Best Honda paint schemes?
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tdm34 said:
Say what you like, i've researched this guy and I believe him, given a couple of facts, the 1982 AMA CB900F had a measured
rear wheel power output of between 142-147bhp, this was at 1025cc and revs restricted to 10,500rpm those figures are from
a chap called Dennis Zickrick, who's he? The manager of the Works Honda AMA team that year, and he believes Brent.
Now Brents bike is 1225cc and revs to 12000rpm, his cylinder head flows over 200cfm (35% more than the works bikes)
Just because We now have roadbikes with 200+bhp that have to adhere to emissions standards, start on the button and last
50,000 miles without a rebuild, doesn't mean that basically a bike with an engine that "looks" like a 1982 CB900F motor can't get
close to the claimed figures, the guy is highly regarded on the models biggest forum, who's members would pull him to pieces
if his claims aren't accurate, the engine has every trick in the book and some more that you can't think off thrown at it and it's
right at the bleeding edge of what an aircooled engine can achieve.
Become a member of CB1100F.NET and look at Brents bike and what he's done over the years his handle is Captain.
Just because one "Engineer type" can't get his head round it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Just have a look for yourself.
I'm sure you can understand my skepticism, it's a pretty exceptional claim based on the picture alone, and most similar claims turn out to be utter brear wheel power output of between 142-147bhp, this was at 1025cc and revs restricted to 10,500rpm those figures are from
a chap called Dennis Zickrick, who's he? The manager of the Works Honda AMA team that year, and he believes Brent.
Now Brents bike is 1225cc and revs to 12000rpm, his cylinder head flows over 200cfm (35% more than the works bikes)
Just because We now have roadbikes with 200+bhp that have to adhere to emissions standards, start on the button and last
50,000 miles without a rebuild, doesn't mean that basically a bike with an engine that "looks" like a 1982 CB900F motor can't get
close to the claimed figures, the guy is highly regarded on the models biggest forum, who's members would pull him to pieces
if his claims aren't accurate, the engine has every trick in the book and some more that you can't think off thrown at it and it's
right at the bleeding edge of what an aircooled engine can achieve.
Become a member of CB1100F.NET and look at Brents bike and what he's done over the years his handle is Captain.
Just because one "Engineer type" can't get his head round it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Just have a look for yourself.
ks. An air-cooled, naturally aspirated engine, running at nearly 200bhp, with some ancient components. If he can do what you're claiming, fair enough, that's a very special bike.
Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 20th May 09:30
Prof Prolapse said:
tdm34 said:
Say what you like, i've researched this guy and I believe him, given a couple of facts, the 1982 AMA CB900F had a measured
rear wheel power output of between 142-147bhp, this was at 1025cc and revs restricted to 10,500rpm those figures are from
a chap called Dennis Zickrick, who's he? The manager of the Works Honda AMA team that year, and he believes Brent.
Now Brents bike is 1225cc and revs to 12000rpm, his cylinder head flows over 200cfm (35% more than the works bikes)
Just because We now have roadbikes with 200+bhp that have to adhere to emissions standards, start on the button and last
50,000 miles without a rebuild, doesn't mean that basically a bike with an engine that "looks" like a 1982 CB900F motor can't get
close to the claimed figures, the guy is highly regarded on the models biggest forum, who's members would pull him to pieces
if his claims aren't accurate, the engine has every trick in the book and some more that you can't think off thrown at it and it's
right at the bleeding edge of what an aircooled engine can achieve.
Become a member of CB1100F.NET and look at Brents bike and what he's done over the years his handle is Captain.
Just because one "Engineer type" can't get his head round it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Just have a look for yourself.
I'm sure you can understand my skepticism, it's a pretty exceptional claim based on the picture alone, and most similar claims turn out to be utter brear wheel power output of between 142-147bhp, this was at 1025cc and revs restricted to 10,500rpm those figures are from
a chap called Dennis Zickrick, who's he? The manager of the Works Honda AMA team that year, and he believes Brent.
Now Brents bike is 1225cc and revs to 12000rpm, his cylinder head flows over 200cfm (35% more than the works bikes)
Just because We now have roadbikes with 200+bhp that have to adhere to emissions standards, start on the button and last
50,000 miles without a rebuild, doesn't mean that basically a bike with an engine that "looks" like a 1982 CB900F motor can't get
close to the claimed figures, the guy is highly regarded on the models biggest forum, who's members would pull him to pieces
if his claims aren't accurate, the engine has every trick in the book and some more that you can't think off thrown at it and it's
right at the bleeding edge of what an aircooled engine can achieve.
Become a member of CB1100F.NET and look at Brents bike and what he's done over the years his handle is Captain.
Just because one "Engineer type" can't get his head round it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Just have a look for yourself.
ks. An air-cooled, naturally aspirated engine, running at nearly 200bhp, with some ancient components. If he can do what you're claiming, fair enough, that's a very special bike.
Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 20th May 09:30
in race trim it's under 180kgs, when he hones the bores it's done in an oil bath at high temp it's also in a clamping plate
so the bores are as close to a perfect cylinder as you get. he's converted the HiVo chain primary drive to gear drive, it looks like
it was meant, the original cylinder heads inlet tracts are carved off and new completely straight inlets replace them something even Honda didn't do back in the day, but the biggest thing Brent addressed was Honda's inability to design a decent Cam Chain Tensioning system
because of a design flaw between 10250-10500 rpm the standard tensioners caused a harmonic ripple in the camchain, then it would snap!
Brent figured out that if you extend the front tensioner by about 1cm it basically solved that issue, he designed a set of tensioners and guides that completely solve the CB900F's reputation for fragility, he's sold over 650 sets worldwide without a single failure.
the entire valvetrain is titanium and his 1220cc bike is safe to over 12,000rpm! he's had problems with RSC clutch baskets failing
they where OK for the AMA works bikes back in the day but with the extra power they where letting go, so he designed a new banded basket, He altered all the oiling systems so the underside of the pistons have oils jets to cool them, The engine internals are vastly more up to date than the casings. The Carbs are vastly more advanced than the Lectron or Blue Magnum units from back in the AMA days, He uses a fully mapped ignition system, with 35mm Mikuni CR's with a TPS, virtually every bolt, axle and fastener is Titanium, it really is worth becoming a member of cb1100f.net to see what he and some others are doing with these bikes....
Edited by tdm34 on Wednesday 20th May 16:46
V1nce Fox said:
loved the 954 blade in the non-uk dark bronze/black combo.
AGREED! Edited by V1nce Fox on Thursday 31st October 12:47
Clearly I am biased, but this is my favourite colour combination (albeit on a baby 400 with the colour-matched leathers):
Also have a soft spot for the Benneton colours, it screams early '90s and will always remind me of my first bike. I adored that NSR even if the white wheels were impossible to keep clean.
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