Failed Mod 2, dropped the bike.

Failed Mod 2, dropped the bike.

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N111BJG

1,085 posts

64 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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I dropped my bike on myself at Tesco filling station because I slipped on diesel. I couldn't get out & two blokes had to lift the bike off me.

I did it again at the petrol station in Dover en route to a trip to the Alps. I couldn't pick it on my own that time either as it was so slippery, my mates had to help me.

In Germany on another trip ……. & so on.

Moral of my experience is that bikes tend to want to obey Mr Gravity & have a lie down at every opportunity, sneaky little buggers.

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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OP, if you aint falling off it, you aint trying hard enough!

It's down to confidence and you learned a valuable lesson just. If you had a dodgy lesson, sometimes when you are learning (and you will be for years) it is better to park up and go take a break, come back another time. Confidence is a very fickle thing, too little and you're fked, too much and well, guess what...…!!

Dont worry about it, don't dwell on it. Ive riden and raced for years. Some days you just aint feeling it, and no matter what you do, it doesn't seem to work. Other days, you arrive in the paddock, and you just know it is going to be your day.

If it were easy, you'd get your licence in a Xmas cracker- dust yourself off, have a decent cuppa and get back out there.

shirt

22,600 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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my first 'off' was during yard based handling exercises on a 180cc honda unicorn. probably equivalent of CBT/Mod1 type stuff. glad i got it out the way early although i'm sure there'll be others in future. i'd much rather drop a bike at low speed and look a prize pillock than have a major accident.

Fastdruid

8,649 posts

153 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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2wheelsjimmy said:
Don't beat yourself up. I didn't drop the bike training, but did twice since passing. It happens.
Easy enough to do. Get the balance wrong, slip and there it goes. Or once in my case I stopped and my boot lace had become entangled in the peg and I couldn't put my foot down!

2wheelsjimmy said:
Examiner doesnt sound too friendly. Shame you didnt have one on a bike.
Mine was on a bike and wasn't any friendlier.

I've never had someone who's words and tone sounded as much at odds when he said "I'm pleased to tell you you've passed".

iamneallyons

14 posts

77 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Sounds like a bad day at the office pal - i just passed my mod-2 on xmas eve (passed the mod1&2 first time) but i stalled doing a creep and peep at a junction where people had parked their vans literally on the junction so i couldnt see anything down the road without creeping out - managed to keep composure, pull the clutch and fire the bike up again and i was literally turning right in 100 yards back into the test centre an i thought i had failed due to that.

Just get back on the horse and keep trying, i watched a lot of "motojitsu" youtube channel which i found absolutely superb!

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

156 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Still can't U'turn.

Dakkon

7,826 posts

254 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Even the most experienced of us stall bikes now and then.

You know what you did wrong, so don't beat yourself up about it, saddle time will cure a lot of this.

scorcher

3,986 posts

235 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Rubin215 said:
I'm extremely surprised the examiner left you there if the bike was still rideable and you were unhurt, I instructed for ten years and I have never know that happen.

In my experience, the examiner would normally finish the test no matter how many faults unless they felt the student was dangerous, in which case he would guide the student back to the test centre and cut the test short there.
You have paid for an allotted amount if the examiner's time and every minute on the road is practise.

What would have happened if you had just set off by yourself and ridden back alone?
You would have been breaking the law on several counts but he is the one who has abandoned you.

As a learner (DAS) the only time you should never be on the road unless you are accompanied by an approved instructor or examiner.

Speak to the training centre manager and ask what they think.
Certainly leave you on the side of the road in cars if the examiner pulls the test even if the car is insured for any driver. My missus has had to walk to pick up her pupil after being abandoned on the side of the road and has taken several other instructors to pick up their pupils after being abandoned a couple of miles away from the test centre and the examiner has walked back.

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

145 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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You should try motocross/ enduro. We crash and drop bikes all the time laugh

Unlucky OP, probably just exam nerves. I just passed my MOD 1 this morning. Did something proper daft which I haven’t done before, I forgot to put the stand back up so the ignition cut when I put it in gear. Don’t think the examiner noticed as I didn’t get any minors.

stu67

812 posts

189 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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My best mate and I did our tests on the same day back when you were just sent off on a course by the examiner. He dropped his bike on a mini roundabout unseen by the instructor, got back on and passed. He was riding an old MZ with the indicator on the end of the bars, it had snapped off along with the end of the clutch, the examiner failed to notice or chose to ignore this fact, we still laugh about it. Anyway if they were easy to ride everyone would be doing it.
Best of luck next time

Swifty0824

12 posts

67 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Not sure if this gonna help OP but I dropped the bike for one time before my MOD1 then dropped it for THREE times in the morning exercise before my MOD2 test.

It's more like all these drops had also wiped away my stress so when I was doing the test I have no strange feeling at all - how can it be anything worse than drop the bike three times in an hour? I then passed both my tests smile

Just relax, you will get it smile

zeb

3,202 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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BobSaunders said:
Still can't U'turn.
dont look down, look where you want to end up and it will happen.

Markgenesis

Original Poster:

536 posts

133 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Lesson learned too as I had no idea stalling the bike could cause a drop, just a combination of the bars being turned and slight downhill keeping the bike moving but stuck in gear. If I do that junction again (either lesson or test) i'm putting both feet down (i'll tell my instructor this), i'd rather pick up a minor for that that drop the bike again.

iamneallyons said:
Just get back on the horse and keep trying, i watched a lot of "motojitsu" youtube channel which i found absolutely superb!
He is good, a lot of post test practice stuff too, I've found RJH Trainings vids very good too, and the Cop Motorman, so much good stuff on YouTube.

CousinDupree

779 posts

68 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Don't be too hard on yourself, you'll pass next time.

As above, it's easy to drop a bike, if you stall at the wrong time. 650s are pretty heavy compared to the earlier 125s and even 250 learner bikes before them.

The examiner isn't going to let a learner ride with a broken brake lever, after a dropping it. What would happen if the leaner went for the brake approaching a busy junction, then panicked? They can't take that risk.

Bumblebee7

1,527 posts

76 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Everyone makes silly mistakes every now and then. I got on my parked bike in Berkeley Square, turned it on, waited for a gap in the flow of cars and pinned the throttle. Next thing I know I'm having a very unexpected flying lesson. Turns out my disc lock was still on the front wheel bangheadlaugh

Then I had to go lift the bloody thing off the road (230kg NC750X). I was fine, and not much damage to the bike.

As per the other posts, it happens.

Kiribati268

570 posts

138 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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As already said, dust yourself off, crack on and give it another go. Get some more training done and get it passed next time round. Once you pass you'll be able to laugh this off as one of those st happens moments. The examiner being in a car must have been very off putting too, I didn't even think they did that.


I'll also agree with you about it being much harder than driving an artic. I have done my C+E and compared to the DAS it was much easier. When learning on the bike there's a lot more to think about and it happens much faster, so if you cock up there's much less time to fix it. In an artic you've got less options, so you can take your time to make sure you have room to make your move. So you're not alone with that one.

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

145 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Kiribati268 said:
The examiner being in a car must have been very off putting too,
Apparently common at the centre in Glasgow that I’m about to use for MOD 2, as the examiner doesn’t have the use of one of his arms any more so can’t ride.

Markgenesis

Original Poster:

536 posts

133 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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Hi Guys, thought i'd post an update to this, passed my Mod 2 earlier, same examiner too, felt a lot more confident this time though, less nervous, had a great lesson last Saturday (even though it was on a crappy Keyway 125 as the 650 Gladius was off the road), great lesson thismorning before the test so I was in a much better frame of mind, all done though, going to take my GSXR600 round local streets to get used to it.

Markgenesis

Original Poster:

536 posts

133 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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Gilhooligan said:
Apparently common at the centre in Glasgow that I’m about to use for MOD 2, as the examiner doesn’t have the use of one of his arms any more so can’t ride.
That's the guy I got, he was in a white Volvo last time and a black Moka this time, he's actually quite a fair examiner.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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You kept that a bit quiet tongue out