Discussion
rampageturke said:
Still some teething issues that I hope they fix for next year, one big one being that commentary is always reacting to the same pictures we are, so there's a good second or so delay after the thing they are talking about has happened. Not good for live commentary. And the reporters/interviewers didn't really seem ready for live TV, but that will come with practice.
Also, a side note. I am both surprised and glad that we did not see a fatal accident live. Considering they had a lot of cameras and the live nature of the broadcast. Whether they had a mechanism in place to be able to stop that (such as delayed broadcasting) I don't know.
Coverage had a delay built in before broadcast , if you had the live timings on your phone going like I did , you'd see there was roughly 30 seconds delay in a rider showing at a check point , and then being shown on the broadcast .Also, a side note. I am both surprised and glad that we did not see a fatal accident live. Considering they had a lot of cameras and the live nature of the broadcast. Whether they had a mechanism in place to be able to stop that (such as delayed broadcasting) I don't know.
They were never going to show "live" footage because of the possibility of an incident.
As mentioned previously the IOM TT was the British GP round, but was removed in the mid-70s because a lot of the top riders including Barry Sheene didn’t ride there. There was a lot less of a division between GP riders and other riders than there is today and a lot of GP racing took place on road courses.
Newarch said:
As mentioned previously the IOM TT was the British GP round, but was removed in the mid-70s because a lot of the top riders including Barry Sheene didn’t ride there. There was a lot less of a division between GP riders and other riders than there is today and a lot of GP racing took place on road courses.
It was Agostini along with Read and Gould that started the boycott in 1972. After losing GP status the ACU and the TT organiser simply started their own race series that became F1, F2 & F3, the later two morphed into supersport 600 and 400 whilst F1 rules were also used for endurance racing. F1 rules stated the bike had to be based on a road going bike but in reality they were nearly all hand built prototypes so F1 became a victim of it's own sucess in some respects, the RVF750 was supposedly based on the VF750S! (no knock knock jokes please!)
Seeing an opportunity for cheaper four stroke racing WSBK with a much more restrictive rule book started and F1 eventually died out.
Mr Tidy said:
Shame about Rossi's reluctance - proper Italian legends like Ago did the TT and circuits!
Are you saying Rossi is not a 'proper legend'?I'm not aware of any MotoGP riders risking their lives at the TT for a relative pittance, but happy to be corrected if some of them did?
Rob 131 Sport said:
five50 said:
Was Rob Mcelnea the last guy doing gp’s and also the TT?
No. Unless you count Foggy who was very successful at selected GP’s, it was Roger Burnett who won the Senior TT in 1986 and then went on to having a full time factory ride in GP’s with Rothmans Honda. paulguitar said:
Mr Tidy said:
Shame about Rossi's reluctance - proper Italian legends like Ago did the TT and circuits!
Are you saying Rossi is not a 'proper legend'?I'm not aware of any MotoGP riders risking their lives at the TT for a relative pittance, but happy to be corrected if some of them did?
paulguitar said:
Mr Tidy said:
Shame about Rossi's reluctance - proper Italian legends like Ago did the TT and circuits!
Are you saying Rossi is not a 'proper legend'?I'm not aware of any MotoGP riders risking their lives at the TT for a relative pittance, but happy to be corrected if some of them did?
GP riders and Road racers are legends in their own right. Daft comment from Mr Tidy if he was trying to discredit someone like Rossi for not risking life and limb to do the TT.
DrEMa said:
Sidecar Man said:
Best finish is 5th with 113.25mph average
Fantastic, love the trophy cabinet too. Hope you have many successful years ahead of you.
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Tango13 said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
five50 said:
Was Rob Mcelnea the last guy doing gp’s and also the TT?
No. Unless you count Foggy who was very successful at selected GP’s, it was Roger Burnett who won the Senior TT in 1986 and then went on to having a full time factory ride in GP’s with Rothmans Honda. Tango13 said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
five50 said:
Was Rob Mcelnea the last guy doing gp’s and also the TT?
No. Unless you count Foggy who was very successful at selected GP’s, it was Roger Burnett who won the Senior TT in 1986 and then went on to having a full time factory ride in GP’s with Rothmans Honda. Looking at the Milwaukee senior big bikes 1000cc winning lap time it was sun 130mph and then the rest were some way down from that too.
Isn’t the seniors lap record 135mph? If so was it the windy conditions that caused the times to be slower or as one of the commentators stated the big bikes going flat out down have the fuel tank capacity to run the distance/would run out of fuel?
Also purely for fun - what MPG do these big bikes get when on the 6 lap at flat out race speed?
Isn’t the seniors lap record 135mph? If so was it the windy conditions that caused the times to be slower or as one of the commentators stated the big bikes going flat out down have the fuel tank capacity to run the distance/would run out of fuel?
Also purely for fun - what MPG do these big bikes get when on the 6 lap at flat out race speed?
Welshbeef said:
Looking at the Milwaukee senior big bikes 1000cc winning lap time it was sun 130mph and then the rest were some way down from that too.
Isn’t the seniors lap record 135mph? If so was it the windy conditions that caused the times to be slower or as one of the commentators stated the big bikes going flat out down have the fuel tank capacity to run the distance/would run out of fuel?
Also purely for fun - what MPG do these big bikes get when on the 6 lap at flat out race speed?
Yes the slow times are down to the wind. It was really windy on the mountain. I saw seagulls going backwards.Isn’t the seniors lap record 135mph? If so was it the windy conditions that caused the times to be slower or as one of the commentators stated the big bikes going flat out down have the fuel tank capacity to run the distance/would run out of fuel?
Also purely for fun - what MPG do these big bikes get when on the 6 lap at flat out race speed?
Someone worked out the MPG at 14. I have no idea how accurate that is
Alex@POD said:
Welshbeef said:
Also purely for fun - what MPG do these big bikes get when on the 6 lap at flat out race speed?
The superbikes have a 24l fuel tank and risk running out of fuel after 75 miles or so. Not sure what that works out to, but it's not a lot!Davetheraver said:
Yes the slow times are down to the wind. It was really windy on the mountain. I saw seagulls going backwards.
Someone worked out the MPG at 14. I have no idea how accurate that is
Apparently on one lap Hickman's rear wheel covered ~38.7 miles and his front wheel covered ~35.7 miles. The course is 37.7 miles long...Someone worked out the MPG at 14. I have no idea how accurate that is
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