What a b*stard shame...
Discussion
Dog Star said:
If I could get hold of who did this to me and get away with it I'd kick them in the head repeatedly til it was a bloody pulp, then I'd smash their hands flat with a rock for what they did to me. Then I'd piss on them.
So no. It's not "just stuff".
May I suggest piss first, then hands...etcSo no. It's not "just stuff".
moanthebairns said:
TBH, I think even Father Brian D'Arcy whom I listened to the other day on Radio 2's Pause for Thoughts would struggle to convince me that a tear should be shed for this lad.
I think Klootzak is just implying it's a very sorry state of affairs to wish death on another human being for what is not even (relatively speaking) a particularly serious crime. It's a fair point.Personally though, same as you MTB, I know people like this thief too, and understand that for as long as they draw breath they're a burden on themselves and everyone around them. Once you separate empathy from the argument, having them gone as a threat objectively benefits wider society.
For that reason I'm open to both contrasting viewpoints, but I also respect the fact the rule of law is arbiter over who is right, rather than me.
I'd not really have much of an issue lowering them feet first into a macerator either, which is precisely why a career in the judicial system is probably not for me.
egomeister said:
Dog Star said:
(my insurers declined to pay out more than 2k as my garage is detached. That was about 20k lost)
Off topic, but can you expand on this a bit more? Was the garage the typical detached/accessed via shared parking arrangement found in newer estates, and was the 2k limitation a quirk of your particular policy or typical of most? I'm looking to move to a place with a garage, so this kind of info is useful to consider! It's my fault for not looking at the small print - I didn't know that the "no limit" on household contents did not apply to detached garages; if the garage was one of these integral things you get on a modern house then cover would have been total. My house is a Victorian thing and the garage is a separate (brick) building about 50 metres from the main dwelling.
Even the chap dealing with my claim only spotted it at the very last minute - I thought I was covered and then as he was going through the huge list of stolen items that they were replacing directly and having delivered he remarked how it was a detached garage and he needed to check something. Blammo! That was that. LV= insurance in that case.
This seems to be a pretty normal amount for a detached garage. Currently with Aviva and it's up to £2500. I try to mitigate this by keeping all my power tools and socket sets in big cases I can lug up and down to the house and keeping them there. The irony is that there's no cover limit on the house but it's actually an awful lot less secure than the garage, which is like a fortress.
If anyone knows an insurer that does cover garages for a reasonable sum I'd be interested.
klootzak said:
True enough. But there’s a world of difference between accepting the s
t they bring upon themselves and wishing harm upon them.
K
No one is wishing it upon him.t they bring upon themselves and wishing harm upon them.K
They’re simply not too concerned that it’s happened and that he’s in pain.
And regards physical stimuli, it isn’t Neanderthal, it tests for a recognised level of response.
I use it all the time and haven’t lost my job yet.
Prof Prolapse said:
moanthebairns said:
TBH, I think even Father Brian D'Arcy whom I listened to the other day on Radio 2's Pause for Thoughts would struggle to convince me that a tear should be shed for this lad.
I think Klootzak is just implying it's a very sorry state of affairs to wish death on another human being for what is not even (relatively speaking) a particularly serious crime. It's a fair point.Personally though, same as you MTB, I know people like this thief too, and understand that for as long as they draw breath they're a burden on themselves and everyone around them. Once you separate empathy from the argument, having them gone as a threat objectively benefits wider society.
For that reason I'm open to both contrasting viewpoints, but I also respect the fact the rule of law is arbiter over who is right, rather than me.
I'd not really have much of an issue lowering them feet first into a macerator either, which is precisely why a career in the judicial system is probably not for me.
king Leslie up again for feeling some birds arse in a night club 20 years ago. I'd be happier if the thief was dead to be honest.
I lost 2 bikes a couple of months ago, Insurance on my remaining bikes/new bikes has risen by over £1000, my car insurance has gone from £240 to over £500 (renewal this morning)
I've been away for 4 days, all of those days i thought about my property and was hoping it was all safe.
I've got so much security on my bikes/garage now that it takes a while to get them out so I don't ride as much anymore.
It's not "just stuff" these people are taking, it has a much bigger affect on their victims than just having to replace some stuff.
Do i think thieves should serve the death penalty? Probably not, but do I have any sympathy if they hurt themselves or die as a result of their behaviour? Most certainly not.
I lost 2 bikes a couple of months ago, Insurance on my remaining bikes/new bikes has risen by over £1000, my car insurance has gone from £240 to over £500 (renewal this morning)
I've been away for 4 days, all of those days i thought about my property and was hoping it was all safe.
I've got so much security on my bikes/garage now that it takes a while to get them out so I don't ride as much anymore.
It's not "just stuff" these people are taking, it has a much bigger affect on their victims than just having to replace some stuff.
Do i think thieves should serve the death penalty? Probably not, but do I have any sympathy if they hurt themselves or die as a result of their behaviour? Most certainly not.
Dog Star said:
If anyone knows an insurer that does cover garages for a reasonable sum I'd be interested.
Try these on either 01743 296666 or 01743 290375I use them to cover anything in my garage upto 20k. They have a 15k cover too. I used it for my mx bikes and track bike
Cost me about £200 a year
klootzak said:
Nice.
You get screwed over by an insurance company so you wish violence on someone else (instead of them).
No wonder the world is fked.
k
You're blaming the insurance company for the theft and all the stress and torment that goes with it? Yes mate, back in the real world....You get screwed over by an insurance company so you wish violence on someone else (instead of them).
No wonder the world is f
ked.k
How many examples do you need to show the value these scrotes put on other peoples lives (we know they have zero respect for your "stuff" or indeed the ability for your kids to sleep at night having been broken into). We've had a recent killing of a police officer in Berkshire. Another ran over in Birmingham (ran over as in under the wheels) by the bloke he was trying to arrest in a stolen range rover.... Its increasingly common that they would kill or cripple you soon as look at you, the more of them that incapacitate themselves the better.
Jasey_ said:
Birky_41 said:
Dog Star said:
I with the OP - hope the thieving scrote is in a LOT of pain. fking turd - he's nearly wiped out an entire family there - and I'll bet you that if he'd been capable of doing a runner and leaving them there he would have done.
100%king turd - he's nearly wiped out an entire family there - and I'll bet you that if he'd been capable of doing a runner and leaving them there he would have done. Unfortunately there is no longer any justice. Had this individual been caught and it even made it to court , what would he have been given ? Not much I can guarantee it.
So it is poetic justice , in knowing that a repeat offender ( more than likely ) will no longer be able to repeat causing emotional misery, and financial pain to those of us who choose to contribute to society in a positive way .
So it is poetic justice , in knowing that a repeat offender ( more than likely ) will no longer be able to repeat causing emotional misery, and financial pain to those of us who choose to contribute to society in a positive way .
Se7enheaven said:
Unfortunately there is no longer any justice. Had this individual been caught and it even made it to court , what would he have been given ? Not much I can guarantee it.
So it is poetic justice , in knowing that a repeat offender ( more than likely ) will no longer be able to repeat causing emotional misery, and financial pain to those of us who choose to contribute to society in a positive way .
Prick will probably claim for loss of future earnings against the driver's insurance.So it is poetic justice , in knowing that a repeat offender ( more than likely ) will no longer be able to repeat causing emotional misery, and financial pain to those of us who choose to contribute to society in a positive way .
It's a pity these two upstanding citizens were fit enough to run away and harm another day.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...
I'ma big fan of the three strikes law in certain US states. I have zero tolerance for repeat @rseholes.
"One application of a three-strikes law was the Leonardo Andrade case in California in 2009. In this case, Leandro Andrade attempted to rob $153 in videotapes from two San Bernardino K-Mart stores. He was charged under California's three-strikes law because of his criminal history concerning drugs and other burglaries. Because of his past criminal records, he was sentenced to 50 years in prison with no parole after this last burglary of K-Mart. Although this sentencing was disputed by Erwin Chemerinsky, who represented Andrade, as cruel and unusual punishment under the 8th Amendment, the Supreme Court ruled in support for the life sentencing."
"One application of a three-strikes law was the Leonardo Andrade case in California in 2009. In this case, Leandro Andrade attempted to rob $153 in videotapes from two San Bernardino K-Mart stores. He was charged under California's three-strikes law because of his criminal history concerning drugs and other burglaries. Because of his past criminal records, he was sentenced to 50 years in prison with no parole after this last burglary of K-Mart. Although this sentencing was disputed by Erwin Chemerinsky, who represented Andrade, as cruel and unusual punishment under the 8th Amendment, the Supreme Court ruled in support for the life sentencing."
RemaL said:
Jasey_ said:
Birky_41 said:
Dog Star said:
I with the OP - hope the thieving scrote is in a LOT of pain. fking turd - he's nearly wiped out an entire family there - and I'll bet you that if he'd been capable of doing a runner and leaving them there he would have done.
100%king turd - he's nearly wiped out an entire family there - and I'll bet you that if he'd been capable of doing a runner and leaving them there he would have done. The current headline story about the PC killed by scumbag
s running him over last week is about 200 yards from where I work.Local (completely unsubstantiated) gossip is that said it was traffic officer responding to a stolen quad. I'm speculating whether it was the quad itself that did the hitting and dragging of the PC rather than the accompanying getaway car - news reports keep insisting it's a "vehicle" rather than a car.
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