Nortons current state
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Superbike: Norton – Was it a fraud from the start? Part Two >>>> https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/norton-was-it-...
EDIT: Somehow, I missed NS400R's post above.
EDIT: Somehow, I missed NS400R's post above.
Edited by gareth_r on Wednesday 4th March 18:45
NS400R said:
Installment number 2. And another director negligent in the conduct of his office. More forged signatures and nothing done despite admitting talking with Tiller 
It is becoming ever more evident that it wasn't just Garner....
https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/norton-was-it-...
Will read it now, do we know the time line for releasing these? Every couple of weeks or? It is becoming ever more evident that it wasn't just Garner.... https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/norton-was-it-...
gregs656 said:
Will read it now, do we know the time line for releasing these? Every couple of weeks or?
No idea. Whilst they're interestng articles, I do wish John Hogan would be a little more robust. Both of the people he has released interviews on thus far are clearly complicit, yet play the victim card and he let's them get away with it. Hopefully if Garner gets his day in court, they're dragged through too. By having failed to act they may well find themselves liable as they have clearly failed to act appropriately as directors. We can but hope. I'm confused.
Two people have now claimed that their signatures were forged, but neither of them reported this to the police.
Why on earth not?
https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-...
Two people have now claimed that their signatures were forged, but neither of them reported this to the police.
Why on earth not?
https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-...
NS400R said:
No idea. Whilst they're interestng articles, I do wish John Hogan would be a little more robust. Both of the people he has released interviews on thus far are clearly complicit, yet play the victim card and he let's them get away with it. Hopefully if Garner gets his day in court, they're dragged through too. By having failed to act they may well find themselves liable as they have clearly failed to act appropriately as directors. We can but hope.
Yeah. It's the same with the BikerGlory articles from way back, the original article is pretty cutting but the follow up interview with SG is proper soft touch.
The interviews are interesting but usually this kind of investigative journalism ties things together and does more of a deep dive. The forged signatures for example, that is an element that has come up twice in two interviews and you would think if this story was a bit more polished we would have something more substantive.
I think the trouble you're going to find now is that there will be a percentage of truth reported but also a whole bucket of "he said, she said" side info too, generating all kinds of theories.. In this day and age, it's very hard to find the complete truth within the barrage of social media so-called 'expert' reports.
bloomen said:
snagzie said:
Interesting to read about why he didn't chase the forged signature.
Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
Another weirdo. Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
He put in what seems to be a very large proportion of his net worth into someone who seems to have been a knob from minute one and he was happy enough with a quarterly update that told him nothing? I'd be all over him every minute of the day.
If, since the admin, he hasn't pursued the forged signature, then you can only assume he was complicit with the scandal
graeme4130 said:
bloomen said:
snagzie said:
Interesting to read about why he didn't chase the forged signature.
Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
Another weirdo. Surely it would be apt to raise this via his solicitor to contact the bank? I'm not really buying the fact it might cause conflict with SG and the fact it would harm Norton by chasing that forged signature dropping the charge......
He put in what seems to be a very large proportion of his net worth into someone who seems to have been a knob from minute one and he was happy enough with a quarterly update that told him nothing? I'd be all over him every minute of the day.
If, since the admin, he hasn't pursued the forged signature, then you can only assume he was complicit with the scandal
gareth_r said:
Two people have now claimed that their signatures were forged, but neither of them reported this to the police. Why on earth not?
https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-...
ActionFraud is itself a fraudulent (and action-less) enterprise. Pretends to be law enforcement, but is in reality a call centre operated by a US contractor. It exists to prevent victims from making a real crime report to Police, with the expectation of some kind of investigation or justice resulting. The great majority of reports taken by ActionFraud are just filed for statistics, because neither the Police or finance industry want to prioritise this. https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-...
https://www.policeprofessional.com/news/review-of-...
Tardigrade said:
ActionFraud is itself a fraudulent (and action-less) enterprise. Pretends to be law enforcement, but is in reality a call centre operated by a US contractor. It exists to prevent victims from making a real crime report to Police, with the expectation of some kind of investigation or justice resulting. The great majority of reports taken by ActionFraud are just filed for statistics, because neither the Police or finance industry want to prioritise this.
https://www.policeprofessional.com/news/review-of-...
Interesting take. What's your agenda?https://www.policeprofessional.com/news/review-of-...
gareth_r said:
I'm confused.
Two people have now claimed that their signatures were forged, but neither of them reported this to the police.
Why on earth not?
https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-...
I guessing that had they reported it, and it turned out to be true it would have meant the end of Norton and they would have lost all their money.Two people have now claimed that their signatures were forged, but neither of them reported this to the police.
Why on earth not?
https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-...
Pretending/ hoping that it wasn't true and praying that everything would work out for the best , would give them a false hope of seeing their money again.
It's a difficult situation which is easy to judge with the benefit of hindsight.
Fundoreen said:
More to garner than meets they eye. Seems very clever at spotting people he can dominate and exploite.
Must be a lot of people in the background advising him as his education and previous employment dont reflect the twisted financial dealings he has managed to set up.
Just devious!Must be a lot of people in the background advising him as his education and previous employment dont reflect the twisted financial dealings he has managed to set up.
I thought that may be of interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GWytd1Qr0
I've not been following this debacle, it reminds me of those chaps who bought Rover from BMW and seemed to think spending lots of money going to Le Mans was good for the brand and survival of the company.
It seems Garner likes a nice motor or two.
I'm more interested if Theresa May MP, former Prime Minister and Home Secretary, went to China with Garner helping peddle his Norton scam abroad.
It wouldn't be good for her, ahem reputation, if Leicestershire police started investigating what's happened with Garner and this Norton scam? That would not be good be like Cambridgeshire police investigating someone being abducted taken by helicopter to France and then flown to the Middle East would not have been good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GWytd1Qr0
I've not been following this debacle, it reminds me of those chaps who bought Rover from BMW and seemed to think spending lots of money going to Le Mans was good for the brand and survival of the company.
It seems Garner likes a nice motor or two.
I'm more interested if Theresa May MP, former Prime Minister and Home Secretary, went to China with Garner helping peddle his Norton scam abroad.
It wouldn't be good for her, ahem reputation, if Leicestershire police started investigating what's happened with Garner and this Norton scam? That would not be good be like Cambridgeshire police investigating someone being abducted taken by helicopter to France and then flown to the Middle East would not have been good?
Edited by carinaman on Friday 6th March 15:35
MPs are putting the Pension Regulator under pressure over the Norton debacle.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...
NS400R said:
Seen this earlier, that crook is obviously upto no good - you watch, he will attempt to buy the norton brand off the sinking ship and carry on like nothing happened. I wouldnt be surprised if the R&D wasnt owned by the sinking Norton but by Garner himself! carinaman said:
What a load of s
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