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KurtFlew

405 posts

54 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Jimmm said:
Apparently on one lap Hickman's rear wheel covered ~38.7 miles and his front wheel covered ~35.7 miles. The course is 37.7 miles long...
Yeh one of Dave Hewson's YouTube videos he was going through the data logger on his s1k and it says he covered 38.2 miles in one lap, explains it's because of the wheel spin round the course. So cool

Sidecar Man

590 posts

62 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Jimmm said:
Apparently on one lap Hickman's rear wheel covered ~38.7 miles and his front wheel covered ~35.7 miles. The course is 37.7 miles long...
Lads behind us had to lean the bike off under half throttle to try and save some fuel. As they ran out after 1 3/4 Laps

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Are you not allowed to fit bigger tanks to totally avoid running out of fuel and permitting banzai runs every lap?


PorkInsider

5,900 posts

142 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Sidecar Man said:
Jimmm said:
Apparently on one lap Hickman's rear wheel covered ~38.7 miles and his front wheel covered ~35.7 miles. The course is 37.7 miles long...
Lads behind us had to lean the bike off under half throttle to try and save some fuel. As they ran out after 1 3/4 Laps
12.5mpg then.

1.75 laps x 37.73 miles / 24 litres x 4.546 (litres per gallon)

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Never done (except once on a pissing wet freezing M5) but running out of fuel or having a running issue is bloody dangerous as it prevents the bike handling properly. I think Hutchy ended up on a pavement after a low fuel related hiccup a few years back and Mcguinness and Martin both had to bale out due to running issues on their Fireblades.

PorkInsider

5,900 posts

142 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Welshbeef said:
Are you not allowed to fit bigger tanks to totally avoid running out of fuel and permitting banzai runs every lap?
No.

Regs here. Fill your boots...

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/iom-tt-races-20...

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Hicky ran out in practice week , had to push it back to the pits , nearly made it .

Team had to lean the engine off a bit to conserve a bit more fuel , they are on the edge with the capacity of fuel they are allowed.

Tango13

8,469 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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KurtFlew said:
Jimmm said:
Apparently on one lap Hickman's rear wheel covered ~38.7 miles and his front wheel covered ~35.7 miles. The course is 37.7 miles long...
Yeh one of Dave Hewson's YouTube videos he was going through the data logger on his s1k and it says he covered 38.2 miles in one lap, explains it's because of the wheel spin round the course. So cool
I'd suggest the difference in distances covered is more to do with the variation in the rolling radius of the tyre when the bike is leant over than actual wheel spin.

Pflanzgarten

3,995 posts

26 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Welshbeef said:
Are you not allowed to fit bigger tanks to totally avoid running out of fuel and permitting banzai runs every lap?
That makes about as much sense as asking if they are allowed a bit bigger engine so they can go a bit faster.

Sidecar Man

590 posts

62 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Tango13 said:
I'd suggest the difference in distances covered is more to do with the variation in the rolling radius of the tyre when the bike is leant over than actual wheel spin.
When you flat out over some sections you can hear it spinning up as the back wheels off the floor with it being so bumpy. Hence the problems with the tyres delamination. It spins, grips ,spins , grips and put excessive heat into the tyre.

wpa1975

8,908 posts

115 months

gareth_r

5,761 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Pflanzgarten said:
Welshbeef said:
Are you not allowed to fit bigger tanks to totally avoid running out of fuel and permitting banzai runs every lap?
That makes about as much sense as asking if they are allowed a bit bigger engine so they can go a bit faster.
Only because the current rules limit the fuel load.

In the "old days" it was common for Manx Norton riders, for example, to use small 3-gallon tanks on short circuits and 5-gallon tanks at the TT.

Short circuit - https://tabclassics.com/products/fuel-tanks/norton...

TT - https://tabclassics.com/products/fuel-tanks/norton...

Sidecar Man

590 posts

62 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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gareth_r said:
Only because the current rules limit the fuel load.

In the "old days" it was common for Manx Norton riders, for example, to use small 3-gallon tanks on short circuits and 5-gallon tanks at the TT.

Short circuit - https://tabclassics.com/products/fuel-tanks/norton...

TT - https://tabclassics.com/products/fuel-tanks/norton...
We Run 8 gallon tank on the sidecar.

Gladers01

599 posts

49 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Tango13 said:
KurtFlew said:
Jimmm said:
Apparently on one lap Hickman's rear wheel covered ~38.7 miles and his front wheel covered ~35.7 miles. The course is 37.7 miles long...
Yeh one of Dave Hewson's YouTube videos he was going through the data logger on his s1k and it says he covered 38.2 miles in one lap, explains it's because of the wheel spin round the course. So cool
I'd suggest the difference in distances covered is more to do with the variation in the rolling radius of the tyre when the bike is leant over than actual wheel spin.
Do those figures recorded by the data logger mean that the front wheel has been off the deck for approximately 2 miles during the course of one lap or is there another reason for the fewer miles not being recorded? yikes

Sidecar Man

590 posts

62 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Gladers01 said:
Do those figures recorded by the data logger mean that the front wheel has been off the deck for approximately 2 miles during the course of one lap or is there another reason for the fewer miles not being recorded? yikes
Nope that's what it means but Pete was doing a fair bit of show boating on lap wheeling a fair bit.

poo at Paul's

14,174 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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What’s going on with the Covid on the island?
I know 6 people who went this year, 3 marshalling, 3 just lads on bikes (not together) and 5 have come back and tested positive for Covid! Including all three marshalls.

Have they just been unlucky, or was it rife over there?

Davetheraver

1,337 posts

203 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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poo at Paul's said:
What’s going on with the Covid on the island?
I know 6 people who went this year, 3 marshalling, 3 just lads on bikes (not together) and 5 have come back and tested positive for Covid! Including all three marshalls.

Have they just been unlucky, or was it rife over there?
It’s everywhere over here since TT.

Not surprising. Loads of visitors and loads of locals off work socialising more than usual. All piling into busses, planes, boats, pubs, restaurants, theatres etc


Edited by Davetheraver on Wednesday 15th June 04:13

hepy

1,272 posts

141 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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wormus said:
rallycross said:
Is there more racing or is it finished for the year?
Last day was supposed to be Friday of race week, but spilled into Sat because of weather. So yes, it's all over for another year. I'll be back over for Southern 100 and MGP though.
If you have never seen it, the Southern 100 is worth a watch. Similar track, some of the same racers but a mass start. Shorter lap, but still incredibly exciting.

The BBC usually has some Irish Road racing on the Iplayer, try https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00kj9xh/bi... .

IanUAE

2,930 posts

165 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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gareth_r said:
Pflanzgarten said:
Welshbeef said:
Are you not allowed to fit bigger tanks to totally avoid running out of fuel and permitting banzai runs every lap?
That makes about as much sense as asking if they are allowed a bit bigger engine so they can go a bit faster.
Only because the current rules limit the fuel load.

In the "old days" it was common for Manx Norton riders, for example, to use small 3-gallon tanks on short circuits and 5-gallon tanks at the TT.

Short circuit - https://tabclassics.com/products/fuel-tanks/norton...

TT - https://tabclassics.com/products/fuel-tanks/norton...
I think a team once fitted (McAdoo Racing?) a larger capacity fuel tank for their Superbike that allowed them to complete 3 laps rather than 2, thus saving one pit stop.

DarthtaterM16

917 posts

103 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Anybody seen the clips of Hickman at Ballagery?
There was one on instagram from the hedge on the outside just as he tips in that I can’t find again but it’s truly frightening.
Really made me think what these guys are actually doing. Amazing.