Loud Bikes or quiet

Loud Bikes or quiet

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Chicken dinner

3,021 posts

26 months

Saturday 4th July
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black-k1 said:
PushedDover said:
MaverickV12 said:
As a Harley Davidson rider, I believe its my divine duty to provide a musical note that all pedestrians and others can stop, look and listen to.....



Personally, mine would wake the dead..... just the way it should be. My worst nightmare would be an electric bike
How fking childish
Blunt, scratchchin .... but accurate

I'd also add fking selfish, fking inconsiderate and fking rude.

We already have a thread running highlighting that bikes with legal noise levels are being banned from certain roads and this gets posted! rolleyes
I really can't understand your logic.
How does this thread impact noisy bikes being banned in parts of Austria?

All my cars and most of my bikes are noisy, none obnoxiously so, apart from the TVR but that doesn't get out much and never at antisocial hours.


From a forum that had its origins as a TVR forum and has a hidden section where the tunnel runs were organised, things have gone downhill

WarnieV6GT

1,017 posts

157 months

Saturday 4th July
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Depends on the engine for me. A 4 cylinder apart from the yamaha cross plane is a no.

Good sounding twins, triples and V4's I love to hear. I still remember being in cmc motorcycles when I assumed I heard some sort of exotic supercar turn up. Turns out it was an Aprilia tuono V4 with an Austin racing pipe on.

Christ it was nice. I'm the same with cars, I love the Alfa busso V6 hence my user name but now drive a Bmw V8. The Alfa had a wizard exhaust that would be considered loud i imagine but it was a lovely loud..

I don't do loud for louds sake. My Fireblade had a quiet can but my speed triple has a shorter one that I sometimes remove the baffle from. If I do I keep the revs down in built up areas etc.

I see some cans though that are almost non existent. Can't see me running one of those for too long..

Edited by WarnieV6GT on Saturday 4th July 07:56

Pit Pony

3,155 posts

79 months

Saturday 4th July
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Vickers_VC10 said:
MaverickV12 said:
As a Harley Davidson rider, I believe its my divine duty to provide a musical note that all pedestrians and others can stop, look and listen to.....



Personally, mine would wake the dead..... just the way it should be. My worst nightmare would be an electric bike
I don't think this is going to go the way you want.
I fking hate noisy vehicles.

I have 2 homes. One on a main road in a small town in Staffordshire. There seems to be a thing about driving at 40 mph in a 30 in second year.
Everything from wky little mopeds to multi cylinder sports bikes, from stty Corsas with peco exhausts to Whooshing dump valves.
On a Saturday night in the summer, it's impossible to sleep with the windows open.
We knew when we bought it it was on a main road, and I can deal with high volumes of traffic, but it's the pointless reving that really pissed me off.

The other is on a quiet cul-de-sac about 1/2 a mile from the local bypass. On a Sunday Afternoon, you can hear bikers giving it a Santapod start from the traffic lights. I just think "Tosser"

Ask yourself, will I wake the neighbours? If the answer is yes, ask yourself if this matters to you.

I'm saying this as a man that has owned an RD350LC on Expansion pipes and a Z500 with a 4 into 1 Ansa with next to no baffles, which spat fire on the over run, and whose house mates didn't need an alarm clock.


Weso

326 posts

162 months

Saturday 4th July
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Pit Pony said:
I fking hate noisy vehicles.

I have 2 homes. One on a main road in a small town in Staffordshire. There seems to be a thing about driving at 40 mph in a 30 in second year.
Everything from wky little mopeds to multi cylinder sports bikes, from stty Corsas with peco exhausts to Whooshing dump valves.
On a Saturday night in the summer, it's impossible to sleep with the windows open.
We knew when we bought it it was on a main road, and I can deal with high volumes of traffic, but it's the pointless reving that really pissed me off.

The other is on a quiet cul-de-sac about 1/2 a mile from the local bypass. On a Sunday Afternoon, you can hear bikers giving it a Santapod start from the traffic lights. I just think "Tosser"

Ask yourself, will I wake the neighbours? If the answer is yes, ask yourself if this matters to you.

I'm saying this as a man that has owned an RD350LC on Expansion pipes and a Z500 with a 4 into 1 Ansa with next to no baffles, which spat fire on the over run, and whose house mates didn't need an alarm clock.
So you're saying that when you had bikes with loud pipes it was ok, but now you don't it's not and anyone that does is a tosser?

cliffords

771 posts

125 months

Saturday 4th July
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I cant stand the noise of HD's , its such a mechanically unsympathetic noise , it literally accentuates the dreadful mechanical sound at an enhanced volume. You would think they would want to hide this mechanical monstrosity .

Pit Pony

3,155 posts

79 months

Saturday 4th July
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Weso said:
Pit Pony said:
I fking hate noisy vehicles.

I have 2 homes. One on a main road in a small town in Staffordshire. There seems to be a thing about driving at 40 mph in a 30 in second year.
Everything from wky little mopeds to multi cylinder sports bikes, from stty Corsas with peco exhausts to Whooshing dump valves.
On a Saturday night in the summer, it's impossible to sleep with the windows open.
We knew when we bought it it was on a main road, and I can deal with high volumes of traffic, but it's the pointless reving that really pissed me off.

The other is on a quiet cul-de-sac about 1/2 a mile from the local bypass. On a Sunday Afternoon, you can hear bikers giving it a Santapod start from the traffic lights. I just think "Tosser"

Ask yourself, will I wake the neighbours? If the answer is yes, ask yourself if this matters to you.

I'm saying this as a man that has owned an RD350LC on Expansion pipes and a Z500 with a 4 into 1 Ansa with next to no baffles, which spat fire on the over run, and whose house mates didn't need an alarm clock.
So you're saying that when you had bikes with loud pipes it was ok, but now you don't it's not and anyone that does is a tosser?
I'm saying I WAS a tosser. And I've learnt to be a better person.
The noise from the bikes I owned over 35 years ago was unacceptable then, and unacceptable now.

To be fair, I think that i had the realisation, in 1987, when I was walking home from the pub, and there was a police car parked in a bid stop and a very quiet merc went past at about 60 in a 30.
No responce.
A minute later a mk2 escort mexico went past with noisy sporty exhaust at about 50 in the 30, possibly in 2nd gear. It was quite loud as it slowed for the bend. Police woke up and put their lights and sirens on and chased after them.


Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

12 months

Saturday 4th July
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Pit Pony said:
I'm saying I WAS a tosser. And I've learnt to be a better person.
The noise from the bikes I owned over 35 years ago was unacceptable then, and unacceptable now.

To be fair, I think that i had the realisation, in 1987, when I was walking home from the pub, and there was a police car parked in a bid stop and a very quiet merc went past at about 60 in a 30.
No responce.
A minute later a mk2 escort mexico went past with noisy sporty exhaust at about 50 in the 30, possibly in 2nd gear. It was quite loud as it slowed for the bend. Police woke up and put their lights and sirens on and chased after them.
A tosser because of what would happen to you.....rather than what you were inflicting on others ?

Brads67

3,199 posts

56 months

Saturday 4th July
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cliffords said:
I cant stand the noise of HD's , its such a mechanically unsympathetic noise , it literally accentuates the dreadful mechanical sound at an enhanced volume. You would think they would want to hide this mechanical monstrosity .
So you've never heard a Harley Davidson then ? I'm assuming that's what you mean.

Dr Jekyll

20,396 posts

219 months

Saturday 4th July
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MrGman said:
Let me leave this here


https://youtu.be/T2ZZW2xfb6E
Utterly brilliant. Though I would say I find the low pitched sound of a Harley less annoying than the high pitched howl of a high revving sportsbike.

black-k1

9,468 posts

187 months

Saturday 4th July
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Chicken dinner said:
black-k1 said:
PushedDover said:
MaverickV12 said:
As a Harley Davidson rider, I believe its my divine duty to provide a musical note that all pedestrians and others can stop, look and listen to.....



Personally, mine would wake the dead..... just the way it should be. My worst nightmare would be an electric bike
How fking childish
Blunt, scratchchin .... but accurate

I'd also add fking selfish, fking inconsiderate and fking rude.

We already have a thread running highlighting that bikes with legal noise levels are being banned from certain roads and this gets posted! rolleyes
I really can't understand your logic.
How does this thread impact noisy bikes being banned in parts of Austria?

All my cars and most of my bikes are noisy, none obnoxiously so, apart from the TVR but that doesn't get out much and never at antisocial hours.


From a forum that had its origins as a TVR forum and has a hidden section where the tunnel runs were organised, things have gone downhill
Do you really think that Mr and Mrs Average in Austria are so very different to Mr and Mrs Average in the UK? Many of the same things will piss them off. Do you really think that an approach to managing noise adopted in Austria is unlikely to be adopted elsewhere in the EU and in the UK if it's shown "to work"?

Noisy bikes (and cars) piss people off. That's why there are regulations governing noise! That's why there are always complaints about noise! Ignoring that or thinking it doesn't apply to you is either pig ignorant or unbelievably selfish. Or, probably, both.


black-k1

9,468 posts

187 months

Saturday 4th July
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Pit Pony said:
I'm saying I WAS a tosser. And I've learnt to be a better person.
The noise from the bikes I owned over 35 years ago was unacceptable then, and unacceptable now.

To be fair, I think that i had the realisation, in 1987, when I was walking home from the pub, and there was a police car parked in a bid stop and a very quiet merc went past at about 60 in a 30.
No responce.
A minute later a mk2 escort mexico went past with noisy sporty exhaust at about 50 in the 30, possibly in 2nd gear. It was quite loud as it slowed for the bend. Police woke up and put their lights and sirens on and chased after them.
But the chief constable wasn't driving the escort! wink

WaspsNest

136 posts

148 months

Saturday 4th July
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Good thread at an apt time for me. I have a 2012 Street Triple, a bike that has a cool engine noise (I think). I went on the forums and everyone was suggesting SP Engineering pipes that wake the noise up a bit, so I bought a pair.

Great build quality but with the baffles out, the noise is just utterly ridiculous, the bangs and grumbles are nice on the over-run but whilst out I have kids covering their ears, dogs barking, and in any gear at any revs it’s just so damn loud. So, baffles in, it makes the sound really raspy and horrible like a Vauxhall Nova with cherry-bomb. Lovely at full chat, but. Not so good at normal speeds.

So, bought a set of TOR exhausts for it, which is a happy medium, but on the nice sunny days when I’m out in the country I kind of yearn for the cracklings and grumbling that comes from the SP pipes.

It’d be lovely if the pipes had a volume control for all occasions. In the meantime I’m switching them over every other week as I’m either “ach this is too quiet” or “Jesus lads, this is too loud”

I don’t mind loud vehicles, and actually love the sound that HD’s make, but also understand that not everyone is the same and some people want to live in peace.

The saga continues, cool story bro etc.

Salted_Peanut

402 posts

12 months

Saturday 4th July
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Scobblelotcher said:
I don’t like obnoxiously loud bikes they just give us all a bad name ... which will ruin it for everyone
^ this.

black-k1 said:
Noisy bikes (and cars) piss people off.
yes And pissing people off will (eventually) ruin motorcycling for everyone.

Hungrymc

4,759 posts

95 months

Saturday 4th July
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Got to be honest. Back when I was young, I liked noisy bikes, particularly V Twins. I’m talking back in the late 90s, early 00s.

But dawned on me that it’s just pissing other people off and it makes it harder to enjoy a bike as you get loads of attention.

Ever since, although I still like the sound off a raucous V-twin (or v-four these days) I’ve prioritized being able to use the bikes without any more attention than absolutely necessary.

MaverickV12

Original Poster:

1,011 posts

96 months

Saturday 4th July
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Ok guys, first thing first, that YouTube Video was brilliant, I put the link on FaceBook, thank you.



I'm on other Harley Davidson Forums and the people with straight through exhaust pipes is mostly everyone, some are silenced. You do need to know that a lot of bikes come out of the Franchise Dealership with a loud exhaust.

I also drive like a 90yo, and I don't race anywhere, I live in a densely populated City and about 2kms from a CentralPoliceStation, must see 10 Police cars a day, I think the secret to driving past them is keep it slow, low RPM, keep it legal.

Pretty much everyone leaves me alone. Contrary to popular believe HD's are not all slow, if anyone knows about them, the AirCooled ones are like CanalBarges, the Liquid cooled ones have 140bhp ish, I have a fast one, but I drive slow.

I also have a tiny number plate, Police are regularly sat behind me in traffic, tiny number plate, loud exhaust, and its not as though I just picked the bike up, I've been driving for years, not pulled over yet.



But to be fair, I'm older and pretty damn considerate (except for the noise) in the Country I came across a herd of cows being moved in the road, instantly turned the engine off and waited, farmer was smiling and thanked me, Horses? Silence the engine, the Horse riders smile and thank me. Children on bicycles, give them huge space, don't scare them, wait in traffic and I don't filter (bike a bit too big anyway).

Being in a City we are packed with scooter delivery bikes and they filter like mad, I'm sat in front of Police and I'm never bothered. Wear proper kit, Comms systems, people know you're a more serious rider than some 17yo on a scooter constantly driving at max rpm.

I've never had a problem .... had a couple of cars try to take me, but with 0-60 in 3.5 seconds!!! But keeping slow, I find is the best way of not being pulled over ..... although I do have to play the stereo comms system loud to hear

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

12 months

Saturday 4th July
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You seem happy to spoil Cheddar Gorge for most of the other people there however........there are moves now to ban/regulate cars and bikes now....... thanks for that.

Thinking the way you do (along with the "Drifting idiots") is going to spoil it for everyone.

Edited by Dont like rolls on Saturday 4th July 10:21

the tribester

964 posts

44 months

Saturday 4th July
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All bikers like loud pipes don't they?


black-k1

9,468 posts

187 months

Saturday 4th July
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Salted_Peanut said:
black-k1 said:
Noisy bikes (and cars) piss people off.
yes And pissing people off will (eventually) ruin motorcycling for everyone.
yes

As has started in Austria!


PushedDover

2,065 posts

11 months

Saturday 4th July
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Chicken dinner said:
I really can't understand your logic.
How does this thread impact noisy bikes being banned in parts of Austria?

All my cars and most of my bikes are noisy, none obnoxiously so, apart from the TVR but that doesn't get out much and never at antisocial hours.


From a forum that had its origins as a TVR forum and has a hidden section where the tunnel runs were organised, things have gone downhill
You are part of the problem.
Sadly you don’t recognise it.

And For the Record , there is no such thing as social hours for Loud Exhaust. All hours are antisocial.


black-k1

9,468 posts

187 months

Saturday 4th July
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MaverickV12 said:
Ok guys, first thing first, that YouTube Video was brilliant, I put the link on FaceBook, thank you.



I'm on other Harley Davidson Forums and the people with straight through exhaust pipes is mostly everyone, some are silenced. You do need to know that a lot of bikes come out of the Franchise Dealership with a loud exhaust.

I also drive like a 90yo, and I don't race anywhere, I live in a densely populated City and about 2kms from a CentralPoliceStation, must see 10 Police cars a day, I think the secret to driving past them is keep it slow, low RPM, keep it legal.

Pretty much everyone leaves me alone. Contrary to popular believe HD's are not all slow, if anyone knows about them, the AirCooled ones are like CanalBarges, the Liquid cooled ones have 140bhp ish, I have a fast one, but I drive slow.

I also have a tiny number plate, Police are regularly sat behind me in traffic, tiny number plate, loud exhaust, and its not as though I just picked the bike up, I've been driving for years, not pulled over yet.



But to be fair, I'm older and pretty damn considerate (except for the noise) in the Country I came across a herd of cows being moved in the road, instantly turned the engine off and waited, farmer was smiling and thanked me, Horses? Silence the engine, the Horse riders smile and thank me. Children on bicycles, give them huge space, don't scare them, wait in traffic and I don't filter (bike a bit too big anyway).

Being in a City we are packed with scooter delivery bikes and they filter like mad, I'm sat in front of Police and I'm never bothered. Wear proper kit, Comms systems, people know you're a more serious rider than some 17yo on a scooter constantly driving at max rpm.

I've never had a problem .... had a couple of cars try to take me, but with 0-60 in 3.5 seconds!!! But keeping slow, I find is the best way of not being pulled over ..... although I do have to play the stereo comms system loud to hear
Do you realise that being considerate for some things doesn't "balance out" being a selfish tit elsewhere? I live in the country side, about a mile from the main road yet sunny weekends are still disturbed by selfish tits on the main road.

It's not always obvious who you're pissing off!