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To be fair would explain why he fell back so far after an initially cracking start. Fabio had front tyre pressure problem apparently, looked like a front tyre problem from the couch.
Roll on next round, I'm drooling with anticipation, can't remember the last time we had three such great races in one weekend.
Roll on next round, I'm drooling with anticipation, can't remember the last time we had three such great races in one weekend.
Centurion07 said:
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
amgmcqueen said:
Never his fault is it...
Unless he is the mechanic on the bike, no. He seemed to manage in every session up till the race as well so clearly he just decided not to try on the Sunday.
With the likes of rins, mir , Marquez, bagnaia, quattararo being middle aged and average is no longer good enough ( unless you have a huge sponsor who buys your ride)
egor110 said:
This is the trouble though for crutchlow , for his few great results there are more midtable mediocrities or worse dnf.
With the likes of rins, mir , Marquez, bagnaia, quattararo being middle aged and average is no longer good enough ( unless you have a huge sponsor who buys your ride)
Crutchlow, ‘average’, have a word with yourself! With the likes of rins, mir , Marquez, bagnaia, quattararo being middle aged and average is no longer good enough ( unless you have a huge sponsor who buys your ride)
Centurion07 said:
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
amgmcqueen said:
Never his fault is it...
Unless he is the mechanic on the bike, no. He seemed to manage in every session up till the race as well so clearly he just decided not to try on the Sunday.
Also, Lorenzo got hammered in the comments a few races ago for once throwing his gloves about in the pit garage, for being unprofessional and a child. Dovi seems to have got a free pass for his hissy fit. Can someone plain the difference? I’m guessing that Lorenzo threw his left glove and Dovi his right so there’s different meanings behind it or something.
unident said:
Can someone explain the difference between Crutchlow having a st race and being defended compared to Vinales having one and getting slaughtered for it?
Also, Lorenzo got hammered in the comments a few races ago for once throwing his gloves about in the pit garage, for being unprofessional and a child. Dovi seems to have got a free pass for his hissy fit. Can someone plain the difference? I’m guessing that Lorenzo threw his left glove and Dovi his right so there’s different meanings behind it or something.
Maybe because Cal isn't on a works bike and has never been hailed as the second coming...? Also, Lorenzo got hammered in the comments a few races ago for once throwing his gloves about in the pit garage, for being unprofessional and a child. Dovi seems to have got a free pass for his hissy fit. Can someone plain the difference? I’m guessing that Lorenzo threw his left glove and Dovi his right so there’s different meanings behind it or something.
Also, he doesn't tend to do his fastest lap in the last 2 or 3 laps of a race. And he's nearing the end of his career. And I've just realised who I've been responding to.
You're that guy that did the "Leave Britney alone!!!" video a few years back aren't you?
Edited by Centurion07 on Monday 19th October 15:58
covmutley said:
Hugely enjoyed the race today. Very interesting to watch the different bikes taking different lines through the corners. Marquez pushing hard to the end on the ragged edge.
Moto gp is so much better to watch than f1!
It certainly is, I gave up on F1 then went back to it when some young guns won a drive and spiced the racing up. But it’s drifting back into the bore fest sadly. Moto GP , Moto 2 and Moto 3 all provide fantastic racing spectacles. Outstanding skills and bravery from all of the riders and the television Moto gp is so much better to watch than f1!
coverage is simply stunning in terms of visuals and excellent commentary.
unident said:
Centurion07 said:
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
amgmcqueen said:
Never his fault is it...
Unless he is the mechanic on the bike, no. He seemed to manage in every session up till the race as well so clearly he just decided not to try on the Sunday.
Also, Lorenzo got hammered in the comments a few races ago for once throwing his gloves about in the pit garage, for being unprofessional and a child. Dovi seems to have got a free pass for his hissy fit. Can someone plain the difference? I’m guessing that Lorenzo threw his left glove and Dovi his right so there’s different meanings behind it or something.
unident said:
Can someone explain the difference between Crutchlow having a st race and being defended compared to Vinales having one and getting slaughtered for it?
Also, Lorenzo got hammered in the comments a few races ago for once throwing his gloves about in the pit garage, for being unprofessional and a child. Dovi seems to have got a free pass for his hissy fit. Can someone plain the difference? I’m guessing that Lorenzo threw his left glove and Dovi his right so there’s different meanings behind it or something.
Crutchlow finished 9 seconds off the win, after 41 mins of racing , and still has an arm injury that you would moan stops you typing . Also, Lorenzo got hammered in the comments a few races ago for once throwing his gloves about in the pit garage, for being unprofessional and a child. Dovi seems to have got a free pass for his hissy fit. Can someone plain the difference? I’m guessing that Lorenzo threw his left glove and Dovi his right so there’s different meanings behind it or something.
He is on arguably the worst bike on the grid this year (apart from Aprilia), and has missed races while recovering from what would be season ending surgery.
Vinales has the best bike on the grid, and manages to consistently under deliver with it.
ddom said:
egor110 said:
This is the trouble though for crutchlow , for his few great results there are more midtable mediocrities or worse dnf.
With the likes of rins, mir , Marquez, bagnaia, quattararo being middle aged and average is no longer good enough ( unless you have a huge sponsor who buys your ride)
Crutchlow, ‘average’, have a word with yourself! With the likes of rins, mir , Marquez, bagnaia, quattararo being middle aged and average is no longer good enough ( unless you have a huge sponsor who buys your ride)
Just to clarify im not saying he's st just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
Edited by egor110 on Monday 19th October 17:23
egor110 said:
Like i said up against these young riders rins, mir, alex m , quattararo , bagnaia he is .
Just to clarify im not saying he's st just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
No, the game hasnt moved on, the bikes are now as equal as they have ever been, thanks to good rules. Just to clarify im not saying he's st just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
Edited by egor110 on Monday 19th October 17:23
The 'tugger' or the field is Rabat, who finished 25 secs off the win. Nobody in that class is undeserving of being there.
So now you can see who can ride, and not who has 20hp more and tyres nobody else has.
He is a capable of winning as everyone else out there. And seeing what Marquez did, i would not be surprised to see Cal on the box next weekend.
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
egor110 said:
Like i said up against these young riders rins, mir, alex m , quattararo , bagnaia he is .
Just to clarify im not saying he's st just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
No, the game hasnt moved on, the bikes are now as equal as they have ever been, thanks to good rules. Just to clarify im not saying he's st just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
Edited by egor110 on Monday 19th October 17:23
The 'tugger' or the field is Rabat, who finished 25 secs off the win. Nobody in that class is undeserving of being there.
So now you can see who can ride, and not who has 20hp more and tyres nobody else has.
He is a capable of winning as everyone else out there. And seeing what Marquez did, i would not be surprised to see Cal on the box next weekend.
Centurion07 said:
Maybe because Cal isn't on a works bike and has never been hailed as the second coming...?
Also, he doesn't tend to do his fastest lap in the last 2 or 3 laps of a race. And he's nearing the end of his career. And I've just realised who I've been responding to.
You're that guy that did the "Leave Britney alone!!!" video a few years back aren't you?
Well apart from the factory bike that’s he’s on. Also, he doesn't tend to do his fastest lap in the last 2 or 3 laps of a race. And he's nearing the end of his career. And I've just realised who I've been responding to.
You're that guy that did the "Leave Britney alone!!!" video a few years back aren't you?
Edited by Centurion07 on Monday 19th October 15:58
It’s funny to see the reactions of you and others though. Crutchlow went backwards in a race due to a slipping clutch. Vinales did the same a few races back in Austria and got slaughtered for it.
I quite like Crutchlow he’s a nutter and seems to have the right outlook on things. It’s bizarre how when I’m looking for an explanation in the lack of consistently in slagging off riders all I get is poor reasoning and a few insults.
What does that Britney video bit mean?
Why is nobody questioning the fact the leader of the championship hasn’t won a race? If that’s true at the end of the year will people be happy with that?
unident said:
Centurion07 said:
Maybe because Cal isn't on a works bike and has never been hailed as the second coming...?
Also, he doesn't tend to do his fastest lap in the last 2 or 3 laps of a race. And he's nearing the end of his career. And I've just realised who I've been responding to.
You're that guy that did the "Leave Britney alone!!!" video a few years back aren't you?
Well apart from the factory bike that’s he’s on. Also, he doesn't tend to do his fastest lap in the last 2 or 3 laps of a race. And he's nearing the end of his career. And I've just realised who I've been responding to.
You're that guy that did the "Leave Britney alone!!!" video a few years back aren't you?
Edited by Centurion07 on Monday 19th October 15:58
It’s funny to see the reactions of you and others though. Crutchlow went backwards in a race due to a slipping clutch. Vinales did the same a few races back in Austria and got slaughtered for it.
I quite like Crutchlow he’s a nutter and seems to have the right outlook on things. It’s bizarre how when I’m looking for an explanation in the lack of consistently in slagging off riders all I get is poor reasoning and a few insults.
What does that Britney video bit mean?
Why is nobody questioning the fact the leader of the championship hasn’t won a race? If that’s true at the end of the year will people be happy with that?
Vinales didn't get slaughtered for going backwards due to a slipping clutch. He got slaughtered UNTIL it was discovered it was a clutch problem at which point people went "fair enough" and as has been mentioned, he was the next big thing on a factory bike in a factory TEAM with all the expertise and personnel that entails. THAT'S why he gets ripped.
As for the lack of race wins, in THIS season it's not really a surprise. This year is without precedent in every way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wG_h3U568w
Edited by Centurion07 on Monday 19th October 19:17
egor110 said:
Being in a factory team isn't the pinnacle it used to be , look at Yamaha all that experience and there being embarrassed by Petronas.
True, but the fact remains that a manufacturer has chosen him, over all others. That means that people with vastly more experience and vastly better eyes for talent than the rest of us have decided that he has what's required. At the moment he's coming up decidedly short.
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