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egor110

16,902 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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So that's shuffled morbidelli into 4th place and dovi back to 5th.

Quattararo really needs to start getting on the podium pretty soon .

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Let's go Sam n Jake! bounce

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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hiccy18 said:
Other half just turned up wearing a fking Bezzechi top, WTF!?! mad
rofl

egor110

16,902 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Awesome , lowes is now leading the championship .

poo at Paul's

14,162 posts

176 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Watching on rewind, i see A Marquez really is learning off his brother!!

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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egor110 said:
Awesome , lowes is now leading the championship .
He's actually having a very consistent high points scoring season for Moto2, didn't take part in Qatar because of his injury, then 4th, 4th, 2nd, 4th, (DNF), 8th (from the pitlane), 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st.

That's a champions form, no ups and downs just solid. Bastianini and Marini have been up and down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Moto2_World_Cha...

loquacious

1,153 posts

158 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Watched all three races live (the only reason I have BT 'Youview') and every weekend JMcP depresses me. He is obviously quick in the races as even though he has to climb from whatever dismal starting slot he ambled into, he does get into the leading group very quickly. last week he even had a 'long lap' penalty and still got to the front. The kids quick but by the crin, he gets duffed up so often, is it because he just puts himself in the wrong place on the track or what?

Marquez, Marc that is, while I have never been a fan, I admire his skill, talent and HUGE cajones but this year, without him has been great racing! I found myself rooting for his kid brother massively and I was gutted when he binned it. I do like Marquez the younger and think he has come on leaps and bounds this year, it's only because his brother is such a freak on a bike (podium first race, winner second...) that the expectations for Alec were so unrealistic.

Sam, you star, I sat and watched MOTO2 with my fingers so crossed I've left dents in my knuckles! I am so used to the old Sam who could be relied upon to crash pretty much every race, I was dreading this race. But, he was in a class of his own. A British world champion?

Stuart Fordyce

1,247 posts

62 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Anyone else reckon both the Espagaro brothers should have been spoken to at least by race direction?

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Definitely the elder. Terrible pass on Dovi into turn 1.

ddom

6,657 posts

49 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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I'd love to hear from the armchair experts who slated Sam for getting the VDS ride now? Awesome ride. Factory bikes still on the back foot. Can't wait for MM to return now biggrin

Se7enheaven

1,726 posts

165 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Stuart Fordyce said:
Anyone else reckon both the Espagaro brothers should have been spoken to at least by race direction?
The pair of them come across as spoilt brats. And due to the Dorna connection escape reprimand on a regular basis. Pair of tcensoredts.

Stuart Fordyce

1,247 posts

62 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Se7enheaven said:
The pair of them come across as spoilt brats. And due to the Dorna connection escape reprimand on a regular basis. Pair of tcensoredts.
It's particularly the way they dish it out but can't take it back. Must pain them to have come second best to the Marquez brothers who are the real deal and they aren't close.

Cheeses of Nazareth

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789 posts

52 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Stuart Fordyce said:
It's particularly the way they dish it out but can't take it back. Must pain them to have come second best to the Marquez brothers who are the real deal and they aren't close.
As Cal had said, Pol has had everything he has had and done less with it.. I hope Alex Marquez spanks him out of sight next year.

As for the other one.. just dangerous.

hiccy18

2,690 posts

68 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Deflating from McPhee, one place down on last week and more importantly behind Arenas and Vietti, championship is basically gone now, will be lucky to get fourth in the end up. Cracking podium, really happy to see Toba and Sasaki even though I was gutted for John.

Franky was flawless, again; give that guy a top spec bike next year Yamaha! Mir had an incredible first lap, was gobsmacked when I saw him fifth and a solid ride home. Rins did all he could, another great ride and a great ride by Zarco too. Fabio dug deep for a so-so result and Dovi, oh dear; tyre issue?

Anyway the main event was the last race of the day for me: even though it was a strung out race with no hope of overtaking at the front Sam was impeccable and his pace is dominant at the moment, really hope that translates to Valencia. Very good ride from Diggia, if it wasn't for Sam he had that. Bastiannini rode a champions race, did the max and took as many points as he could. And Jake got Fernandez at the end, top man! Very fast group of riders he was racing against. Game over for Bezzechi I think and Marini not a lot better, think that title is a two horse race now, I hope...

Cheeses of Nazareth

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789 posts

52 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Well I have to say , as much as it pained me to see Nakagami bin it, you could see it coming, way off line , covering where he didn't need to and as a result lobbed it on a cold tyre..

He did not need to win that on the first lap, he just needed to sit in and see what happened, it would have done him good to get mugged off the line, and then that would have woke him up a bit. This was the first time he ever led a race, and while it might sound daft, the first thing you find out, is the fact you don't know fast to go... easy when you are in the pack, but when you are setting the pace on what is effectively an out lap, you have to make sure you don't get it wrong.

Quateraro is just a bottle job now, there is nothing wrong with the bike, its just him, he should have this won by now , but everyone seems scared to win the thing.

I hope Mir wins, because i don't see Dovi doing it, and i would rather see Suzuki win than Ducati. Ducati deserve nothing . I can really see Miller and Bagnaia just doing nothing there.

epom

11,562 posts

162 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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So much talk if McPhee every week in here. Yet nearly every single week after the race it’s a case of how poor he has been ? I know he’s a great British hope, but I think it might be time to move on to the next one.

Stuart Fordyce

1,247 posts

62 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Cheeses of Nazareth said:
Well I have to say , as much as it pained me to see Nakagami bin it, you could see it coming, way off line , covering where he didn't need to and as a result lobbed it on a cold tyre..

He did not need to win that on the first lap, he just needed to sit in and see what happened, it would have done him good to get mugged off the line, and then that would have woke him up a bit. This was the first time he ever led a race, and while it might sound daft, the first thing you find out, is the fact you don't know fast to go... easy when you are in the pack, but when you are setting the pace on what is effectively an out lap, you have to make sure you don't get it wrong.

Quateraro is just a bottle job now, there is nothing wrong with the bike, its just him, he should have this won by now , but everyone seems scared to win the thing.

I hope Mir wins, because i don't see Dovi doing it, and i would rather see Suzuki win than Ducati. Ducati deserve nothing . I can really see Miller and Bagnaia just doing nothing there.
One wonders if Ducati are going with two guys who've never been in a works team if in part because they'll do as they are told and won't talk back to Dal'Igna. He can tinker round the edges, and sometimes move the game on, such as with aerodynamics and launch control. Unfortunately these are then copied by the opposition, who this season in particular have fundamentally superior motorcycles.

Fabio Quatararo is doing his best to lose this championship - when it should be his for the taking. He seems to be getting weaker with a few great races as the season goes on - almost Vinales like. Morbidelli seems stronger somehow, even if he has fewer points (largely due to Zarco to be fair)!

Also, how is Aleix in MotoGP at all - his record is pretty unimpressive across all classes?

Cheeses of Nazareth

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789 posts

52 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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epom said:
So much talk if McPhee every week in here. Yet nearly every single week after the race it’s a case of how poor he has been ? I know he’s a great British hope, but I think it might be time to move on to the next one.
And who is that exactly?

Tom Booth Amos got the flick for Max Kofler, who has done no better on the bike, probably for the same reasons .

When you have a class that is rev limited , as Moto3 is, this is what you get, a class where even being half a tenth off, is a disaster.

We have nobody for at least 3 years in Moto3 , the last bloke we had pissed it up the wall and is tugging around in superstock.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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epom said:
So much talk if McPhee every week in here. Yet nearly every single week after the race it’s a case of how poor he has been ? I know he’s a great British hope, but I think it might be time to move on to the next one.
I think he's a better racer than Bradley and he made it all the way despite being a waaaay worse defensive rider.

Unfortunately I think things are so tight now in this class compared to when Brad was in it that you simply can't hide even the smallest in your armour and this is his IMO.

If he gets done by one or two riders on a lap he gets done by four or five. I reckon he probably makes twice as many overtakes as anyone else in that class! biggrin

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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ddom said:
I'd love to hear from the armchair experts who slated Sam for getting the VDS ride now? Awesome ride. Factory bikes still on the back foot. Can't wait for MM to return now biggrin
I'm happy to admit I'm one of those.

I'm over the moon he's doing well and we have a brit to cheer in Moto2, but, based on his performances in Moto2 preceding this season, there is no way he should've got that ride and anyone would be hard pushed to justify it.

He was throwing it down the road multiple times every weekend and you can perhaps blame that on having to override poor equipment, but once you've found the limit of your poor equipment there's nothing to be gained from continually stepping over that line is there?

I think he's been extremely lucky to have got the chance with VDS and thankfully for him and all of us he's doing a damn fine job of making the most of it.