Nortons current state

Nortons current state

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Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Pothole said:
What's the betting this won't be mentioned in MCN at all..?
Amazingly it is on MCN’s website front page! I have feeling this is going to turn very messy before it grinds to an inevitable end!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Mr Dendrite said:
Pothole said:
What's the betting this won't be mentioned in MCN at all..?
Amazingly it is on MCN’s website front page! I have feeling this is going to turn very messy before it grinds to an inevitable end!
I'm genuinely shocked. Their recent copy appears to have been mostly written from a kneeling position in Garner's office...


ETA: in general it doesn't seem to be a sustainable business model unless the Atlas models show significant ROI over the next year or so, does it?

Edited by Pothole on Friday 10th January 19:13

Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Pothole said:
Mr Dendrite said:
Pothole said:
What's the betting this won't be mentioned in MCN at all..?
Amazingly it is on MCN’s website front page! I have feeling this is going to turn very messy before it grinds to an inevitable end!
I'm genuinely shocked. Their recent copy appears to have been mostly written from a kneeling position in Garner's office...
Try Bike’s six page free advert feature(suck up fest) for Superbike factory. You get the impression Bauer media are desperate not to upset anyone who might spend money on advertising!
Norton’s money supply seems to going in ever decreasing circles as they try to keep up the image they are a major player. I hope I’m wrong but when the musical chairs stop someone is going end up very out of pocket.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Mr Dendrite said:
Try Bike’s six page free advert feature(suck up fest) for Superbike factory. You get the impression Bauer media are desperate not to upset anyone who might spend money on advertising!
Norton’s money supply seems to going in ever decreasing circles as they try to keep up the image they are a major player. I hope I’m wrong but when the musical chairs stop someone is going end up very out of pocket.
Do we think the purported single million pound investor knew that they needed tax break money to pay taxes (effectively, or similar)?

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

125 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Fundoreen said:
A chinese deal I like. Like the saudis they should spend big to try and whitewash their horrible inhuman behaviour. and they get zero in the way of technology or secrets as its just a nostalgia operation.
Like westerners are any better!

Boeing "built" a brick for plane, hired 5-dollar "engineers" somewhere in Pakistani bush to write the code that literally kept that brick in the air, hid all the problems from the customers (except for internal emails where people with guilty conscience and still some integrity left tried unsuccessfully to bring the problems up to management/board)
Then released the plane with the blessing of a captured "regulator" FAA....

300 people dead, the ones with guilty conscience will be fired (to teach the rest to keep their mouths shut when management/board rakes in millions through share buybacks while cutting "costs" in the engine room)...

And the CEO gets to leave with USD 62 million get-out-of-jail-golden-parachute.
Yeah, whitewash....

denis362832

22 posts

51 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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This is not a surprise.

NS400R

463 posts

159 months

Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Interesting that McPint is going public like that...
They’ve wheeled out the Nomad demonstrator for a day at Krazyhorse on social media. It must well over a year since they announced those models. A step forward or a case of “look squirrel” to distract from the recent bad press?

slopes

38,818 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Mr Dendrite said:
Interesting that McPint is going public like that...
They’ve wheeled out the Nomad demonstrator for a day at Krazyhorse on social media. It must well over a year since they announced those models. A step forward or a case of “look squirrel” to distract from the recent bad press?
Oooh look, a dancing squirrel....

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Ho Lee Kau said:
Like westerners are any better!

Boeing "built" a brick for plane, hired 5-dollar "engineers" somewhere in Pakistani bush to write the code that literally kept that brick in the air, hid all the problems from the customers (except for internal emails where people with guilty conscience and still some integrity left tried unsuccessfully to bring the problems up to management/board)
Then released the plane with the blessing of a captured "regulator" FAA....

300 people dead, the ones with guilty conscience will be fired (to teach the rest to keep their mouths shut when management/board rakes in millions through share buybacks while cutting "costs" in the engine room)...

And the CEO gets to leave with USD 62 million get-out-of-jail-golden-parachute.
Yeah, whitewash....
Not saying that they don't deserve criticism, but that's not what happened at Boeing at all.

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Krikkit said:
Not saying that they don't deserve criticism, but that's not what happened at Boeing at all.
I have been reading the latest stories, also on Bloomberg there was a large piece...but ok, what in your opinion happened at Boeing?

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Feel a bit sorry for Mcguinness. He ended his long association with Honda I can only imagine because he is involved in some sort of legal action regarding his crash on their dodgy fireblade.
And he ends up drinking the norton kool aid.
That Garner must be really clever and I can still see the kawasakis painted up in norton jps livery and raced as nortons.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Ho Lee Kau said:
Krikkit said:
Not saying that they don't deserve criticism, but that's not what happened at Boeing at all.
I have been reading the latest stories, also on Bloomberg there was a large piece...but ok, what in your opinion happened at Boeing?
Please take this irrelevance somewhere else

Bengt Axel

134 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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To keep abreast of the latest fun and frolics at Norton, follow;

https://twitter.com/AboutNorton

and

https://twitter.com/Notnorton_Moto

(These twitter accounts are none of my doing, by the way...)


Edited by Bengt Axel on Sunday 26th January 12:27

NS400R

463 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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There's something distasteful about those links. Norton is clearly in trouble. Facts are fine, but poking fun at them just isn't on.

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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NS400R said:
There's something distasteful about those links. Norton is clearly in trouble. Facts are fine, but poking fun at them just isn't on.
Unless you're one of the hundreds of customers who've paid deposits for thin air? Or you're one of those silly enough to 'invest'? Or your pension fund has been spent by him?



Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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NS400R said:
There's something distasteful about those links. Norton is clearly in trouble. Facts are fine, but poking fun at them just isn't on.
yes It's always a long shot with Norton.

NS400R

463 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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jason61c said:
Unless you're one of the hundreds of customers who've paid deposits for thin air? Or you're one of those silly enough to 'invest'? Or your pension fund has been spent by him?
?

I've no problem with the facts being aired. I've posted up links myself, but the sort of distasteful "jokes" on those links aren't helping any of the people you mention. Unless you know better?

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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NS400R said:
?

I've no problem with the facts being aired. I've posted up links myself, but the sort of distasteful "jokes" on those links aren't helping any of the people you mention. Unless you know better?
It creates awareness.

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

224 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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I think what's happening to Norton is a shame and I hope the people that have left deposits get their money back.
If you're after an exotic V4 superbike there are far safer manufacturers who will sell you one, hopefully KTM will be joining that list soon too!.