Nortons current state
Discussion
ceesvdelst said:
My issue with the whole, story is that his brother is sitting there, and yet allows his other brother to take the 90 grand payout, when it was supposed to be 360! If that was your brother what would you do? Maybe they didn't get on. Did Garner know he was a pisshead and would likely take the money?
This man knew the family, knew his father!
Something about it is not right, having dealt with one or two of these small engineering firms, some of them are run fairly weirdly is all I can say.
I am not saying Spondon are doing anything wrong here, but there is an agenda, the writer clearly had a thing about Norton and Garner (rightly so maybe) and that was how the article was written, very slanted, Garner is not present to put forward his view, nor is anyone representing Norton. And although he is clearly a crook of the highest order, totally biased articles are never a good thing and actually very bad journalism
The writer clearly had a thing about Norton? Erm, yes. I could bang a road test out on the V4 and say everything is fine if you like? Look where that’s got us.This man knew the family, knew his father!
Something about it is not right, having dealt with one or two of these small engineering firms, some of them are run fairly weirdly is all I can say.
I am not saying Spondon are doing anything wrong here, but there is an agenda, the writer clearly had a thing about Norton and Garner (rightly so maybe) and that was how the article was written, very slanted, Garner is not present to put forward his view, nor is anyone representing Norton. And although he is clearly a crook of the highest order, totally biased articles are never a good thing and actually very bad journalism
Harvey mush man said:
ceesvdelst said:
My issue with the whole, story is that his brother is sitting there, and yet allows his other brother to take the 90 grand payout, when it was supposed to be 360! If that was your brother what would you do? Maybe they didn't get on. Did Garner know he was a pisshead and would likely take the money?
This man knew the family, knew his father!
Something about it is not right, having dealt with one or two of these small engineering firms, some of them are run fairly weirdly is all I can say.
I am not saying Spondon are doing anything wrong here, but there is an agenda, the writer clearly had a thing about Norton and Garner (rightly so maybe) and that was how the article was written, very slanted, Garner is not present to put forward his view, nor is anyone representing Norton. And although he is clearly a crook of the highest order, totally biased articles are never a good thing and actually very bad journalism
The writer clearly had a thing about Norton? Erm, yes. I could bang a road test out on the V4 and say everything is fine if you like? Look where that’s got us.This man knew the family, knew his father!
Something about it is not right, having dealt with one or two of these small engineering firms, some of them are run fairly weirdly is all I can say.
I am not saying Spondon are doing anything wrong here, but there is an agenda, the writer clearly had a thing about Norton and Garner (rightly so maybe) and that was how the article was written, very slanted, Garner is not present to put forward his view, nor is anyone representing Norton. And although he is clearly a crook of the highest order, totally biased articles are never a good thing and actually very bad journalism
boyse7en said:
The (few) dealers that Norton had are being shafted. They took deposits and passed them onto Norton, so customers are demanding the money back off of them (which is fair enough). One dealer is down nearly £100,000 (two V4 paid in full and a heap of deposits on the never-launched Atlas).
The deposits on the V4s were paid ages ago. Then around christmas time dealer had a notification from Norton that the bikes were ready, so customers paid up and money sent to Norton. He was then told by someone else at the factory not to bother going to collect them as they were gone... they had been sold to a french customer. He's got documentation with chassis numbers and all the forms for getting the bikes registered, and so has the French guy. They just duplicated all the paperwork to sell the same bikes twice.
Jesus wept. Someone is going to prison then.. that's pretty clear cut. The deposits on the V4s were paid ages ago. Then around christmas time dealer had a notification from Norton that the bikes were ready, so customers paid up and money sent to Norton. He was then told by someone else at the factory not to bother going to collect them as they were gone... they had been sold to a french customer. He's got documentation with chassis numbers and all the forms for getting the bikes registered, and so has the French guy. They just duplicated all the paperwork to sell the same bikes twice.
CRA1G said:
A honest question for PH regulators... what the difference between the naming of Specialist cars of Malton which has been removed and Norton which hasn't..?
The name and shame rules generally cover a single person's grudge against a company - it's not substantiated.Once it makes the general news it's fair game as the assumption is that someone has seen some evidence of wrongdoing.
Krikkit said:
The name and shame rules generally cover a single person's grudge against a company - it's not substantiated.
Once it makes the general news it's fair game as the assumption is that someone has seen some evidence of wrongdoing.
Yes that's my point,SCOM is in the public domain for all to see a administrator has been appointed,so not a singular opinion or grudge the evidence is substantiated yet the posts have been removed...?Once it makes the general news it's fair game as the assumption is that someone has seen some evidence of wrongdoing.
CRA1G said:
Yes that's my point,SCOM is in the public domain for all to see a administrator has been appointed,so not a singular opinion or grudge the evidence is substantiated yet the posts have been removed...?
Fair point, I hadn't read the latest bits about SCoM and going into administrationInstallment number 2. And another director negligent in the conduct of his office. More forged signatures and nothing done despite admitting talking with Tiller 
It is becoming ever more evident that it wasn't just Garner....
https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/norton-was-it-...
It is becoming ever more evident that it wasn't just Garner.... https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/norton-was-it-...
Interesting to read about why he didn't chase the forged signature.
Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
snagzie said:
Interesting to read about why he didn't chase the forged signature.
Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
Another weirdo. Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
He put in what seems to be a very large proportion of his net worth into someone who seems to have been a knob from minute one and he was happy enough with a quarterly update that told him nothing? I'd be all over him every minute of the day.
Saw some video on youtube today. The fellow makes some points but the whole thing gives rise to some thoughts.
Like one of those pyramid schemes ,once people buy in they then encourage others to do so to keep the whole thing going.
Everytime there is a dissenting voice someone else pipes up or shows a pic of the bike they picked up last thursday etc.
A lot of people who paid full cost upfront probably have plenty of cash to spare and may be embarrased by the whole thing.
Otherwise I would think they would be contacting the police to make a complaint and probably not feeling the need to tell everyone about it.
The pension scheme plundering is the worrying bit for me and the government handouts.
Trouble is its the same government so they wont throw themselves under a bus.
Like one of those pyramid schemes ,once people buy in they then encourage others to do so to keep the whole thing going.
Everytime there is a dissenting voice someone else pipes up or shows a pic of the bike they picked up last thursday etc.
A lot of people who paid full cost upfront probably have plenty of cash to spare and may be embarrased by the whole thing.
Otherwise I would think they would be contacting the police to make a complaint and probably not feeling the need to tell everyone about it.
The pension scheme plundering is the worrying bit for me and the government handouts.
Trouble is its the same government so they wont throw themselves under a bus.
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