Question about exploiting sportsbike performance
Discussion
Birky_41 said:
No good saying that to me. I'm on my 5th Aprilia and have a soft spot for them
Ridden my gsxr less than 1000 miles this year and done 2 tracks vs my tuono on 6000 miles in 5 months
I could do next Sunday but would be a 7.30 start done by 10 as I'm working. Think I could drag Piginawig on that one as he'll be working too
Sounds good, bit of an earlier start for me to get over from Surrey but am up for going if the weathers decent, confirm later in the week?.Ridden my gsxr less than 1000 miles this year and done 2 tracks vs my tuono on 6000 miles in 5 months
I could do next Sunday but would be a 7.30 start done by 10 as I'm working. Think I could drag Piginawig on that one as he'll be working too
I’ve decided to hold off any future bike decisions until next spring now, what I really want is for this Honda V4 to actually come out!.
Hungrymc said:
Might it be possible that ....
1) you can exploit a superbike on the road. It will be when the moment is right. Which by definition will be less frequently than something with lesser power? So you certainly can exploit it as long as you’re comfortable registering some big numbers and can wait for the opportunities.
2) something grunty but will less outright power can be exploited more often and in some / many situations will be as quick as anything else (so many other factors limit speed on the road).
How the f
k does that become a pissing contest?
Yes mate and that is all i basically said!1) you can exploit a superbike on the road. It will be when the moment is right. Which by definition will be less frequently than something with lesser power? So you certainly can exploit it as long as you’re comfortable registering some big numbers and can wait for the opportunities.
2) something grunty but will less outright power can be exploited more often and in some / many situations will be as quick as anything else (so many other factors limit speed on the road).
How the f
k does that become a pissing contest?Dimmy knows best though.
yonex said:
Lindun said:
Wow are you that interested? Pick a track.
Nope. But if you're calling someone out....Pick your last three races. Unless you're a test rider, then just add a few tenths so that the other factory teams don't get wind of all this.
Me done on this one, hope you're having fun Yonex btw.
Lindun said:
They’re from a 1000cc bike. In an endurance race, but with faster traffic coming through and slower traffic to get past, two stints of c45 minutes a time, so paced, rather than balls out. As I mentioned before, at no point in the thread did I raise my racing background, that was Grindle about himself and yonex about me.
My view remains that sportsbikes can be exploited fully on the road in small(ish) blasts, or longer where you think there’s little chance of being caught.
I don't give a toss about your racing, which seemingly looks like club level? You maintain that someone who races wouldn't ask certain questions, becuase, well there's always someone faster. But you continue to ask those questions, whilst being a bit of a bMy view remains that sportsbikes can be exploited fully on the road in small(ish) blasts, or longer where you think there’s little chance of being caught.
h along the way?Everyone is entitlied to an opinion, but most would argue 5 secs of WOT puts your licence in danger on a modern superbike, anyone who says that they they can be exploited 'fully' on the road is deluded.
The older I am, the faster I was...T Shirts on back order
Seriously is no one sticking up for poor old Loon 
. Grindle, give it a rest, your posting rants and so called topic starters sound like there coming from either a lying teenager or a delusional adult .
Don't even bother replying to this tosh Lindun. And don't expect a response from me Grindle with your childish response, I have beer to drink for a week before my return .
. Grindle, give it a rest, your posting rants and so called topic starters sound like there coming from either a lying teenager or a delusional adult .Don't even bother replying to this tosh Lindun. And don't expect a response from me Grindle with your childish response, I have beer to drink for a week before my return .
Hungrymc said:
Might it be possible that ....
1) you can exploit a superbike on the road. It will be when the moment is right. Which by definition will be less frequently than something with lesser power? So you certainly can exploit it as long as you’re comfortable registering some big numbers and can wait for the opportunities.
2) something grunty but will less outright power can be exploited more often and in some / many situations will be as quick as anything else (so many other factors limit speed on the road).
This^^^, but compared to 10-15 years ago less opportunities combined with the consequences if caught, and around an extra 40-50 bhp have all had an influence. I've started to lose interest in having the latest and greatest sports bike now, and my next bike will be the first that isn't faster than the last one.1) you can exploit a superbike on the road. It will be when the moment is right. Which by definition will be less frequently than something with lesser power? So you certainly can exploit it as long as you’re comfortable registering some big numbers and can wait for the opportunities.
2) something grunty but will less outright power can be exploited more often and in some / many situations will be as quick as anything else (so many other factors limit speed on the road).
Edited by blade7 on Thursday 29th August 13:28
Jazoli said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Why can't we all get along.
There's a lot of bad blood building here which is a shame.
There is, but go to a pub and tell me you like everyone in there, there's always going to be a few dThere's a lot of bad blood building here which is a shame.
heads.
do I have to post another pic to prove they aren't/he's not lying like in the other thread Grindle said:
yonex said:
Lindun said:
Wow are you that interested? Pick a track.
Nope. But if you're calling someone out....Pick your last three races. Unless you're a test rider, then just add a few tenths so that the other factory teams don't get wind of all this.
Me done on this one, hope you're having fun Yonex btw.
As this appears to have deteriorated into an argument about speed and ability, and the only real measure of that is lap times, I feel it's now only fair that you post yours too, surely ?
As a casual observer, and having read through this thread, I can see how two fairly innocent posts by you both have turned into a slanging match, as the problem with written words in a forum is that they lose context or expression, and I can see how Grindle's words could be seen as bragging, just saying
graeme4130 said:
I can see how two fairly innocent posts by you both have turned into a slanging match, as the problem with written words in a forum is that they lose context or expression...
I'm not being funny, but it's always fking "Lindun" though isn't it? 
I've no axe to grind, but it's fairly clear to me that if there's a fuse uncovered he's the
that will light it. Back to the pub analogy, he's the internet forum equivalent of that angry short mate we all have, who causes a nightmare in the pub after a few pints.
Like f
king Scrappy Doo.Prof Prolapse said:
I'm not being funny, but it's always fking "Lindun" though isn't it?
I've no axe to grind, but it's fairly clear to me that if there's a fuse uncovered he's the that will light it.
Back to the pub analogy, he's the internet forum equivalent of that angry short mate we all have, who causes a nightmare in the pub after a few pints.
Like fking Scrappy Doo.
I bet if he was in a room on his own he'd still manage to get a black eye and a fat lip king "Lindun" though isn't it? I've no axe to grind, but it's fairly clear to me that if there's a fuse uncovered he's the
that will light it. Back to the pub analogy, he's the internet forum equivalent of that angry short mate we all have, who causes a nightmare in the pub after a few pints.
Like f
king Scrappy Doo.
Prof Prolapse said:
I'm not being funny, but it's always fking "Lindun" though isn't it?
I've no axe to grind, but it's fairly clear to me that if there's a fuse uncovered he's the that will light it.
Back to the pub analogy, he's the internet forum equivalent of that angry short mate we all have, who causes a nightmare in the pub after a few pints.
Like fking Scrappy Doo.
It’s not though is it. Plenty of arguments raging and I’m not the only one involved (I’m not involved in many at all) but it’s important to apply that confirmation bias. king "Lindun" though isn't it? I've no axe to grind, but it's fairly clear to me that if there's a fuse uncovered he's the
that will light it. Back to the pub analogy, he's the internet forum equivalent of that angry short mate we all have, who causes a nightmare in the pub after a few pints.
Like f
king Scrappy Doo.All I’ve done on here is call out something that I see as BS and the other one has gone nuclear in his replies.
Lindun said:
It’s not though is it. Plenty of arguments raging and I’m not the only one involved (I’m not involved in many at all) but it’s important to apply that confirmation bias.
All I’ve done on here is call out something that I see as BS and the other one has gone nuclear in his replies.
I'm not saying it's not his fault. I'm just saying when you, "call out something.. as BS", that's you lighting the touch paper.All I’ve done on here is call out something that I see as BS and the other one has gone nuclear in his replies.
I mean do you think he'll suddenly turn around and go, "you know what you're right Lindun, I was exaggerating to compensate for for my sense of smallness, and I lacked the awareness to realise that people are well informed enough to see I'm talking s
t on this forum, thank you very much for pointing it out to me in a public setting, and making me appear small and naive. You've helped me grow as a person and I am grateful for your insight"? Whatever anyway, you're a grown man, unless I'm mistaken I believe we've met and you're a decent enough bloke, but, and I mean this in as a respectful manner as possible, you are the f
king Scrappy doo of the internet. Anyway back at the original thread...... I am part of a group of 5/6 riders who at one point all had litre sports bikes whilst I had a 650 Daytona. We are average ability riders who like to go fast at every available opportunity. Whilst true to the original theme of this discussion we always ended up at our destination at roughly the same time and together, it was sometimes a little stressful keeping up with them and the bike and myself occasionally overstretched ourselves. I now too have a litre bike, I am the same rider and now keep up with the group with ease. The moral of the story is..... no idea, other than an anecdotal comparison between a 600 sports bike and a litre one.
Triaguar said:
Anyway back at the original thread...... I am part of a group of 5/6 riders who at one point all had litre sports bikes whilst I had a 650 Daytona. We are average ability riders who like to go fast at every available opportunity. Whilst true to the original theme of this discussion we always ended up at our destination at roughly the same time and together, it was sometimes a little stressful keeping up with them and the bike and myself occasionally overstretched ourselves. I now too have a litre bike, I am the same rider and now keep up with the group with ease. The moral of the story is..... no idea, other than an anecdotal comparison between a 600 sports bike and a litre one.
Actually, what you wrote misses the original thread.Noone doubts or questions that in a straight line, especially from lower rpms, the liter bike will accelerate way faster than a 600.
In fact,
what you write actually means that you can maybe use the performance of 600cc bike on the street, even that barely,
because, as you write, you overstretched yourself,
because in your attempt to keep up with liter bikes you probably went into the top of the rev range of your 600 bike,
where these bikes go ballistic, scream their nuts off and scare you s
tless,to the point you cannot concentrate on riding per se.
At the same time the 1000cc-riders are in rpm midrange (at best) and comfortably roll from corner to corner.
SO, you basically say one cannot use the full performance of 1000cc sportsbike on the street.
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