Three jailed for dangerous driving
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yonex said:
Too many hypocrites on here. Mr Von being one of them.
I wouldn't ride like that ever on public roads, so no hypocrisy here. That doesn't mean I'm a saint or that i don't make mistakes, it just means I won't sink to that level. That wasn't a mistake on their part, it was too far & too long for it to be a mistake. It was a concerted effort at 
nessIf you are saying you wouldn't be critical of them because you'd do that, then more fool you.
popeyewhite said:
I was pulled for overtaking on double whites and let off with a warning. Twice. Cheshire plod, mind. I understand they could have been jailed anyway, as indeed some car drivers have been, for far less then an indicated 190.
It's not the numbers in isolation, it's when where & how.vonhosen said:
I wouldn't ride like that ever on public roads, so no hypocrisy here. That doesn't mean I'm a saint or that i don't make mistakes, it just means I won't sink to that level. That wasn't a mistake on their part, it was too far & too long for it to be a mistake. It was a concerted effort at ness
If you are saying you wouldn't be critical of them because you'd do that, then more fool you.
Your mistakes could cost someone’s life.nessIf you are saying you wouldn't be critical of them because you'd do that, then more fool you.
- snowflake
yonex said:
vonhosen said:
I wouldn't ride like that ever on public roads, so no hypocrisy here. That doesn't mean I'm a saint or that i don't make mistakes, it just means I won't sink to that level. That wasn't a mistake on their part, it was too far & too long for it to be a mistake. It was a concerted effort at ness
If you are saying you wouldn't be critical of them because you'd do that, then more fool you.
Your mistakes could cost someone’s life.nessIf you are saying you wouldn't be critical of them because you'd do that, then more fool you.
- snowflake
anonymous said:
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Like I say, it may be dangerous or it may not be. It's ultimately not the numbers in isolation, but where when & how.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...
Esceptico said:
I’m not saying there is no prejudice against bikers but clearly bks in this case. If a group of blokes in cars filmed themselves pulling that sort of st (150 mph, overtaking on white lines, doing donuts or getting that car completely sideways on roundabouts (with other traffic), they would have got similar sentences I think.
If you get caught by the cops being a knob then you can plead it was just a one-off. If you have filmed yourself many times it is clearly habitual behaviour and so warranting a much stiffer sentence.
Pretty simple really: don’t ride like a dick and don’t upload film of yourself riding like a dick.
That's an issue though - the risk posed to others by a car pulling the same sks in this case. If a group of blokes in cars filmed themselves pulling that sort of st (150 mph, overtaking on white lines, doing donuts or getting that car completely sideways on roundabouts (with other traffic), they would have got similar sentences I think. If you get caught by the cops being a knob then you can plead it was just a one-off. If you have filmed yourself many times it is clearly habitual behaviour and so warranting a much stiffer sentence.
Pretty simple really: don’t ride like a dick and don’t upload film of yourself riding like a dick.
t is generally greater than that posed by a motorbike. Consequently, the sentences should be adjusted accordingly.Equally, I think that punishments for dangerous driving in an HGV should be significantly greater than the equivalent in a car.
vonhosen said:
popeyewhite said:
I was pulled for overtaking on double whites and let off with a warning. Twice. Cheshire plod, mind. I understand they could have been jailed anyway, as indeed some car drivers have been, for far less then an indicated 190.
It's not the numbers in isolation, it's when where & how.vonhosen said:
Like I say, it may be dangerous or it may not be. It's ultimately not the numbers in isolation, but where when & how.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...
No, Not with that article that is middle class Porsch driver v yob bikers syndomehttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...
One and a half ton car 7 ft wide doing 150 mph v 400Lb 3ft wide motorcylce. Not dangerous!
What the hell are these judges taking!
RemyMartin81D said:
Funny old world. Go to Isle of Man which is part of the UK bar it's self determination and it's all good.
Do it in England and it's send them to jail and kill them a 100 times.
Agreed hypocrisy on here by some is lolworthy.
Isle of Man are OK with dangerous driving?Do it in England and it's send them to jail and kill them a 100 times.
Agreed hypocrisy on here by some is lolworthy.
I doubt it.
Edit - I was right.
http://www.legislation.gov.im/cms/images/LEGISLATI...
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 2nd December 12:04
kestral said:
vonhosen said:
Like I say, it may be dangerous or it may not be. It's ultimately not the numbers in isolation, but where when & how.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...
No, Not with that article that is middle class Porsch driver v yob bikers syndomehttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...
One and a half ton car 7 ft wide doing 150 mph v 400Lb 3ft wide motorcylce. Not dangerous!
What the hell are these judges taking!
Speed alone is not the sole criteria, but where that speed is used, when it's used & the circumstances surrounding it's use.
vonhosen said:
What they are doing is applying when, where & how.
Speed alone is not the sole criteria, but where that speed is used, when it's used & the circumstances surrounding it's use.
And the fact that the Police, seemingly incapable of controlling actual crime can have a few headlines in the press Speed alone is not the sole criteria, but where that speed is used, when it's used & the circumstances surrounding it's use.
The more you try and justify the sentences, the more ridiculous it sounds to be honest.
yonex said:
vonhosen said:
What they are doing is applying when, where & how.
Speed alone is not the sole criteria, but where that speed is used, when it's used & the circumstances surrounding it's use.
And the fact that the Police, seemingly incapable of controlling actual crime can have a few headlines in the press Speed alone is not the sole criteria, but where that speed is used, when it's used & the circumstances surrounding it's use.
The more you try and justify the sentences, the more ridiculous it sounds to be honest.
The post you are referring to is not about what you're saying, but then accuracy has never been a strong point for you.
yonex said:
vonhosen said:
Blah blah blah.
The post you are referring to is not about what you're saying, but then accuracy has never been a strong point for you.
I wonder if you once actually had an opinion, and were capable of self thought. before it was beaten out of you? The post you are referring to is not about what you're saying, but then accuracy has never been a strong point for you.
Likely not.
RemyMartin81D said:
Funny old world. Go to Isle of Man which is part of the UK bar it's self determination and it's all good.
Do it in England and it's send them to jail and kill them a 100 times.
Agreed hypocrisy on here by some is lolworthy.
That's a fair point and having done IOM and the mountain section at a fair rate of speed and passing police I see your point thereDo it in England and it's send them to jail and kill them a 100 times.
Agreed hypocrisy on here by some is lolworthy.
popeyewhite said:
I was pulled for overtaking on double whites and let off with a warning. Twice. Cheshire plod, mind.
A few years ago they reduced all the NSL near me to 50In the last few weeks they have been repainting the white lines - lots have changed to double whites.
Frankly I'm surprised any bikers have readable plates
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