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Centurion07 said:
egor110 said:
Being in a factory team isn't the pinnacle it used to be , look at Yamaha all that experience and there being embarrassed by Petronas.
True, but the fact remains that a manufacturer has chosen him, over all others. That means that people with vastly more experience and vastly better eyes for talent than the rest of us have decided that he has what's required. At the moment he's coming up decidedly short.
All experienced teams yet ones done a lot better than the other two .
egor110 said:
Like i said up against these young riders rins, mir, alex m , quattararo , bagnaia he is .
Just to clarify im not saying he's s
t just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
And he didn’t finish higher, or out qualify any on that list? Just to clarify im not saying he's s
t just this year the game has moved on .He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
Edited by egor110 on Monday 19th October 17:23
I’m not saying he’s not at the end of his GP career but he’s a f
king good rider and hard as nails.ddom said:
egor110 said:
Like i said up against these young riders rins, mir, alex m , quattararo , bagnaia he is .
Just to clarify im not saying he's st just this year the game has moved on .
He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
And he didn’t finish higher, or out qualify any on that list? Just to clarify im not saying he's s
t just this year the game has moved on .He's had a awesome career but it can't last forever just to tick the British rider box
Edited by egor110 on Monday 19th October 17:23
I’m not saying he’s not at the end of his GP career but he’s a f
king good rider and hard as nails.Things have moved on though and teams are gambling on younger riders again .
He's had a good career but its time to move on partly due to its better to get out when your still healthyish and more importantly none of the teams have wanted to sign him.
ajprice said:
Aren't the satellite bikes mechanically the same as the works team bikes without the full manufacturer support or updates through the year? (although updates aren't probably much this year).
Yes, here you go, here is the bike, you go and put it on the front row. What makes a factory team, a factory team, is the amount of people you have on hand for everything. Data guys, suspension guys , chassis data guys.
LCR wont have that , they have a guy that tested for HRC who knows the bike, and a few guys doing the whole lot across both bikes. ( i saw somewhere they had 3 guys across 2 bikes).
These arent race engineer/ crew chief or bolty types. but data engineers who just crunch the numbers, and try and get to where they need to be.
Now sometimes, having 'less cooks' can focus the mind on less things and get you further faster than looking at everything in minute detail.
egor110 said:
To be fair they also kept Rossi on and Ducati stuck with the same old dovi / petrucci combination whereas suzuki gambled on younger riders.
All experienced teams yet ones done a lot better than the other two .
But then being the underdog gives you a little more freedom in that regard, no?All experienced teams yet ones done a lot better than the other two .
egor110 said:
I agree .
Things have moved on though and teams are gambling on younger riders again .
He's had a good career but its time to move on partly due to its better to get out when your still healthyish and more importantly none of the teams have wanted to sign him.
Sorry, thought you said gangbang. Thread ruined Things have moved on though and teams are gambling on younger riders again .
He's had a good career but its time to move on partly due to its better to get out when your still healthyish and more importantly none of the teams have wanted to sign him.
Centurion07 said:
You make me laugh. You seem to like moaning about others moaning.
Vinales didn't get slaughtered for going backwards due to a slipping clutch. He got slaughtered UNTIL it was discovered it was a clutch problem at which point people went "fair enough" and as has been mentioned, he was the next big thing on a factory bike in a factory TEAM with all the expertise and personnel that entails. THAT'S why he gets ripped.
As for the lack of race wins, in THIS season it's not really a surprise. This year is without precedent in every way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wG_h3U568w
I just think it’s funny the way some on here slate riders for virtually nothing and let others get away with the same actions, even defending them. You all seem to like a pantomime villain. Pol was it for a while and then Vinales. Then you all massively overreact to one good race by someone (Binder). It was great when he won, but the KTM has struggled since yet you were all laughing at Pol having moved to Repsol at the wrong time. Vinales didn't get slaughtered for going backwards due to a slipping clutch. He got slaughtered UNTIL it was discovered it was a clutch problem at which point people went "fair enough" and as has been mentioned, he was the next big thing on a factory bike in a factory TEAM with all the expertise and personnel that entails. THAT'S why he gets ripped.
As for the lack of race wins, in THIS season it's not really a surprise. This year is without precedent in every way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wG_h3U568w
Edited by Centurion07 on Monday 19th October 19:17
If ever there was a season to register a win then this is it. No Marc Marquez means everyone has a chance. Mir has been the most consistent but he needs wins or I think a championship could be slightly tarnished. People are still split over Hayden’s title (at least they were up to his sad demise) where he barely led a lap in the whole season.
McPhee stays with Petronas in Moto3 alongside Binder - https://johnmcphee.co.uk/2020/10/20/john-to-remain...
Marc at home watching his brother https://twitter.com/marcmarquez93/status/131785490...
That right arm doesn't look right yet, he's resting it and moving his left arm around more.
That right arm doesn't look right yet, he's resting it and moving his left arm around more.
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