Failed MOD 1

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Krikkit

26,538 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Congrats, as above that's the hard part over with!

I know the Mod1 gets a lot of stick, but it's actually quite a useful grounding, it's surprising how many bikers you see who obviously passed before Mod1 stuff that can't U-turn or do slow turns etc.

Fast_Eddie85

27 posts

98 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Congrats. The mod 2 is easy, its like just going for a ride. I was lucky, the examiner was in a car and I got away with a couple of minors whistle

Yazza54

18,540 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Failed mod 1 you fking dipst only complete spazmoids do that.















Is what I thought when I failed it the first time around.

MrGTI6

3,161 posts

131 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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ghibbett said:
Hello all.


Firstly thank you to everyone who has replied and all the positive encouragement. I've read and re-read it all multiple times.

So today was my third attempt and....I passed!! Thank fk for that!

Nailed the U-turn this time - quite right too, I've probably done around 60-70 in practice, which is likely more than many people do in their biking lives!

Did pick up a minor for the emergency stop. It was raining and the back wheel slightly skidded. A clean sweep would have been nice, but I'm happy to have achieved a pass.

Onto Mod 2 next :-)
Congrats! MOD 1 took me 3 attempts as well. It was such a sense of relief when I was told I'd finally passed!

As others have said, MOD 2 is much better. I found it a lot less stressful. Don't get me wrong, I was very nervous beforehand, but you're in a much more natural environment and your nerves will soon settle once on the road. After years of driving cars with self-cancelling indicators, my biggest concern was forgetting to cancel a signal. Thankfully everything went swimmingly!

Of course, if you're unlucky, other road users might force you into a difficult situation. But this is unlikely, and there's no point stressing over something that may or may not happen. And if it does, just deal with the situation as it arises and you'll be fine.

I remember being behind a van travelling at 30mph on a 50mph stretch of dual carriageway. I was reluctant to overtake, but didn't want to be seen to be not making progress. As soon as I pulled out to pass the van, he accelerated up to 50mph chucking out loads of smoke in the process. I couldn't complete the overtake without breaking the speed limit, and ended up backing off and dropping back in behind the van. The examiner didn't even mention this afterwards, but I allowed it to play on my mind throughout the remainder of the test!

The worst bit out the way now! You've got this!

Caddyshack

10,834 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Glad to hear you passed.

Keep us posted with how the mod 2 training goes.

Orchardab

448 posts

127 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Congratulations, get Mod2 done now and have the good weather to look forward to o a bike.

66mpg

651 posts

108 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Congratulations. I failed Mod1 twice as well. I was so pleased to get a date for Mod2 two days later, and pass it without any drama.

Caddyshack

10,834 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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I think brand new bikers may struggle more with mod 1 as it is muscle memory control but perhaps fair better on mod 2 as they don’t have poor habits.

My friend has been riding for many years but only just passed his test, mod 1 for him did not really need any training other than what the examiner was expecting and passed straight away, he then failed mod 2 twice on silly habits.

Dog Star

16,144 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'd never pass a test now, and I've been riding 40 years! rofl

Go round the block, if you came back, you'd passed. Had to do an emergency stop but the instructors we so terrified of the lack of skill of the riders that they'd step out about half a mile away. You had to accelerate up to them to do the stop so they could see it.

Then straight out to by a Honda CBX! God knows how I'm still here. Although plenty of my contempories never made it out of their teens.
I did my test on a derestricted MTX125R and popped a wheelie - Bolton getting onto the A666 - when it went NSL. Instructor said “good how you got up to speed, you went like a bat out of hell” rofl I remember the ride round the block and instructor jumps out thing.

I do remember in my early 20s going to quite a few funerals for biker friends. These petered out over the years as those fortunate to not be on the wrong place at the wrong time gained experience. Now my biker mates have stuff like knackered hips, tumours etc. but still better than being dead.

black-k1

11,935 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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ghibbett said:
Hello all.

Firstly thank you to everyone who has replied and all the positive encouragement. I've read and re-read it all multiple times.

So today was my third attempt and....I passed!! Thank fk for that!

Nailed the U-turn this time - quite right too, I've probably done around 60-70 in practice, which is likely more than many people do in their biking lives!

Did pick up a minor for the emergency stop. It was raining and the back wheel slightly skidded. A clean sweep would have been nice, but I'm happy to have achieved a pass.

Onto Mod 2 next :-)
Well done - you're on your way.

Krikkit

26,538 posts

182 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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Caddyshack said:
My friend has been riding for many years but only just passed his test, mod 1 for him did not really need any training other than what the examiner was expecting and passed straight away, he then failed mod 2 twice on silly habits.
I think this is the biggest problem with people riding a 125 on a CBT with little training - they develop bad habits and struggle to break them when they try and do it properly.

One of the guys in my group when I did my DAS had been riding his 125 for 4 years beforehand, had a load of awful habits and failed Mod2 spectacularly (the examiner cut the test short).

Caddyshack

10,834 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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Krikkit said:
Caddyshack said:
My friend has been riding for many years but only just passed his test, mod 1 for him did not really need any training other than what the examiner was expecting and passed straight away, he then failed mod 2 twice on silly habits.
I think this is the biggest problem with people riding a 125 on a CBT with little training - they develop bad habits and struggle to break them when they try and do it properly.

One of the guys in my group when I did my DAS had been riding his 125 for 4 years beforehand, had a load of awful habits and failed Mod2 spectacularly (the examiner cut the test short).[/quote


Yes, I can see that would be an issue and if, like me, at 49 they have been driving a car for so long then they have developed bad car driver habits etc..


My friend did get a rough outcome on one mod 2 as his examiner did not like that he indicated off a roundabout when there was nobody to indicate to and then on the dual carriage way he had joined he indicated back in after overtaking a car. There may have been more to it but over indication does not seem all that dangerous to me but I guess it could display robotic riding as opposed to a proper connection and observation to then make the call.

The instructor spoke to me about it as I was training a few weeks later and he felt that the examiner was having a grumpy day, they did appeal it. On the 3rd Mod 2 he passed and had the head examiner do the test and she gave him a no minors pass.

Markgenesis

536 posts

133 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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My instructor said he hated the Mod 1, he said he had so many students who were great out on the road but as soon as they are in that compound and the gates are shut it was as if they had never seen a bike before, he said it could easily have been incorporated into the test, it's only done in a compound to suit the EU as the speed tests are measured in KPH not MPH.

Krikkit

26,538 posts

182 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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Markgenesis said:
My instructor said he hated the Mod 1, he said he had so many students who were great out on the road but as soon as they are in that compound and the gates are shut it was as if they had never seen a bike before, he said it could easily have been incorporated into the test, it's only done in a compound to suit the EU as the speed tests are measured in KPH not MPH.
I actually thought it made sense to learn those skills away from the road - you can do so much more practice in an open area, get past your nerves etc...

Maybe I'm wrong, you can only learn once! biggrin

Waynester

6,348 posts

251 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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ghibbett said:
Hello all.

Firstly thank you to everyone who has replied and all the positive encouragement. I've read and re-read it all multiple times.

So today was my third attempt and....I passed!! Thank fk for that!

Nailed the U-turn this time - quite right too, I've probably done around 60-70 in practice, which is likely more than many people do in their biking lives!

Did pick up a minor for the emergency stop. It was raining and the back wheel slightly skidded. A clean sweep would have been nice, but I'm happy to have achieved a pass.

Onto Mod 2 next :-)
Well done.. a pass is a pass. Mod 2 and then biking freedom smile

ghibbett

1,901 posts

186 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Thank you all so much for your respective replies love

Yes I was on cloud 9 after passing Mod 1. I even got a bit choked up when the examiner confirmed I'd passed...the relief was palpable!

Mod 2 booked for next week. Looking forward to it.

epicfail

196 posts

136 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Marvellous - I hope that goes well.

I did my DAS a year ago; once I got past the U turn I was pretty sure the rest would be ok and it was.

The weather for my Mod 2 was horrible rain and cold - maybe a good thing as I think the examiner chose an easier route.

Only one tip - If it is wet don't forget the 4 second rule. I got a minor for being a bit too close, fortunately not for long, I know someone who failed on this.

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Congratulations on your Mod 1 pass. That's the hard bit done, Mod 2 is a breeze.

I've been following this thread intently, having just had the O/H go through her Mod 1 & 2. She had terrible luck with it, cancelled tests due to strikes, weather, and failed both tests the first time. Thankfully she passed yesterday, because by fking Christ I couldn't take anymore of the persistent questions, or going over it constantly. Now all I've got to endure is getting sent st for sale adverts for bland fking Hondas.

Dog Star

16,144 posts

169 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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moanthebairns said:
Now all I've got to endure is getting sent st for sale adverts for bland fking Hondas.
Mrs DS's R1 is for sale .....

wink

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Dog Star said:
moanthebairns said:
Now all I've got to endure is getting sent st for sale adverts for bland fking Hondas.
Mrs DS's R1 is for sale .....

wink
I'm trying to get her to scratch the GSXR 600 itch I have. I've even offered to go halfers on it. But no, for some fking reason she wants a CB500f. I cannot understand her infatuation with anything fking Honda and I've a Blade sat there. When she say she loves them, I'm pretty sure Its similar to when I say to people I like helicopters..... 'Oh look a red one', knowing fk all else about them.