parted, fool
So you gave a local supplier the chance to price match which you didn't do to a local business with the lid. Time-wasting leach.A fool and his money are soon parted, fool
Cylon2007 said:
seveb said:
I'm not sure Sharp rating is the best way to choose a helmet. I'm also possibly too old to know what a modular helmet is, but it might just be a flip front helmet ?
Get the helmet that fits the best - this is most important aspect. When you hit a tree or a curb your brain is going to carry on moving when your head stops so the helmet shell and poly filling need to slow the head down slowly to offer some cushioning to the brain and it can't do that if it's too big because then the helmet stops and the head carries on for a split second then hits the poly filling, not great. The head needs to be reasonably firmly pressed into the lining so it hits the poly interior very soon after impact.
Then get a good fastening - double D ring is better than the other kinds of chin strap as every time you put it on, you adjust it to be firm - it might be a hot day or a cold day and your face shrinks and expands with the temperature but the fixed chin straps don't. If the strap is loose the helmet can come off and then it's useless.
Then focus on quietness, ventilation, visor options etc - whatever you feel is more appropriate for you.
This Get the helmet that fits the best - this is most important aspect. When you hit a tree or a curb your brain is going to carry on moving when your head stops so the helmet shell and poly filling need to slow the head down slowly to offer some cushioning to the brain and it can't do that if it's too big because then the helmet stops and the head carries on for a split second then hits the poly filling, not great. The head needs to be reasonably firmly pressed into the lining so it hits the poly interior very soon after impact.
Then get a good fastening - double D ring is better than the other kinds of chin strap as every time you put it on, you adjust it to be firm - it might be a hot day or a cold day and your face shrinks and expands with the temperature but the fixed chin straps don't. If the strap is loose the helmet can come off and then it's useless.
Then focus on quietness, ventilation, visor options etc - whatever you feel is more appropriate for you.
My Schuberth (more than £150 I know!) has a ratchet connection on the strap and that's WAY better than double D ring. The ratchet is adjusted every time you put the helmet on but it's WAY easier to use. All that said, as long as you follow the instructions for use correctly, and check and adjust regularly, then any of the approved fittings are good.
Finally, with regards to SHARP. If safety is your top priority then (after fit) SHARP is the only way to choose a helmet, There is no other independent system that tests all helmets using repeatable and published test methods in a consistent and comparative way beyond the current national/international standards.
You'll note the "if safety is your top priority" comment as for most of us, surprisingly, it's not. Venting, design, colours, extras, noise levels. makers name badge, association with racing, perceived image etc. all have their place and many helmets are chosen according to one or more of those criteria, above absolute levels of safety, on the basis that all helmets meet an acceptable minimum level of safety.
Edited by black-k1 on Wednesday 24th April 08:43
EazyDuz said:
CaptainSlow said:
So you gave a local supplier the chance to price match which you didn't do to a local business with the lid. Time-wasting leach.
Cry more Captain Cockwomble. Brick and mortar shops are under the kosh from the big online sites that run on wafer-thin margins. Using their time and generosity to let you try on a helmet, then sacking them off and ordering online to save a tenner is exactly what puts them against the wall.
Krikkit said:
EazyDuz said:
CaptainSlow said:
So you gave a local supplier the chance to price match which you didn't do to a local business with the lid. Time-wasting leach.
Cry more Captain Cockwomble. Brick and mortar shops are under the kosh from the big online sites that run on wafer-thin margins. Using their time and generosity to let you try on a helmet, then sacking them off and ordering online to save a tenner is exactly what puts them against the wall.
CaptainSlow said:
Quite...tossers like the OP are a drain on the bricks and mortars that are already suffering margin squeeze. He knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. Totally scummy behaviour...but seems to be an unpleasant person generally.
As I said cry and b
h and moan some more, it makes for entertaining reading. 
Went to J&S in Preston today expecting to buy a helmet in this budget but ended up with a £220 HJC rpha st. It was the most comfortable out of all that I tried, better shell quality, flip down sunglasses and has pinlock. Pretty much everything I could have asked for. How it feels long term remains to be seen.
Best helmet is the one that fits your heed the best. Simple.
And if you try on helmets in a shop, then buy it from the shop. Most will offer a deal.
If you try all their stock on and buy it online you're a fanny basically.
Try buying a battery on a Sat morning so you can go for a run with your mates from an online shop cause all the local shops have shut due to aforementioned fannys.
And if you try on helmets in a shop, then buy it from the shop. Most will offer a deal.
If you try all their stock on and buy it online you're a fanny basically.
Try buying a battery on a Sat morning so you can go for a run with your mates from an online shop cause all the local shops have shut due to aforementioned fannys.
Krikkit said:
He has a point.
Brick and mortar shops are under the kosh from the big online sites that run on wafer-thin margins. Using their time and generosity to let you try on a helmet, then sacking them off and ordering online to save a tenner is exactly what puts them against the wall.
It's a lot more than saving a tenner though. I went to a local shop for some textile trousers, I had done my research online (reviews) and fully intended to buy them in the shop. However the price difference was just too much (£80 more than they were on most of the online shops)Brick and mortar shops are under the kosh from the big online sites that run on wafer-thin margins. Using their time and generosity to let you try on a helmet, then sacking them off and ordering online to save a tenner is exactly what puts them against the wall.
I didn't buy them in the end, as to me, that's a huge amount of money. I have bought from that shop on plenty of other occasions
seveb said:
I'm not sure Sharp rating is the best way to choose a helmet. I'm also possibly too old to know what a modular helmet is, but it might just be a flip front helmet ?
Get the helmet that fits the best - this is most important aspect. When you hit a tree or a curb your brain is going to carry on moving when your head stops so the helmet shell and poly filling need to slow the head down slowly to offer some cushioning to the brain and it can't do that if it's too big because then the helmet stops and the head carries on for a split second then hits the poly filling, not great. The head needs to be reasonably firmly pressed into the lining so it hits the poly interior very soon after impact.
Then get a good fastening - double D ring is better than the other kinds of chin strap as every time you put it on, you adjust it to be firm - it might be a hot day or a cold day and your face shrinks and expands with the temperature but the fixed chin straps don't. If the strap is loose the helmet can come off and then it's useless.
Then focus on quietness, ventilation, visor options etc - whatever you feel is more appropriate for you.
Another vote for ^this^ advice.Get the helmet that fits the best - this is most important aspect. When you hit a tree or a curb your brain is going to carry on moving when your head stops so the helmet shell and poly filling need to slow the head down slowly to offer some cushioning to the brain and it can't do that if it's too big because then the helmet stops and the head carries on for a split second then hits the poly filling, not great. The head needs to be reasonably firmly pressed into the lining so it hits the poly interior very soon after impact.
Then get a good fastening - double D ring is better than the other kinds of chin strap as every time you put it on, you adjust it to be firm - it might be a hot day or a cold day and your face shrinks and expands with the temperature but the fixed chin straps don't. If the strap is loose the helmet can come off and then it's useless.
Then focus on quietness, ventilation, visor options etc - whatever you feel is more appropriate for you.
And also a +1 for HJC IS-17 - picked mine up last year from local bike shop as found HJC to be the best fit for my shaped head. Got mine for £135 as think it was the last of that design they had.
Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff